(2018-2021)
Thanks to the brilliant specialists in this forum:
⇗diderius6, ⇗Mov AX, 0xDEAD, ⇗Fernando, ⇗daniel_k.
⇗gordo999, ⇗ruthan, ⇗infuscomus, ⇗Gelip, ⇗XPLives, ⇗George King, ⇗skullteria, and few others.
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| #1 | deSSy2724 | EDIT by Fernando: The most important information about this topic have been assorted ¶ >here< by Mov AX, 0xDEAD! Can someone answer me some questions because I cant find clear answers to some of my questions (different statements from the same or different sources/sites/forums) and for some others things/questions, im not 100% sure:
Here is the thing and why so many questions..... I want to build a SINGLE gaming PC for all my older and newer games with both Win XP 32bit and Win 10 64bit (dual boot) but the problem is, if I build a PC out of parts from 2011/12 (Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge...) or so it would be harder (maybe even more expensive) to find parts and maybe the CPU from 2011 would not be that good for games from 2017-19 which means, I should buy parts which would be as newest and strongest/advanced as possible for new/upcomming games but at the same time to keep the legacy support for my older games (games designed for 98/2000/XP) and we all know that Win 7/8/10 and even 64bit OSes in general have some or in some cases many compatibility issues/obstacles with older games. I mean, there are many osbstacles with AHCI/IDE and SATA drivers, 32bit/64bit, MBR/GPT.... so, im not quite sure what to do. It would be the best to build a PC based on the Skylake, Kaby Lake, Coffe Lake etc. but is it actually possible to make it happen without any issues on Windows XP SP3 32bit? ![]() Would scenario 1 be possible? EDIT1 by Fernando: Reformatted to save space EDIT2 by Fernando: Thread title customized |
| #2 | Lost_N_BIOS | ⇗ @Fernando would be best to answer many of these, I'm sure you'll see him pop in when he has a chance I can tell you #2 - MBR and SSD is fine, I use this all the time for many years. #3 - XP from USB, I am not sure about, probably not easily unless you can find ready image/ISO, but yes it can be installed from CD/DVD burned discs, if blueray burn same way as DVD drive them I'm sure your good to go with that. #4 - Yes, you can create multiple 2.2TB or less Primary partitions with MBR, SP2 may need to be installed before they are all visible, I am not sure on that one. Third party partition tools may be required to setup the additional partitions, also am not certain on that either (guess I should quit partially answering )Here's some info that may help answer some of that for you too ⇗ http://www.questions4steveb.co.uk/html/S...with-Windows-XP I think your scenario two would be easier to use and setup, but you'd have to figure out how to edit the boot menu of Win10 to allow multi-disk boot choice at startup, or use some other third party bootloader. |
| #3 | Fernando | ⇗ @deSSy2724: Welcome to the Win-RAID Forum! Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1You can install Windows XP and Windows 10 onto the same HDD/SSD, if you install them both in LEGACY mode by using the MBR partition scheme. Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1Yes! Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1Due to the missing/not compatible USB drivers it is not a good idea to install Windows XP onto a modern PC by booting off an USB Flash Drive. Booting off an Optical Drive is the much better option. Your question #4 has already been answered by Lost_N_BIOS, an answer to your question #5 requires XP installation experiences with all available chipset/CPU generations, which I don't have. Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1Not the chipset, but just the HardwareIDs of the on-board SATA AHCI or RAID Controller is important. When you want to slipstream a specific AHCI/RAID driver into a Windows XP Image (don't integrate more than 1 textmode driver!), you should choose an XP compatible textmode driver, which definitively supports your specific on-board SATA AHCI/RAID Controller. If the related AHCI/RAID driver supports several different SATA Controllers, you should make sure, that just the matching SATA AHCI/RAID Controller has been highlighted during the textmode driver integration procedure. Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1Regarding the XP installation onto a modern Intel chipset PC running in AHCI or RAID mode I recommend to read the start post of ⇗ >this< thread. Regards Dieter (alias Fernando) |
| #4 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Windows XP/2003 32-Bit on Modern Intel Hardware
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| #5 | deSSy2724 | 1. So, basically...... XP
32bit can only be installed to the MBR partition and nothing can change
that BUT with help of 3rd party tools like this one (link below), XP can
read/access other GPT partitions and I should be able to install
programs/games normally to that GPT partitions, right? ⇗ https://www.paragon-software.com/de/tech...nts/gpt-loader/ 2. For slipstreaming, just adding correct hardware IDs for the SATA AHCI controller of my mainboard is enough to install XP 32bit? Wat if my MBO has multiple AHCI controllers from different manufacturers, should I avoid Intels AHCI controller and use the others instead? 3. What is actually the disadvantage if I disable ACPI (desktop PC)? Would my CPU work always with full speed and never downclock when idle (Intels Turbo Clock technology) or what?. Is ACPI disabled system-wide (BIOS) or can it be only disabled for specific OS-es? 4. ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Are you trying to say that this user from this thread has ACPI disabled or what? How did he managed to install XP 32 bit with Coffe Lake MBO/CPU? ⇗ Windows XP 32bit SP3 now working with Z370 motherboard and Coffe Lake CPU |
| #6 | Fernando |
Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #5To avoid a 7b BSOD while starting the XP installation, you should just load/integrate the textmode driver, which matches the AHCI/RAID Controller of the target HDD/SSD (where you want to install the OS). All other storage drivers can be installed later on (once XP is up and running fine). |
| #7 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #5maybe gpt-loader will not works on same drive where xp installed, try replace 2 or 3 sys files from windows 2003 server Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #5if you are sure that win xp already has drivers for you hardware , you can add new ids to TXTSETUP.SIF if not, you need integrade AHCI driver (textmode) to install media (nlite/massdrivers/etc) last driver for intel AHCI is 11.2.0.1006 for 32b and 64b winxp, need add new ids in INF, it works on 100 series(skylake) MB without problem Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #5i have no experience with non acpi kernel, acpi is not disabled, it just not used by OS's kernel EDIT by Fernando: Reformatted to save space |
| #8 | YuriyCN |
Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1Use fix128 for support >4GB RAM on 32-bits OS. ⇗ https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4694409 |
| #9 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | I have finished little experimenting with acpi for running windows xp on 100-series sky/coffe-lake platform. It is possible run acpi kernel but need patch DSDT table. In my case need to block acpi 2.0 syntax from acpi.sys driver. I just put these instruction in a condition "IF OS >= WINDOWS VISTA THEN ...." ToBuffer - unsupported instruction from acpi 2.0 0x07D6 - hardcoded id of Vista This is simple example of replacement, total is 12 new instructions: Zitat
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| #10 | deSSy2724 | Isnt Coffe 300 series? Would
it work with my Fatal1ty Z370 Professional Gaming i7? Im just wondering
if ACPI could work on XP and maybe on Win 98SE. BTW anyway..... when it comes to SATA AHCI, this MBO has actually dual SATA controllers (6x from Intel and 2x from ASMedia), so, that should not make additional obstacles. |
| #11 | zir_blazer | Have you considered virtualization? You can use it as a compatibility layer between new Hardware and old OSes, and unless you are doing something very specific that requires bare metal access, VGA Passthrough is usually enough to get a fully functional Windows VM that feels like bare metal (Could be problematic in WXP, but you can source an old, supported Video Card). Been using Windows that way since December 2013 with a Linux host and QEMU-KVM-VFIO, and used as main VM Windows XP SP3, Windows XP x64 SP2, and now Windows 10. |
| #12 | deSSy2724 | I need XP 32 bit for
legacy/old games and application, thats why I need proper drivers. And
for old win 95-98-ms dos games there are PCI express to PCI adapters....
not sure if that could work and there are tools to
downclock/limit/slower CPUs in win 95/98 for beter compatibility. BUT dual booting XP 32 bit and win 10 64 bit is my main goal with proper drivers, acpi if possible for xp. And dual graphics cards.... gtx 1080/rtx2080/vega/navi GPU (not sure which one exactly would I get) for new advanced software/games and I have a spare radeon rx 260x for XP 32 bit (it has official drivers). Win 98SE and ms dos would be just an additional bonus if possible. |
| #13 | zir_blazer |
Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #12 Seriously, you're better off with virtualization simply because as the emulated platform stuff is old enough (Chipset, IDE Controller, etc), you will always have "proper Drivers" of the harder to support components. The only missing thing is the GPU, which VGA Passthrough already covers well enough. There are also some Motherboards with PCI slots like ⇗ this one. Recall at least seeing a guy with an old PCI Voodoo ⇗ passthroughing it to a VM and playing DOS or W9x games with Glide. Your other option is PCem, or a computer old enough to get things working mostly out of the box. |
| #14 | infuscomus | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD: Would patching like ¶ >this< help to fix an A5 BSOD? If so, can i get some help to patch ACPI? EDIT by Fernando: Fully quoted post replaced by directly addressing (to save space) |
| #15 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #14Yes, this patching fix A5 bsod You need ask for someone to fix your acpi table or learn how to DIY, see attachemnt "before and after" patching is not easy, if you forget return something from method you will get another BSOD, so be accurate Mov AX, 0xDEAD has attached files to this post |
| #16 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ Mov AX, 0xDEAD im Beitrag ¶ #15Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #14Yes, this patching fix A5 bsod could you patch my ACPI Table for me please? you seem to know what you're doing and I don't want to break things, so I'd appreciate it. is the ACPI Table stored in UEFI? my motherboard is an ASRock AB350 Fatal1ty Gaming K4 - did you need UEFI file? |
| #17 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #16 sorry, i don't do that. Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #16 yes, dsdt binary table stored in uefi, short "how-to find,extract and decompile acpi tables" is ⇗ here |
| #18 | deSSy2724 | So, we need to patch all the mentioned instructions or some of them (depending on the configuration), is that right? Can we do it both after and before win XP installation and could this solutuin or similar work with win 98SE? |
| #19 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Do you think it is possible, just do make a small hack to acpi.sys in XP SP3, so that it does not worry about "wrong" acpi 2.0 syntax from Bios? have a nice day Dietmar PS: Windows XP implements ACPI 1.0b and section 8.3 of Acpi 2.0 specification ⇗ https://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files...rces/ACPI_2.pdf Hyperthreading works with ACPI 1.0b version Hyperthreading starts with XP SP1. |
| #20 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #19 probably yes, but this will be not simple hack 1) code example from my gigabyte bios:
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| #21 | diderius6 | Hi all, now I understand, how to fix Acpi DSDT table for to overcome 0xA BSOD in XP. Extract body of Raw section under GUID: C118F50D-391D-45F4-B3D3-11BC931AA56D in Bios, recompile with iasl -d (newest version), mod, compile and flash back to the same raw body. A lot of work as I see now, changes need to be done in about 600 places as to me Beyond Compare shows. And also to fix the not working USB from Intel from chipset z170 up to z390 via Bios mod. This means: In my next holidays in about a month I will give it a try, how to make this for other Bios also, have a nice day Dietmar |
| #22 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #21 1)my example is not best method, change only parts with reserved method/keywords "_ini", "_crs", "_sta", "_srs", "_hid", "_cid", "_adr", "_uid", "_reg", "_psw", "_ejd", "_prw", "_pr0", "_pr1", "_pr2", "_psc", "_ps0", "_ps1", "_ps2", "_ps3", "_off", "_on_", "_tmp", "_ej0", "_ej1", "_ej2", "_ej3", "_ej4", "_dis", "_wak", "_lck", "_pts", "_si_", "_sst", "_ddn", "_prt", "_bbn", "_s0_", "_s1_", "_s2_", "_s3_", "_rmv", "_irc", "_rmv", "_sun", "_al0-_al9", "_psl", "_rmv", 2) ignore _DSM, windows xp doesnt use it |
| #23 | Pill Monster | ⇗ @deSSy2724: Hi, just to clear up a couple of things.... Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1Both partitions can reside on same drive as long as it is MBR & motherboard supports legacy boot mode. Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1XP supports GPT also but for data only. Meaning your XP boot drive has to be MBR but you could have a couple of GPT drives as well for games, movies, porn...:P etc if you wanted. No issues with SSD & MBR. Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1Absolutely. I have installed XP many times on various machines from USB flash drives, even back in early 2000's. WinFlash was used to make the USB install image. (I prefer Rufus these days). The caveat here is the flash drive usually must be plugged into a native AMD/Intel USB 2.0 port (meaning no 3rd party controllers such as ASmedia/JMicron etc unless you want to slipstream). Early editions of XP discs didn't contain USB drivers for some vendors which contributed to the "XP doesn't support USB boot" stories... Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #12.2TB is more a limit of 512b sectors combined with 32bit hardware. However, plug in an 4K Advanced Format drive that 32bit 2.2TB limitation will turn into a 32bit 16TB limitation. Check your I/O controller specs if in doubt. Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1Source material which contains the words "officially" or "by default" can usually be ignored. That includes Wikipedia and fair bit of Microsoft's own doco..... Case in point, below: ⇗ ![]() ⇗ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...ows-and-gpt-faq ^I had to chuckle....because not 3 hours ago I did exactly this for a client. I cloned an offline HP GPT drive containing bad sectors onto a new hard drive, then booted off the cloned drive. :D Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1Whatever the chipset maker supports, aka Intel, AMD, ASUS, Gigabyte, Asmedia, Renasonce, Realtek, and the like. As mentioned earlier "officially" can usually be ignored.. Companies such as HP, Dell, Lenovo, Fujitsu etc are all OEM's which means they can provide drivers for the originally installed OS only. Going to HP for drivers is akin to obtaining drivers from Windows Update - the last place end users should be looking for drivers. :) Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #1The Northbridge devices are the same across all AMD boards, or all Intel boartds with same chipset, however the Southbridge can have different hardware which is vendoe specific, by vendor I mean ASUS/MSI/GA.... Eg, Gigabyte MB with 666 Special Quad SLI (made up platform) may have a Jmicron SATA controller while Asus version has Asmedia. Best to check specs.. Edit by Fernando: Fully quoted post replaced by directly addressing to the thread opener (to save space) |
| #24 | zir_blazer |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #19If I recall correctly, Windows XP supports a hybrid halfway between ACPI 1.0b and 2.0 (Or was 1.0b with some 2.0 features?). Recall seeing some old PowerPoint presentation about ACPI covering that. Zitat von ⇗ Pill Monster im Beitrag ¶ #23Only Windows XP x64 supports GPT, for data only as you said. However, standard WXP 32 Bits is MBR only. |
| #25 | diderius6 | Hi all, does anybody have a motherboard from Asrock with z170 (or z270, z370) chipset, where XP SP3 can be installed with ACPI support at once? In this case, hyperthreading should work also. And it would be a nice base for a step by step test, which device on Asrock motherboard is not compatible with the acpi.sys driver from XP Dietmar PS:⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD You had the idea, to test a very early Bios on those Z170 boards. Do you found one, where ACPI is possible for XP without any modd? I just find, that with the checked version of acpi.sys from XP you can start a windbg session. Hard job, but via this way you can repair step by step the Bios DSDT table. After long search I found the whole Checked Version of XP SP3, containing also the wished acpi.sys checked version. Now fun can start.. ⇗ https://archive.org/download/somewinxpdownloads The full symbols for windbg are also there. |
| #26 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #25 checked version helps for reversing, it still usual version and no support acpi2.0+ syntax |
| #27 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD This is clear for me. I only want to have a tool, with which I can see, what is going on via ACPI in XP. And this is, what I have been looking for. With Windbg you can now debug direct ACPI: ⇗ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...ging-extensions And, have you ever had an XP SP3 on a z170 board, where ACPI works without any mod? This would be very helpfull to understand, which component of the board with BSOD 0xA is faulty in DSDT table, Dietmar |
| #28 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #27 I have gigabyte h110m hd2 board, first version bios (F1) doesnt use acpi2.0 commands in critical for winxp parts of dsdt table. next versions (f20 for kabylake support) start using new syntax, i never had about special winxp compatible bioses. I see that moving blocks to expression "if os >=vista do {....}" solve problem 0xa5 with any bios |
| #29 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #27 there no magic, acpi.sys doesnt know nothing about new acpi commands and when it found it at time of parsing, it generate 0x000000A5 error with 4 subcodes (errcode, adress, global code error from ntstatus.h, method where parser found problem) in my case was (0x03,adr,0xC0140001 ,_INI) |
| #30 | XPLives |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #21 How about a simpler quicker fix for acpi.sys. Can you modify the 2K, XP, and 2K3 acpi.sys files to just do a proper shutdown only? Currently NO ACPI install method does not do an automatic shutdown. It must be a manual power down to turn the system off. The ACPI BIOS fix may take you some extra time as you said to analyze a working tutorial. But a shutdown acpi.sys fix for NT5.X OS would be handy to have. Restarting the computer is not an issue. Standby should not work or be present. I haven't tested hibernate but I assume this might not require ACPI since it seems to save an image to the hard disk of equal size to the visible memory installed and then you can power the system off and when the system is rebooted it will reload the entire image back so I think hibernate is not affected. I am unsure about the Intel Speed Step as I lock down my CPU Core Ratio in the BIOS so I am unaware if NO ACPI affects this feature. Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #21 Can you explain the Intel USB fix? Are you saying you can make the Intel USB 3.0 xHCI XP driver from scratch? If so then take a longer holiday break to complete it. ![]() |
| #31 | XPLives | >>Hi all, does anybody have a motherboard from Asrock with z170 (or z270, z370) chipset, where XP SP3 can be installed with ACPI support at once? I am not aware of any.<< Maybe going back to Z87/Z97 Asrock motherboard you can compare with Z170 what changed in the BIOS that broke XP ACPI compatibility? There also exists DDR3 Z170 Motherboards which SkyLake supports DD3L and PCI slots before full DDR4 support required for Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake, -> Cannon Lake+ Compare the Z87/Z97 Fatal1ty Professional with the Z170 Fatal1ty Gaming i7 (Fernando and I have this same MB). This is the first motherboard which I did all original XP testing for SkyLake and was successful but using the no ACPI method. This is also where the USB 2.0 eHCI was officially removed and causing the start of the USB 2.0 compatibility issues so I had to come up with workarounds which I later put into the guide. ⇗ [Guide] How to install Windows XP OS on Modern Hardware - Z170 Z270 SkyLake Kaby Lake I will be testing my older Z87 MB that I bought used to do some testing with XP and USB 2.0 eHCI ports. I am repairing / troubleshooting a Z68 MB at the moment. |
| #32 | diderius6 | Hi ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD "I have gigabyte h110m hd2 board, first version bios (F1) doesnt use acpi2.0 commands in critical for winxp parts of dsdt table." This I understand and also your nice idea to keep acpi2.0 commands away from acpi.sys of XP and give full Acpi support to higher OS. But I do not know, how to do the same for an other Bios, for example to my Asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 Bios. How do you know, where and how to make this about 600 changes in DSDT table? Did you copy the DSDT table from Bios F1 to Bios F20? This would be interesting, if BSOD for Acpi is gone then. So I come to another idea. The Bios gigabyte h110m hd2 board, first version bios (F1) gives no BSOD 0xA5. May be, there are only one or two devices on this motherboard, which gives this BSOD with next Bios f20. And this can be tested, just to switch them off in Bios, if possible. And the reason for this BSOD can be found via windbg and checked version of acpi.sys. Your BSOD happens because of method _INI. Have you tested, if this is the only method, which causes Acpi BSOD? I know from acpi "compatible" Bios for XP, that in log file of acpi there have been other errors reported too, but they do nothing bad to XP, Dietmar |
| #33 | Fernando |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #25As you can see in my signature, my main PC has an ASRock Z170 chipset mainboard. Several months ago I tried to get Windows XP installed onto it by booting off the XP SP3 CD and finally succeeded without having customized the XP image regarding ACPI. All I did was hitting F5 and/or F7 during the textmode part of the XP installation and altering the ACPI settings there. Due to the fact, that I could not use my USB connected input devices, I stopped my tests. |
| #34 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #32 - acpi code in dsdt table is independ of enabled/disabled device, it is static and maded at time of creation bios - i have no tested other methods because i isolate ALL new code (exception _dsm), my "own" overkill way and i do not recommend it |
| #35 | diderius6 | Hi all, I just find this: ⇗ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...cpi/winacpi-osi This is really nice: Acpi can decide for itself, which version of Acpi it want to use in building DSDT table in Bios, just chose XP ("Windows 2001"). This is the way, Bios manufacturer use it. Waaoh, this looks like a Bios hack and may be a fake copy can be handed over direct to HKLM\HARDWARE\ACPI\DSDT\842A1\842A1P07\00000004\00000000hex copy in registry from Bios in XP, without any Bios mod Dietmar |
| #36 | diderius6 | Here comes the complete list of opcodes, used bei ACPI 2.0 in DSDT table:ACPI Type 2 Opcodes Some of them are not in ACPI 1, for example ConcatenateResTemplate, but seems to work also with XP. You can overcome in BIOS with the nice idea from ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Dietmar EDIT by Fernando: The list has been put into a "spoiler" (to save space) |
| #37 | diderius6 | Here the same for ACPI 1 (all known by XP in BIOS DSDT table):ASL Statement Description EDIT by Fernando: The list has been put into a "spoiler" (to save space) |
| #38 | diderius6 | And some opcodes are renamed from ACPI "old 2" > ACPI 2 Buff > ToBuffer
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| #39 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #38Buff > ToBuffer there no renames, ToBuffer and other are new acpi 2.0 opcodes, check ⇗ amlcode.h, winxp accept only 1.0b opcodes |
| #40 | diderius6 | Hi, yes, this are new and first arrive in ACPI 2. BUT in the Bios F1 of your motherboard from Gigabyte they are all present (for example HexString) and give no BSOD x0A5 there as you told us, Dietmar |
| #41 | diderius6 | The only opcode, which has to be disabled in Bios DSDT table for XP seems to be CopyObject Dietmar |
| #42 | diderius6 | Hi, in DSDT table from Bios 410 for Asus z170-k I found If (_OSI ("Windows 2001 SP2"))I think, this Bios looks, if XP SP2 is to be installed and loads then only ACPI code, compatible for XP SP2 (XP SP3 also I think), have a nice evening Dietmar EDIT: By passing the string "Windows 2001" into the _OSI method, the BIOS indicates to the operating system that the BIOS is aware of and compatible with the ACPI implementation and feature set of Windows XP. Windows XP will then reject all I/O reads or writes from BIOS ASL code to addresses on the blocked ports list and generate an error in the system event log. Ok, this makes sense for the methode from @Mov AX, 0xDEAD. When XP cant stop I/O reads or writes from crazy BIOS even it told to XP Store (0x07D2, OSYS), then you have to block all this AHCI 2.0 question from Bios in Bios itself. The underlying reason may be, that newer Bios can not identify, that the OS is XP. |
| #43 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #40 because these commands belong to some custom methods/submethods (winxp do not call their) after version F1 these method started using in _INI too as subcall (see _INI of devices NVM1,NVM2,NVM3, at end they call subproc ARPC(), arpc() use new ToHexString and ToInteger) ACPI virtual machine in windows is interpretator, it not check all code, only needed parts, we can hide nuclear bomb inside acpi code and windows will never find it )) |
| #44 | diderius6 | Hi all, today I get the mainbord gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H very similar to gigabyte GA-H110M-HD2 My mainboard has no PCI slot, no intern parallel port header and 2 USB 2.0 internal more. All other is the same. I fetch the whole content from the 25B64CSIG Bios chip on this board with EEprom flasher CH341A. The Bios chip is soldered and it takes 3 tries to connect it direct ON the board. In CH341A - USB Programmer 1.30 the Bios chip gets name GD25Q64. The yellow LED on CH341A blinks only, when you read from the chip, NOT when it is only connected. I read it 3 times and verify, all ok. Now I make a try to flash the Bios back to version F1, which is only possible through hardware flash. I hope, that the UEFI tool is right, that all Bios information starts from 200000h because I do not want to lose my MAC adress etc. No I am looking about the ME region ⇗ Intel Management Engine: Drivers, Firmware & System Tools Dietmar Edit: The Bios on this board is latest version F25. When I try to reflash to F1, compi told: "Bios is outdatet, update to newest version" so the Website from Gigabyte tells truth, brrr. Flash back to Vers. F1 only possible with CH341A. |
| #45 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Hi, the Bios from the Gigabyte board seems to be encoded. How is it possible, to write the DSDT table back to such a Bios? Have a nice evening Dietmar PS: The Uefitool can extract and decode the DSDT table, but nothing insert or delete there. Only UEFITool_0.25.1_win32 can write DSDT Table back in raw mode. Now I have Bios original from my mainboard ver. F25 with the DSDT table from Biosversion F1 inserted. Now cross finger, if Compi will boot again. In other case I have to flash the whole original Bios back. |
| #46 | diderius6 | Hm, I succeed to flash the Bios Chip F25 with DSDT table from F1 Version Bios. Compi starts, but shows BSOD 0xA5 like before with F25 Bios?! So, this is strange for me Dietmar EDIT: I reread again with the EEprom writer the Bios chip. Uefitool shows, that indeed now DSDT table from Bios ver. F1 was build in. Then I flashed the Biosship with whole F1 Bios from Gigabyte webside. Now motherboard does start, but no post, nothing on screen. Ok, I am going to flash original Bios file back and tomorrow I try the DSDT2 file from @Mov AX, 0xDEAD. |
| #47 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #45 Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #45Hi, Do not do that, acpi tables hardcoded to RAM/IO/DEVICE ranges depend on bios revision F1 is old release for skylake F25 is latest release wiith new GUI and suport for kabylake you need decompile/change/compile/flash f25 version of tables main problem is decompiling with external links with various number of arguments, i made custom file for my f24 bios:
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| #48 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD, thank you very much for help. Yes, I see this warning message from compiler iasl after compiling DSDL table from my F25 Bios. I just flash my original F25 back to the board and is awake to life again:). Interesting thing: When I compare whole Bios content before flashing and after compi started, I noticed, that the compi changes data in Bios chip, about 133000 Byte. This I never noticed before. So this just means, the Bios is open field for compi, brrr.. Dietmar |
| #49 | diderius6 | First I do binary compare of my DSDT.raw table with the DSDT.raw table from F25 from Gigabyte website. They are 100% identic. Now fun starts, I mod my DSDT.dsl table with copy and past left to right side via Beyond compare and DSDT2.dsl from ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Dietmar |
| #50 | diderius6 | 9 compiler errors.. will be a hard search^^ Now I get error message 6088 "Object is not accessible from this scope ^ (WANX)" |
| #51 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | Hi all, Found interesting bug in one device in dsdti table for kabylake+ gigabyte's bioses (in skylake bioses this device not presented), device is IOTR (I/O Trap), it report to windows about claimed I/O adresses, method _CRS() load settings from special memory and report 0xFE adresses (254) starting from 0xFF00. WinXP x32 show claimed region correctly belong to "mothebvoard resource", but show conflict with pci host bridge (and VGA card too) Win7 also show claimed region but no conflicts. I've patched this device to return empty list of resources Local0 = ResourceTemplate () { } return(Local0) and problem is gone |
| #52 | diderius6 | Yessa, after 14 hours work I succeed to compile back my DSDT table with about 600 new entries. What a crazy work, Dietmar |
| #53 | diderius6 | Even I do to 100% 1 by 1 the steps from DSDT2, after flashing the new Bios I get still 0xA5 BSOD. Nice idea, but does not work for me until now Dietmar |
| #54 | diderius6 | Waaoh new day nice day, in next try I succeed to install XP SP3 with full ACPI support on my gigabyte ga-h110m-s2h Bios vers. F25 !!! I forget, that with else you have always to return the value ZERO, when the condition If ((OSYS >= 0x07D6)) is not met, when a value is overgiven, thanks a lot ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Dietmar PS: This was the first time, that I saw the entry ACPI Multiprocessor PC in device manager with new processor skylake, kabylake, coffee lake. Shut down works also⇗ |
| #55 | diderius6 | Hi all, now I try the same for the latest Bios Z37GK63.20 for asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 mainboard. May be, some steps can be automated in correcting DSDT *.dsl file, until now I do all by hand Dietmar Look for the key-words in *.dsl file from DSDT table and put then always the question before each If ((OSYS >= 0x07D6)) and if a value is asked also always answer with Else On the Gigabyte DSDT table you have to do this 66 times. Key words are:
and dont forget for example to copy all from DSDT2 External (P0L6, MethodObj) // 0 Arguments // From external reference file EDIT by Fernando: Text slighly re-formatted (to save space and for better readability) |
| #56 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | ⇗ @diderius6: i think this is not correct if method must return Buffer, Zero is 0 (Integer) correct is: Return (Buffer (One) or maybe Return (ResourceTemplate () p.s maybe acpi.sys tract zero as null buffer, who knows... |
| #57 | diderius6 | Hi ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD, do you noticed any strange behavior of XP, when you overcome a lot of instructions from DSDT with If ((OSYS >= 0x07D6))? And have you tested your nice method on another compi with XP? For me it is also interesting to know, if one can switch between acpi pc and standard pc, for to compare benchmarks without new installing whole xp. I think, when you have an Acpi pc, switching is always possible when you change hal.dll and ntoskrnl.exe (is this enough?) Dietmar |
| #58 | deSSy2724 | Congratulation Dietmar......
can you confirm if Hyper Threading is working and does the OS and other
programs like CPU-Z detect the correct number of threads for your i5
8700K( 6 cores /12 threads) and does Intel Speedstep work (auto
clock/downclock). I think, both of those feautures should be tied to ACPI..... |
| #59 | diderius6 | Hi, for the 1151 platform I have only a Celeron 3900, this has no Hyperthreading. But I think it works. This Bios mod makes a problem I think with the timer. Via changing computer Acpimultiprocessor->Standard PC this is gone, so it really belongs to the modded DSDT table. In the original source code from DSDT table stands at a lot of places Local0 = Buffer (0x02) ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD changed this always against Local0 = ResourceTemplate () Because I do not understand the ASL Syntax I have no idea, what this is doing. And he deleted at a lot of places ADBG (Concatenate... lines for example ADBG (Concatenate ("CNRSs ", ToDecimalString (Timer)))May be this is the reason for the Timer problem, Dietmar |
| #60 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #59 - what is problem with timer ? - adbg is text debug message to COM port/RAM/etc and nothing more we cannot keep this line as is, because ToDecimalString is new command |
| #61 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ deSSy2724 im Beitrag ¶ #58 - intel speedstep work, official method to enable - power saving mode must be ON - i dont have HT cpu so cannot report I found some of power management problem, in ThrotleStop i see cpu is 50-60% of time in C0 power state, task manager cpu utilization is 0%. ThrotleStop also report about 0% time in any power saving states C1,C2,.. state. In win7 power states are normal, 2-6% in C0 and 95% in C7 |
| #62 | diderius6 | Hi ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD, I deleted in DSDT2 from you the device LPTE, because my mainboard does not have. After this crazy 14 hour fight with the compiler I can check, that all other is to 100% identic with your DSDT2 file. When I open the game "Moorhuhn", the wings of the Mill rotate more than 10 times faster than before and no "Moorhuhn" can be seen. The browser firefox vers. 52 is much slower than before. Version 13.0 of firefox works normal. I am happy for help, because I want to mod Bios for other compis too, Dietmar PS: Sound, network, everything works with this ACPI DSDT table. |
| #63 | diderius6 | Hi all, I found out, that with the modded DSDT table in Bios (Acpi) all programs work normal for about 1 second, but then changes behavior. I disabled energy management in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\intelppm setting start to 4 (disabled), but this does not change anything, Dietmar PS: I think, during the mod of the DSDT table we disable something, that is necessary for ACPI to work. |
| #64 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #63 confirm same problem, windows return wrong timer to applications ⇗ i think this can be fixed, just need find proper way |
| #65 | diderius6 | The use of /usepmtimer in boot.ini does not help Dietmar PS: Also not helps Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 EDIT2: I delete in DSDT table from Bios the whole device HPET and flash Bios new. But the time is as wrong as before (negativ values, brr..), nothing changed. XP SP2 does not make use of HPET in Acpi, but XP SP3 does. |
| #66 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | perftimer reset about every 3.5s, i have сhecked FACP table, resolution of pm timer (TMR_VAL_EXT) is 24 bit, i think: - winxp use PM Timer (because this utility show 3.5Mhz) - overflow 24bit is 4 secs, overflow 32bits is 20 mins - winxp read it as 32 bit and doesnt care about high 8 bit (they are zero, this leads to negative result of operation currentime()-previoustime()) in FACP exist interesting bit USE_PLATFORM_CLOCK=1 (OSPM use HPET (if exist) or ACPI PM Timer) |
| #67 | diderius6 | 4.7.3.3 Power Management Timer (PM_TMR)This read-only register returns the current value of the power management timer (PM timer). The FACP table has a flag called TMR_VAL_EXT that an OEM sets to indicate a 32-bit PM timer or reset to indicate a 24-bit PM timer. When the last bit of the timer toggles the TMR_STS bit is set. This register is accessed as 32-bits. This register contains optional features enabled or disabled within the FACP table. If the FACP table indicates that the feature is not supported as a fixed feature, then software treats these bits as ignored. TMR_VAL_EXT A zero indicates TMR_VAL is implemented as a 24-bit value. A one indicates TMR_VAL is implemented as a 32- bit value. The TMR_STS bit is set when the most significant bit of the TMR_VAL toggles. |
| #68 | diderius6 | Indeed is this flag
TMR_VAL_EXT in Bios from my Gigabyte H110m board set to 0 and
interpreted as 32 bit gives crazy results for the clock.Signature "FACP" |
| #69 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | forced do not use pm_timer, now moorhuhn works ): ⇗ ![]() WinXP SP(?) auto uses pm_timer instead RDTSC if found |
| #70 | diderius6 | @ Mov AX, 0xDEAD, oh, this is really nice. How do you reach this? Have a nice day Dietmar |
| #71 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | ...24bit timer is OK on previous chipsets, windows xp has logic to handle it, something wrong on new platform, maybe windows no receive event about handle carry... |
| #72 | diderius6 | Hi, may be something is blocked now in DSDT table, what ACPI from XP needs for the timer. Some instructions from Acpi 2.0 XPSP3 understands also, Dietmar |
| #73 | diderius6 | Hi, the problem may be in USE_PLATFORM_CLOCK 1 - OSPM use HPET (if exist) or ACPI PM Timer This bit is set to 1 on the gigabyte board Bios. In this case, XP is asked for the time of the HPET timer. But no version of XP has a working HPET timer, crazy XP shows HPET in device manager, but does not have, only Vista and higher, even the board has a HPET timer. So, may be to set this value back to 0 can solve the problem. I do not know, where the flags from FACP are stored in Bios, but give it a try to change this single bit from 1 to 0, Dietmar USE_PLATFORM_CLOCK 0 - OSPM may use HPET, ACPI PM Timer or internal Timer USE_PLATFORM_CLOCK 1 - OSPM use HPET or ACPI PM Timer |
| #74 | diderius6 | after crazy search in Bios from Giga board I succeed to change ONE bit in FACP from USE_PLATFORM_CLOCK 1 - OSPM use HPET or ACPI PM Timer to USE_PLATFORM_CLOCK 0 - OSPM may use HPET, ACPI PM Timer or internal Timer as you can see with rw-everything. Now ALL works in ACPI, fun can start for other Bios too Dietmar diderius6 has attached images to this post |
| #75 | diderius6 | How I make this: With Uefi tool search in Bios file GUID 16D0A23E-C09C-407D-A14A-AD058FDD0CA1 PE32 image section extract body search for the flags from rw-everything Acpi FACP in reverse order Flags 0x0003C4A5 ->search A5C40300 with Hexeditor change A5C40300 against A5440300 with hexeditor save and rebuild PE32 image section with Uefitool replace body and flash Bios. I found this Byte change, during disassemble FACP.aml change 1 to 0 in FACP.dsl via Use Platform Timer (V4) : 1 ->Use Platform Timer (V4) : 0 compile with Iasl to FACPmod.aml and compare with FACP.aml Only look with Hexeditor Winhex, what happens to A5C40300, it changes to A5440300. |
| #76 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | i was right, HAL doesnt receive call from acpi.sys about carry handle acpi.sys register ISR/DPC handler for hardware interrupt, check that interrupt was caused carry situation and call hal.dll to increase high 8 bit counter every 4 sec. this works well on virtual winxp (under qemu), but not on real hardware. i want to dig deeper and currently build uart<->rs232 converter to normal kernel windbg debugging instead slow and ugly "intel system debugger" |
| #77 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD do you think, that in the DSDT table the question If ((OSYS >= 0x07D6)) blocks any important information for XP? I understand, that for example XP does not understand for example CreateQWordField, but in ACPI 1.b this can be simulated with CreateDWordField. And in machine language it becomes equal Dietmar |
| #78 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #77 I can run winxp with original DSDT table, it still has bug with timer and Plug-n-Play/Resourse Management subsystem works different. WinXP for main acpi device *PNP0C08* assign only one irq #15 Win7 assign large list #81-#190 (110 irqs !) to same device |
| #79 | diderius6 | In the Bios mod for the Asus z370 Apex X for XP I found FACP with hex values for flags A5 02 03 00. Also A5 02 03 00 for all other Bios vers. for this board. This means, there the platformtimer is always reset zu 0 Dietmar EDIT: On the Bios F1 for the giga m110 board where XP works as you told me, the platformtimer is 1, as you can see via A5 86 03 00. The same in Bios ver. F25. When the second, here 86 is >= 80, the platformtimer is set to 1 and if <80 platformtimer is set to 0. When I flash the Bios F1 to my giga board, compi does not boot at all, may be because of newer rev number of the board. EDIT: In all Bios version for Asus H110M Plus the same flags from FACP are used as for the giga board: A5 86 03 00, means platformtimer is set to 1 there too. EDIT2: In all Bios version for Asus Z170-K the same flags from FACP are used as for the giga board: A5 86 03 00, means platformtimer is set to 1 there also. EDIT3: In Bios ver. 1.0 from asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 FACP flags are A5 C4 03 00, means platformtimer is set to 1. In newest Bios vers. 3.2 for this board FACP flags are A5 40 03 00, means platformtimer is reset to 0. EDIT4: Interesting, if there is a working XP SP3 with Acpi in whole world:)), where the PM_timer works, where in FACP the flag platformtimer is set to 1. |
| #80 | diderius6 | Hi, does anybody here know, where the DSDT table in Bios for Asus Z97-K stays? I cant found, it seems not to be a *.raw file Dietmar EDIT: I found myself: Go to AmiBoardInfo in Bios file with Uefitool, then Compressed section, then PE32 image section, extract body. Then with Winhex editor look for DSDT (ALASKA) entry. This is beginning of Hexblock. The end of Hexblock is at FFFF (end after PINI). This block you copy to DSDT.dat and disassamble it with iasl -d DSDT.dat to DSDT.dsl . |
| #81 | diderius6 | From the critical Acpi2.0 test words I found in DSDT for Asus Z97-K ConcatenateResTemplate (NOT in z97) CreateQWordField (NOT in z97 for 32 bit XP) ToBuffer (NOT in z97) ToDecimalString (NOT in z97) ToHexString (in Method (_WAK) 2 times there in ADBG) ToInteger (only in Method(_DSM), Method(_SDD), Method(STRT) (Timer TPMR??), Method(CRYF) ) ToString (NOT in z97) CopyObject (NOT in z97) |
| #82 | diderius6 | On the giga board I enabled ToInteger in Method(STRT) for XP, because this works also on the Asus z97-k board. Interesting, no BSOD 0xA5 happens! And I set in FACP again the platformtimer to 1. But the PM_timer does not work at all, Dietmar PS: May be, XP does not give BSOD 0xA5 with the critical word from ACPI2.0 ToInteger. |
| #83 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #82 because winxp doesnt parse this method (this method not used in _ini, _crs and other parsed methods) |
| #84 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD, can you please write a list, which method winxp parse? I search a lot, but I can not find any information about that, Dietmar |
| #85 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #84i know only about keywords, some are methods, other are names of devices/reserved names/etc ¶ Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts (2) |
| #86 | diderius6 | Ok, when I delete in DSDT from the giga board Method (RDCA, 5, Serialized) If ((OSYS >= 0x07D6)) before Switch (ToInteger (Arg4)) XP starts normal. But when I delete all If ((OSYS >= 0x07D6)) before any ToInteger ( in Method (_CRS, 0, Serialized) If ((OSYS >= 0x07D6)) stays before Switch (ToInteger (SDS7)) I got BSOD. This I do not understand, because nothing from all on the list for keywords Dietmar |
| #87 | diderius6 | The BSOD came from Method (ARPC, 4, Serialized) ARPC is not listed in the keywords, Dietmar |
| #88 | diderius6 | On the giga board from Acpi 2.0 can be ignored for XP SP3 Method (STRD, 3, Serialized) Method (THDH, 1, Serialized) Method (THDD, 1, Serialized) Method (ADDB, 3, Serialized) Method (TP7D, 6, Serialized) Method (_DDN, 0, NotSerialized) (???) Method (RDCA, 5, Serialized) Method (VMMH, 2, Serialized) Method (TBTD, 1, Serialized) Method (TBTF, 1, Serialized) Method (GUAM, 1, Serialized) Method (NTFY, 1, Serialized) Method (WIST, 0, Serialized) Method (WGST, 0, Serialized) Method (IICB, 2, Serialized) Method (STRT, 3, Serialized) Method (GRID, 1, Serialized) Method (CDEP, 1, Serialized) Method (CDEG, 1, Serialized) Method (CRYF, 3, Serialized) Method (TPTS, 1, Serialized) These are all methods, where no need for If ((OSYS >= 0x07D6)) Dietmar EDIT: Only 23 times If ((OSYS >= 0x07D6)) has to be extra inserted in DSDT table for the giga board for to start XP SP3. EDIT2: Strange is for me, that _CRS and _DDN can also be ignored sometimes. May be it is, because a condition before ACPI 2.0 reserved word is not fullfilled. Or the device int3472 does not exist on this motherboard. |
| #89 | diderius6 | Gives BSOD on the giga board Acpi 2.0 for ToInteger for XP SP3 Method (HCID, 1, Serialized) |
| #90 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #87 you need check where this method called, and this will be _INI Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #89 called from _CID & _HID |
| #91 | diderius6 | Hi, interesting question, if it is possible to translate for example ToInteger (in one block) into language from Acpi 1.b, using only its vocabulary Dietmar |
| #92 | diderius6 | Ok, lets start fun for Bios modding to have XP Acpi support for the Asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board. I am not good in Bios modding, but much better than a week ago:))! |
| #93 | diderius6 | First I make a list of all the methods, where the reserved word from ACPI 2.0 ToInteger stays in DSDT table of Asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board Bios vers. Z37GK63.20 (newest, with support for 9900k). The 9900k runs under XP SP3 on this board, I have tested. This list is very similar to the giga board: Method (RDCA, 5, Serialized) Method (ARPC, 4, Serialized) patch need Method (VMMH, 2, Serialized) Method (_CRS, 0, Serialized) patch need Method (TBTD, 1, Serialized) Method (TBTF, 1, Serialized) Method (GUAM, 1, Serialized) Method (NTFY, 1, Serialized) Method (TBON, 0, Serialized) is new Method (WIST, 0, Serialized) Method (WGST, 0, Serialized) Method (IICB, 2, Serialized) Method (GRID, 1, Serialized) Method (HCID, 1, Serialized) patch need Method (CDEP, 1, Serialized) Method (CDEG, 1, Serialized) Method (HIDW, 4, Serialized) is new Method (ECRD, 1, Serialized) is new Method (ECWT, 2, Serialized) is new Method (STRT, 3, Serialized) Method (CRYF, 3, Serialized) Method (TPTS, 1, Serialized) I think, patch can be done Dietmar |
| #94 | diderius6 | Methods for the other 7 reserved words from Acpi 2.0 are Method (STRD, 3, Serialized) Method (THDH, 1, Serialized) Method (THDD, 1, Serialized) Method (_INI, 0, NotSerialized) patch need Method (VMMH, 2, Serialized) Method (ADDB, 3, Serialized) Method (TP7D, 6, Serialized) Method (_DDN, 0, NotSerialized) patch need (?) I double checked both lists, thats all:))! |
| #95 | diderius6 | Bios to have full XP Acpi support for the Asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board is ready. But now I am too tired for to test, wait for tomorrow Dietmar |
| #96 | infuscomus | can this ACPI mod work for AMD boards too? |
| #97 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #96 sure |
| #98 | diderius6 | Hi all, I can not update my Bios on asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6. When I try to flash Bios direct on Bios ship with CH341A, program told me: OTG secured..brrr When I try to flash it via Instant Flash I was told: "You select a ROM image with the same version of current BIOS. Please select a newer version of ROM image to flash BIOS." Grrr^^, I think I am the master of compi and not vice versa Dietmar PS: Any idea? The Bios Chip on the Asrock board is MX25L12873F. I have some empty chips of this type here. EDIT: I flash the compi back to Bios vers. 3.1. Then again I try with my modded vers. Bios 3.2. Hm, now compi tells, secure check of Bios fails.. |
| #99 | Lost_N_BIOS | ⇗ @diderius6
- Use CH341A. You mentioned CH341A programmer, do you not have one
now? If you have, put BIOS rom in CH341A, erase, then blank check, then
write/verify If you do not have CH341A, you can use this method - ⇗ [GUIDE] Grub Fix Intel FPT Error 368 - BIOS Lock Asus/Other Mod BIOS Flash |
| #100 | diderius6 | I have CH341A. It shows OTG secured. I even can not READ the Bios and this is my biggest problem, becaus if something went wrong I do not have a valid copy of Bios. When I use FPTw.exe I get Error 367: [FPTw.exe] cannot be run on the current platform. Please contact your vendor. I have XP SP3 32 bit, Dietmar |
| #101 | Lost_N_BIOS | Ohh, this BIOS is soldered on
and not removable like old Asrock, sorry I missed that until now! Do
you have SOIC8 test clip cable? If yes, use that instead of SPI Cables For FPT you need to use a specific version for V11 ME FW, here is that package - ⇗ https://mega.nz/#!GRFHjQyY!OyVZDCdMQmWku...aSvA2vsQd51wxDI Use FPT from inside Flash Programming Tool/Win32 folder, put your modbios into that folder and then from that WIN32 folder run your command prompt (Select that folder, hold shift and press right click, then select run command prompt here) And to flash, following my guide, you will need these variables to unlock in GRUB >> (Never mind, checked and BIOS Lock is disabled by default, SMI Lock not present) Flash away, but make backup first as mentioned in the guide! Use these commands to make there backups (one contains LAN MAC ID, other system details, then ME) FPTw.exe -gbe -d gbe.bin FPTw.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin FPTw.exe -me -d me.bin Then you can flash, using this command FPTw.exe -bios -f modbiosfilenamehere.bin |
| #102 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Lost_N_BIOS I did all, that you tell. Still Error 367: [FPTw.exe] cannot be run on the current platform. Please contact your vendor. Can this version of FPTw.exe work on XP SP3? Dietmar |
| #103 | diderius6 | I have Hexeditor WinHex and I can work with it. In one of the tutorials is written, that the Byte for the security check is at the very beginning. This are my first 1024 (dec) bytes of my modded Bios file FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF5AA5F00F030004000802105A30033100FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF5009C24 214260ADB7B9C4C7FFFFFFFF000000000002FF0F0300FF0101000200FF7F0000FF7F0000FF7F0000FF7F0000FF7F0000FF7F0000 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF000FA000000D400000098000000000000001011000000000FFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF00009000 00010000000000000000000000000000000001000001000000000000000000000000000000000300000100000000000000000000 00000000000001000001000000000000000000000000000000000100000100000000000000000000000000000000010000010000 0000000000000000000000000000010002000000700000010302000064000000000000002A3F0000030000000C00000030000000 0000000000000000440000000F5F000000005400000000000E00000000000000441F0000C117540000000000000000000F5F0000 91F00AFFF7FCFCFC0000000000000000000000000008000000000000001800000000000000000000000000000018000000000000 4700000080030000000000003B0090008000000012000010000064020000000000F4610919000000795555551F0100000307010A 0002000009000F020000FF000F0000C86586000000000000040F000000004000F43294000018000000000000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF00100000128011A095020000 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| #104 | Lost_N_BIOS | Try the DOS version in that
package instead of the win32 file, that will eliminate any possible XP
issue (it may not be compatible with XP, I am not sure, so DOS version
will fix that/ Here is DOS bootable guide I wrote for someone else for another issue, copy into USB again all files from "USB Boot" folder after you run the HP tool - ⇗ <Request> Flagship X470 Gaming 7 Wifi Motherboard BIOS Fix Put DOS FPT and BIOS on root of USB too, then boot to dos and run those same commands except using FPT.exe instead of FPTw.exe The guides do not apply to your BIOS, Asrock changed their protections, here is discussion about that and test fix on post #22 But you have to use FPT, so that needs to be solved first, which I think you are right XP maybe the issue there. For now, lets stick to what I mentioned, and try to get this done in DOS w/ FPT, or setup a quick Win7-Win10 system disk and install Intel ME drivers, then you can use Win32 FPT ⇗ [PROBLEM] Flashing a modded ASRock Z370 MB BIOS (2) |
| #105 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Lost_N_BIOS Just now I am setting up a win7 32bit OS on the asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board. First of all I want to make a full, valid copy of its now original Bios 3.1 version Dietmar |
| #106 | Lost_N_BIOS | That will work, if you can't
get DOS going. I gave two command to make backup for you in first FPT
commands given, this backs up BIOS region and GBE, so you will have
copies of LAN MAC ID and rest of system details usually in padding
region within the BIOS region. Rest you cannot backup easily, and do not need to (FD and ME), well maybe you can also backup ME if settings allow >> FPTw.exe -me -d me.bin I will edit that into previous post too, so all three backup commands are there in one place for you. |
| #107 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Lost_N_BIOS Waaoh, all your steps in "For FPT you need to use a specific version for V11 ME FW, here is that package - ⇗ https://mega.nz/#!GRFHjQyY!OyVZDCdMQmWku...aSvA2vsQd51wxDI Use FPT from inside Flash Programming Tool/Win32 folder, put your modbios into that folder and then from that WIN32 folder run your command prompt (Select that folder, hold shift and press right click, then select run command prompt here) And to flash, following my guide, you will need these variables to unlock in GRUB >> (Never mind, checked and BIOS Lock is disabled by default, SMI Lock not present) Flash away, but make backup first as mentioned in the guide! Use these commands to make there backups (one contains LAN MAC ID, other system details, then ME) FPTw.exe -gbe -d gbe.bin FPTw.exe -bios -d biosreg.bin FPTw.exe -me -d me.bin Then you can flash, using this command FPTw.exe -bios -f modbiosfilenamehere.bin " work at once:))! Bios is now flashed on asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 to my modded XP acpi friendly version! With win7 I can test this, using RW-everything, that indeed I have now vers. 3.2 and my modded DSDT table. Win7 starts with the modded Bios, but install of XP gives BSOD 0xA5 because of missing Acpi compatibilty. Some more handwork for this Bios mod is needed, but this is normal^^, Dietmar |
| #108 | diderius6 | Still get BSOD 0xA5 not Acpi compatibel during install of XP. XP without ACPI starts with this modded Bios. I load the DSDT table here up, one before mod DSDT and one after mod DSDT2 I did all as for the giga board, so at the moment I am out of ideas. May be, that one of the methods here call also _ini for example, different to the giga board Dietmar |
| #109 | Lost_N_BIOS | ![]() Great you got it flashed finally! Sorry I can't help with rest of the issues you guys are way above my skill-set with this XP work you're doing! Keep those (BIOSreg and GbE) backups safe, in case you find later you need to correct/put back in your UUID, serial, or LAN MAC ID |
| #110 | diderius6 | Exact BSOD is0x000000A5 (0x00000011, 0x00000008, 0xF6D23200, 0x20181031)Dietmar |
| #111 | diderius6 | Hi, does somebody know, how many cpu s are supported from XP SP3 professional? 8 cores for sure, but 16 cores too? Dietmar |
| #112 | Lost_N_BIOS | Luckily this is the correct thread to fix that A5 error ![]() |
| #113 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 I am pretty certain it can support as many cores as possible as long as it resides in 1 CPU chip. So if in the future Intel releases a 128 Core / 256 Thread CPU called the i128-128000K CPU socket LGA 2048 it will work with XP. Only limit for XP Pro is Dual CPUs. But I haven't seen any consumer Dual socket CPU motherboards sold that could take advantage of it except workstation. 16 Cores would work for sure if it existed in Cannon Lake. Even some older X79 MB had CPUs with more cores running XP. I think the only issue if ACPI is related to the HyperThreading you are experiencing and as a result you won't have the fake Logical Cores show only the Real Physical ones on the i9-9900K. If a 16 Core / 32 Thread CPU was released today for Coffee Lake you will see the 16 Cores for sure in XP. The only problem would be no applications for XP are written specifically for using that many cores but the OS can still shift some of the processes to each core manually with Affinity so maybe a special program to shift processes to each individual core starting from last core sequence. I've seen the 6 Cores working but the first 2 cores usually has more CPU Usage then the rest. Only way to force all cores to 100% is to use Prime95. So if the Threads are not showing then it is probably an ACPI related issue. Maybe ask the motherboard manufacturer instead to do ACPI v1.0 selectable option in BIOS would be easier. |
| #114 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives Thank you very much for answer. My problem with the Asrock board is now, that I can not flash one Bios version after the other without any risk, as on the nice gigabyte board, because when at one time the board from Asrock says nothing, because of bricked Bios, I have a big problem, because I cant flash the Bios chip direct back via CH341A, even the flasher supports the Bios chip MX25L12873F from the Asrock board, Dietmar |
| #115 | Lost_N_BIOS | ⇗ @diderius6
- Chip can be flashed with CH341A, you only need SOIC8 test clip cable
Or to flash in a modified BIOS that does not have the lock you
mentioned. Please explain that message in exact detail, and I will find in BIOS and see if I can disable that for you or give you command to use in grub to unlock it without a BIOS mod. If I can, you'll only need to be sure to make same edit each time on your future BIOS flashes, so it remains unlocked or change after each future BIOS update via grub if that way works. I'm betting we can fix this, so you don't need to purchase SOIC8 test clip cable, but I'd order one now anyway so you have for future use with your CH341A |
| #116 | diderius6 | The message stand on top of the side from flasher: Secured OTP[img]⇗ And even the yellow LED is blinking you even can not read from the chip Dietmar ⇗ http://www.macronix.com/Lists/Applicatio...ntroduction.pdf |
| #117 | Lost_N_BIOS | ⇗ @diderius6
- Do you have SPI/I2C/TTL mode jumper placed on your programmer,
instead of direct programmer (Default position) Secured OTP area can
only be written to once, you do not need to read or write to that area
anyway. Select the other tab (Main memory) and dump or program BIOS. If it fails to let you that way, then edit options to show only main memory only >> Operate >> Operate Option >> 25\26 Chips >> Programming Range (select Main Memory Only) |
| #118 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Lost_N_BIOS Thank you, I try. I have another good news: I noticed, that on the Asrock board the DSDT table from Bios vers. 3.1 and DSDT table from Bios vers 3.2 are 100% identic. So I can make all valuable tests with vers. 3.1 and in case of emergeny flash back the original Bios vers. 3.2 as long as I can start compi Dietmar |
| #119 | Lost_N_BIOS | I'm sure it will work for you
now, the programmer I mean. As for your BIOS table info, that is good
find for you too, makes things easier ![]() |
| #120 | diderius6 | Hi, for to make things easier for full Acpi support under XP, I patch the calling function and not the called function. Example from the giga board Bios: calling function _INI to Method (_INI, 0, NotSerialized) // _INI: Initialize Dietmar |
| #121 | diderius6 | I still get BSOD 0xA5, no compatible ACPI, on my asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board. May be, there are also other reasons, why this BSOD can happen, even when no reserved word from Acpi 2.0 is offered to XP SP3. I load here the original DSDT file and the modified DSDT2 file up, may be, someone has a look on it Dietmar |
| #122 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Are you doing a fresh XP OS install each time you test or using the old previous install? If not then try a clean install. The ACPI seems finicky about tampering with any settings or using an old install after modding the BIOS. What stage of install does the A5 error occur? During DOS stage, GUI stage, or 1st Windows Desktop OOBE stage? |
| #123 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives, yes, I always make a brandnew install of XP SP3. And the BSOD 0xA5 appears always at the same place, always the same message. This "always the same message" makes me think, that is something different than the reserved Acpi orders from Acpi 2.0. Today I try to patch also the device IOTR, it is in the DSDT list because ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD told about bug for XP in this device. But I do not understand how to patch this, with "I've patched this device to return empty list of resources Local0 = ResourceTemplate () { } return(Local0) and problem is gone" Dietmar |
| #124 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives Interesting idea to see, what other versions of windows, Vista and win7 say to this Bios, before and after mod. win7 has no problem, but tells in device manager, that the ME cant be installed (teedriver.sys driver). I think in win7 is also a list, where you can see, what happens during boot. Via this way I think came Mov AX, 0xDEAD to the idea, that something is wrong with device IOTR, not only in XP. Vista I have not tested. I try to disable device IOTR. Something like this will give happyness:)), meaning full Acpi support for XP on any mainboard Dietmar PS: The BSOD 0xA5 not compatible Bios happens always on first text mode install, after the driver for ntfs is loaded. EDIT: The problem with IOTR (PNP0C02) can also make the problem with the clock on XP! |
| #125 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Okay you are confirming Text Stage 1 or 2? It sounds like Text Stage 1 after Reboot? Text Stage 1: Okay so A5 happens after it copies a few files quickly, Reboots, A5 Error? Or Text Stage 2:Copies a few files, Reboots, Copies hundreds of files could take minutes, Reboots then A5 Error? Okay that is helpful. Then if it cannot be done in BIOS maybe make ACPI driver modified files to ignore it? Did F7 method install successfully for XP? Testing Z87 this weekend to see if ACPI is XP compatible. |
| #126 | diderius6 | The BSOD happens before first reboot. I can install everything from XP, using USB stick or CD without Acpi, hit F5 and chose MPS multiprocessor Dietmar |
| #127 | diderius6 | Next try, but still BSOD x0A5 on XP SP3 on Asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 with 9900k cpu Dietmar |
| #128 | diderius6 | I change the 9900k cpu on the asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 against Celeron G4900 with only 2 cores. Same BSOD 0xA5 Dietmar |
| #129 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives "CPU Core Ratio from Auto to Manual setting of 8 for 800 MHz Then Change CPU Cores from Auto to 1 for Single Core" I did, but still BSOD 0xA5, brrr.. Dietmar PS: Tomorrow I set up a Windbg connection for Acpi debug with the debug checked build files for XP. I never did this before, but because I think I do everything correct, exakt like on the giga board, something other is disturbing XP doing full Acpi. |
| #130 | diderius6 | I just make a checke, if for example has influence on the build raw file from DSDT. External (_SB_.PCI0.GFX0.IUEH, MethodObj) // 1 Arguments // From external reference file As long as there is no warning from the compiler, all External are automatically linked. I tested the builded binaries, one time with // From external reference file and one time without. They are to 100% identic. So, no room is left for having done a mistake on the asrock board during patch of Acpi 2.0 reserved words, something other is going on, Dietmar |
| #131 | diderius6 | From Microsoft about BSOD 0xA5 (0x00000011,..)(0x000000011, Parameter2, Parameter3, Parameter4): |
| #132 | diderius6 | Hi, I can not install the checked version of acpi.sys for XP SP3 on the giga board, it crashes. This is really funny, the cat bites in its tail:)), how can then Acpi debug for XP SP3 been made possible? Dietmar |
| #133 | diderius6 | With the original free acpi.sys in Windbg with0: kd> !amli lc Any idea, how and what can be seen this way? Dietmar |
| #134 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Full extraction of binaries for ACPI from Z77 XP SP3 Compatible Maybe some changes can be applied to Z370? OSI` ._OSI. Maybe this indicates ACPI v4.0 supported so no problems dealing with XP SP3. Download Z77 XP Compatible ACPI Binaries to examine: ⇗ [GUIDE] Windows XP ACPI BSOD A5 Error (2) Later ACPI v5.0+ started ACPI compatibility issues. Revision 5.0, December 6, 2011 Revision 5.0a, November 13, 2013 |
| #135 | diderius6 | Yes, this is what ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD told. The reserved Acpi2.0 word "ToInteger" appears only in the _DSM method. So this is necessary for Acpi support for XP SP3, but may be not enough Dietmar Edit: In most cases the reserved word "ToInteger" can be deleted, because the variable is of type integer. Example from Bios of Asus z170-k Switch (SDS7) Same line Bios from gigabyte Switch (ToInteger (SDS7)) |
| #136 | diderius6 | I make a new check for reserved words from Acpi >1.b these are about (>) 20 reserved words which make BSOD for XP, when they are in a parsed method or its connected parts. Until now I found in Bios only first 9 ones: TOINTEGER Method (_DSM ) can be always ignored for XP. Also those Method(), which are never called. |
| #137 | diderius6 | Hi, on the Gigabyte board this nice hack in DSDT works: Replace all Switch (ToInteger (..))with Switch (..)This means: On the giga board the ONLY commands from Acpi2.0 have to be patched are: CreateQWordField ConcatenateResTemplate PS: The iasl compiler cries, that he does not know, if this is an Integer, but continues setting it to Integer, without any error! |
| #138 | diderius6 | Here comes working DSDT table for XP SP3 32 bit, board gigabyte ga-h110m-s2h with very small patches in DSDT2, DSDT is original DSDT from F25 Bios. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #139 | diderius6 | I think, I am only one step away for to have full Acpi support for XP SP3 on this board Dietmar 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, Parameter2, Parameter3, Parameter4): SOLVED with new acpi.sys. Use the DSDt2 table from connected file for to have full Acpi XP SP3 on Asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #140 | diderius6 | ACPI_BIOS_ERROR (0xA5) The ACPI Bios in the system is not fully compliant with the ACPI specification. The first value indicates where the incompatibility lies: PARAMETERS 1 - VALUES: 1 : ACPI_ROOT_RESOURCES_FAILURE. ACPI cannot find the SCI Interrupt vector in the resources handed to it when ACPI is started. 2 - ACPI's deviceExtension 3 - ACPI's ResourceList 4 - VALUES: 0 : No resource list found 1 : No IRQ resource found in list END_VALUES 2 : ACPI_ROOT_PCI_RESOURCE_FAILURE ACPI could not process the resource list for the PCI root buses 2 - The ACPI Extension for the PCI bus. 3 - VALUES: 0 : ACPI cannot convert the BIOS' resource list into the proper format. This probably represents a flaw in the BIOS' list encoding procedure. 4 - Pointer to the QUERY_RESOURCES irp 1 : ACPI cannot convert the BIOS' resource list into the proper format. This probably represents a flaw in the BIOS' list encoding procedure. 4 - Pointer to the QUERY_RESOURCE_REQUIREMENTS irp 2 : ACPI found an empty resource list. 4 - 0 3 : ACPI could not find the current bus number in the CRS. 4 - Pointer to the PNP CRS descriptor Other : Any other value is a pointer to the Resource List for PCI. This indicates that there is an overlap between the list of resources that PCI claims to decode and the list of memory regions reported by the E820 BIOS interface. 4 - Pointer to the E820 Memory Table END_VALUES 3 : ACPI_FAILED_MUST_SUCCEED_METHOD ACPI tried to run a control method while creating device extensions to represent the ACPI namespace, but this control method failed. 2 - The ACPI Object that was being run 3 - return value from the interpreter 4 - Name of the control method (in ULONG format) 4 : ACPI_PRW_PACKAGE_EXPECTED_INTEGER ACPI evaluated a _PRW and expected to find an integer as a package element. 2 - The ACPI Extension for which the _PRW belongs to 3 - Pointer to the method 4 - The DataType returned (see amli.h) 5 : ACPI_PRW_PACKAGE_TOO_SMALL ACPI evaluated a _PRW and the package that came back failed to contain at least 2 elements. The ACPI specification requires that two elements to always be present in a _PRW. 2 - The ACPI Extension for which the _PRW belongs to 3 - Pointer to the _PRW 4 - Number of elements in the _PRW 6 : ACPI_PRx_CANNOT_FIND_OBJECT ACPI tried to find a named object named, but could not find it. 2 - The ACPI Extension for which the _PRx belongs to 3 - Pointer to the _PRx 4 - Pointer to the name of the object to look for 7 : ACPI_EXPECTED_BUFFER ACPI evaluated a method and expected to receive a Buffer in return. However, the method returned some other data type 2 - The ACPI Extension for which the method belongs to 3 - Pointer to the method 4 - The DataType returned (see amli.h) 8 : ACPI_EXPECTED_INTEGER ACPI evaluated a method and expected to receive an Integer in return. However, the method returned some other data type 2 - The ACPI Extension for which the method belongs to 3 - Pointer to the method 4 - The DataType returned (see amli.h) 9 : ACPI_EXPECTED_PACKAGE ACPI evaluated a method and expected to receive a Package in return. However, the method returned some other data type 2 - The ACPI Extension for which the method belongs to 3 - Pointer to the method 4 - The DataType returned (see amli.h) 0xA : ACPI_EXPECTED_STRING ACPI evaluated a method and expected to receive a String in return. However, the method returned some other data type 2 - The ACPI Extension for which the method belongs to 3 - Pointer to the method 4 - The DataType returned (see amli.h) 0xB : ACPI_EJD_CANNOT_FIND_OBJECT ACPI cannot find the object referenced to by an _EJD string 2 - The ACPI Extension for which which the _EJD belongs to 3 - The status returned by the interpreter 4 - Name of the object ACPI is trying to find 0xC : ACPI_CLAIMS_BOGUS_DOCK_SUPPORT ACPI provides faulty/insufficient information for dock support 2 - The ACPI Extension for which ACPI found a dock device 3 - Pointer to the _EJD method 4 - VALUES: 0: Bios does not claim system is dockage 1: Duplicate device extensions for dock device END_VALUES 0xD : ACPI_REQUIRED_METHOD_NOT_PRESENT ACPI could not find a required method/object in the namespace This is the bugcheck that is used if a vendor does not have an _HID or _ADR present 2 - The ACPI Extension that ACPI needs the object for 3 - The (ULONG) name of the method ACPI looked for 4 - VALUES: 0: Base Case 1: Conflict END_VALUES 0xE : ACPI_POWER_NODE_REQUIRED_METHOD_NOT_PRESENT ACPI could not find a requird method/object in the namespace for a power resource (or entity other than a "device"). This is the bugcheck used if a vendor does not have an _ON, _OFF, or _STA present for a power resource 2 - The NS PowerResource that ACPI needs the object for 3 - The (ULONG) name of the method ACPI looked for 4 - VALUES: 0: Base Case END_VALUES 0xF : ACPI_PNP_RESOURCE_LIST_BUFFER_TOO_SMALL ACPI could not parse the resource descriptor 2 - The current buffer that ACPI was parsing 3 - The buffer's tag 4 - The specified length of the buffer 0x10 : ACPI_CANNOT_MAP_SYSTEM_TO_DEVICE_STATES ACPI could not map determine the system to device state mapping correctly. 2 - The ACPI Extension for which ACPI is trying to do the mapping 3 - VALUES: 0 : The _PRx mapped back to a non-supported S-state 4 - The DEVICE_POWER_STATE (ie: x+1) 1 : ACPI cannot find a D-state to associate with the S-state 4 - The SYSTEM_POWER_STATE that is causing the problem 2 : The device claims to be able to wake the system when the system is in this S-state, but the system doesn't actually support this S-state. 4 - The SYSTEM_POWER_STATE that is causing the problem END_VALUES 0x11 : ACPI_SYSTEM_CANNOT_START_ACPI The system could not enter ACPI mode 2 - VALUES: 0 : System could not initialize AML interpreter 1 : System could not find RSDT 2 : System could not allocate critical driver structures 3 : System could not load RSDT 4 : System could not load DDBs 5 : System cannot connect Interrupt vector 6 : SCI_EN never becomes set in PM1 Control Register 7 : Table checksum is incorrect 3 - Pointer to the table that had a bad checksum 4 - Creator Revision 8 : Failed to load DDB 3 - Pointer to the table that ACPI failed to load 4 - Creator Revision 9 : Unsupported Firmware Version 3 - FADT Version 0xA : System could not find MADT 0xB : System could not find any valid Local SAPIC structures in the MADT 0xC: The OS is not capable of supporting active docking on this platform 0xD: Some of the specified system sleep states are not supported on this platform END_VALUES 0x14 : ACPI_PNP_RESOURCE_LIST_LENGTH_TOO_LARGE ACPI could not parse the resource descriptor, the length exceeds MAXULONG. 2 - The current buffer that ACPI was parsing 3 - The buffer's tag 4 - Pointer to a variable containing ULONGLONG length of the buffer 0x15 : ACPI_TABLE_LOADTABLE ACPI had a fatal error when processing a LoadTable instruction 2 - AML Context (!amli r Context) 3 - VALUES: 1 : Failed to load the table 2 : Parameter Path String Object was not found 3 : Failed to insert ParameterData into ParameterPathString 4 : Out of System Memory END_VALUES 4 - NT status code 0x16 : ACPI_ILLEGAL_PARENT ACPI had a fatal error when processing an xSDT. An object was declared as a child of a parent that cannot have children. 2 - Pointer to the parent NSOBJ 3 - Pointer to the illegal child NSOBJ 0x17 : ACPI_INVALID_GPE_INDEX ACPI had a fatal error when processing a GPE index. An invalid index was specified. 2 - GPE Bit Index. 0x1000 : ACPI_BIOS_USING_OS_MEMORY ACPI had a fatal error when processing a memory operation region. The memory operation region tried to map memory that has been allocated for OS usage. 2 - The high portion of the physical address of the memory region. 3 - The low portion of the physical address of the memory region. 4 - The length of memory being mapped. 0x2001 : ACPI_FAILED_PIC_METHOD ACPI tried to evaluate the PIC control method but failed 2 - InterruptModel (Integer) 3 - return value from interpreter 4 - Pointer to the PIC control method 0x10001 : ACPI_CANNOT_ROUTE_INTERRUPTS ACPI tried to do interrupt routing, but failed 2 - Pointer to the device object 3 - Pointer to the parent of the device object 4 - Pointer to the PRT 0x10002 : ACPI_PRT_CANNOT_FIND_LINK_NODE ACPI could not find the link node referenced in a _PRT (This code exists in Windows 2000, but is obsolete in XP) 2 - Pointer to the device object 3 - Pointer to the string name ACPI is looking for, but could not find. 4 - Pointer to the PRT. Dump this with !acpikd.nsobj 0x10003 : ACPI_PRT_CANNOT_FIND_DEVICE_ENTRY ACPI could not find a mapping in the _PRT package for a device (This code exists in Windows 2000, but is obsolete in XP) 2 - Pointer to the device object 3 - The Device ID / Function Number. This DWORD is encoded as follows: Bits 5:0 are the PCI Device Number, Bits 8:6 are the PCI function number. 4 - Pointer to the PRT. Dump this with !acpikd.nsobj 0x10005 : ACPI_PRT_HAS_INVALID_FUNCTION_NUMBERS ACPI found an entry in the _PRT for which the function ID isn't all F's. The generic format for a _PRT entry is that the device number is specified, but the function number isn't. If it isn't done this way, then the machine vendor can introduce dangerous ambiguities. (This code exists in Windows 2000, but is obsolete in XP) 2 - Pointer to the PRT object. Dump this with !acpikd.nsobj 3 - Pointer to the current PRT Element. This is an index into the PRT. 4 - The DeviceID/FunctionID of the element. This DWORD is encoded. Bits 15:0 are the PCI Function Number. Bits 31:16 are the PCI Device Number. 0x10006 : ACPI_LINK_NODE_CANNOT_BE_DISABLED ACPI found a link node, but cannot disable it. Link nodes must be disable to allow for reprogramming 2 - Pointer to the link node. This device is missing the _DIS method. 0x10007 : The _PRT contained a reference to a vector not described in the I/O APIC entries MAPIC table. 2 - The vector that couldn't be found 0x10008 : The ACPI SCI interrupt level is invalid. 0x10009 : The FADT could not be located. 0x1000a : The RSDT\XSDT could not be located. 0x1000b : The ACPI table length was out of sync with the table revision 2 - The ACPI table signature 3 - pointer to the ACPI table 0x1000c : _DSM method for interrupts returned malformed data. 2 - Revision ID 3 - Function Index 0x1000d : A device used both GPE and GPIO interrupts, which is not supported. 2 - The ACPI Extension for the device 3 - VALUES: 0 : _PRW specified with no wake-capable interrupts and at least one GPIO interrupt 1 : Since there are wake-capable interrupts, _PRW should specify a GpeInfo value of 0xffffffff 0x20000 : The PM_TMR_BLK entry in the Fixed ACPI Description Table doesn't point to a working ACPI timer block. 2 - The I/O port in the Fixed Table END_VALUES DESCRIPTION This bug check covers a great variety of ACPI problems. If a kernel debugger is attached, use "!analyze -v". This command will analyze the precise problem, and display whatever information is most useful for debugging the specific error. If Parameter 1 equals 0x02, the ACPI BIOS could not process the resource list for the PCI root buses. In this case, Parameter 3 specifies the exact problem, and the remaining parameters have the following definitions. Parameter 2 Parameter 3 Parameter 4 The ACPI extension for the PCI bus A pointer to the resource list for PCI A pointer to the E820 memory table Cause The list of resources that PCI claims to decode overlaps with the list of memory regions that the E820 BIOS interface reports. This kind of conflict is never permitted. |
| #141 | YuriyCN | Motheboard Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (socket 1151, DDR4) BIOS v1, v2, v3 - i installed WinXP SP3. There were no problems. It was only necessary to install AHCI driver for SATA hard disc drive. v20,v21...v25 - WinXP is not installed. Errors in ACPI. |
| #142 | diderius6 | ⇗ @YuriyCN Just look at my DSDT2 table in gigaXP.rar . I think, you can integrate it direct in your Bios v>=20 and BSOD for Acpi for XP SP3 is gone Dietmar |
| #143 | diderius6 | Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.12.0002.633 X86 |
| #144 | diderius6 | The BSOD on the asrock board with ACPI_RESCONFLICT: e134f008 -- (!acpiresconflict e134f008 898adca8) Number of arguments found = 1. 2 arguments expected Usage: acpiresconflict [DeviceExtension] [IoResList] [e820Info] remembers me at "There is a critical error in the BIOS, in the ACPI setup under SSDT7. I have taken the liberty to fix it on my machine, but I don't know where to report the bug, so here goes. There are 3 big screwups on methods that require two arguments, being passed as a method with one argument and then a "hanging" argument. I am not sure how this was implemented, but it's total garbage. For example \_SB.SGOV requires two arguments, but in positions where it SHOULD be invoked, \_SB.GGOV is invoked instead, and only takes ONE argument. So, instead of passing two arguments, one argument is given, and one argument is just hanging in the middle of nowhere, causing compilation errors in BIOS. There are many instances of this behavior for example: \_SB.GGOV (0x02010014) OLDV must be changed to: \_SB.SGOV (0x02010014, OLDV) ⇗ https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.ph...at-I-have-fixed Dietmar |
| #145 | diderius6 | Hi, I installed the Acpi Bios 1704 for Asus Apex X motherboard, modded by Elmor for XP ⇗ https://community.hwbot.org/topic/174849...#comment-516868 Then I installed there the full XP SP3 debug version. I can see on this z370 chipset now all Acpi devices and HT with all cores from 8700k. Elmor used another method for modding the Bios. And I think, he also changed the about 7 SSDT tables, which makes BSOD until now on my asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board Dietmar EDIT: The same problem with the timer appears on this Bios mod from Elmor. This is interesting, seems my hack for the timer has not reached hwbot. FACP Flags is A5 86 03 00 so, clock is set to 1, needs to be 0. This can be done by changing this Hexvalues to A5 06 03 00 EDIT2: I can not find the FACP table in Bios on the Asus Apex X board. Any help is welcome. |
| #146 | diderius6 | Windbg messages for Asrock 370 board. It seems, it is not a real Acpi problem. |
| #147 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | Hi, Some info about bug with Acpi Timer on Skylake+ platforms: - XP preSP2 uses TSC, not affected - XP SP2,SP3 uses acpi timer, affected - Vista search for HPET Timer and uses it, frequency is 14.31818 MHz (4 x freq of Acpi timer), not affected - Vista uses acpi timer if didn't find HPET, affected - Win7+ check quality of processor counter (TSC), skylake+ cpus have constant rate counter, so these OSes use TSC and not affected. Unlike XP, processor raw frequency divided to 1024, for example 3600Mhz/1024=3.579545Mhz (avoid arithmetic 32bit overflow in old-gen apps ?) - If Win7+ forced to not use TSC (bcdedit.exe /set useplatformclock true), it search for HPET and uses it, not affected - If Win7+ forced to not use TSC and didn't find HPET, it uses acpi timer, affected Regarding acpi specs and intel specs on pch chipset, acpi timer generates hardware SCI interrupt (IRQ #9) if TMR_EN bit is SET. This bit is SETted on live system, but windows doesnt receive any interrupts. Near to TMR_EN exist PWRBTN_EN bit (generates SCI at power button press), and if we press button, windows receive interrupt (surprise!) I came to the conclusion that this is a bug at the platform level. Maybe bios doesnt set some hardware regs or intel forget to say something about additional requirements, who knows.... EDIT: this is not platform bug, acpi timer just disabled in chipset by BIOS |
| #148 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD hi, on hwbot.org they told, that the z270 Asus Apex IX has from beginning full XP Acpi support and also a board from Gigabyte Z370X SOC Force LN2. The Asus z270 Apex IX board I will test in next days. The board from gigabyte is not sold on the normal market, just for overclockers. I wonder, if another table for example SSDT in Bios has to do with the pm_timer. And maximal unclear is for me, why I have no success with ACPI on my Asrock z370 board. The bios DSDT table is nearly one by one like the Bios DSDT table from gigabyte H110M-S2H. May be, another device is called, where until now I do not prevent it from reserved words from Acpi 2.0, have a nice evening Dietmar |
| #149 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #148 acpi specs dont say anything about controling timer in acpi tables, timer is hardware level OS can only: 1) route interrupt to itself(SCI mode) or to bios (SMI) 2) disable or enable interrupts p.s. because win7+ use TSC and we all have "right" cpus, no need anymore to fix this buggy timer, just patch os/bios to avoid using it |
| #150 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #148 New syntax will generate A5(03,xxxx,С014001,yyyy) error, if you have other errcodes this not directed linked to new syntax I dont know much more about res conflicts at acpi level, but acpi 2 has important difference comparing to 1.1b - Integer implemenation. All integers in acpi 2.0 are 64 bit, so we can define QWORD fields and read/write to it from integer variables. In WinXP integers are 32 bit and it support only one "64 bit" QWordMemory instruction and i dont understand how this OS set/read 64 bits fields inside this structure. |
| #151 | diderius6 | Windbg on the Asrock z370 tells always the same:0: kd> !pcitree I think, the total absent of the pci list depends on Sat Dec 15 21:01:10.421 2018 (UTC + 1:00): ACPI: E820 Entry 0 (type 1) (0-9c400) overlaps |
| #152 | diderius6 | I just noticed, that in the Bios mod 1704 for Asus Apex X from Elmor you cant switch off the pm_timer. Even in Bios it is set to A5 02 03 00, the compi always use A5 82 03 00, so at the moment no clock and no correct working of Acpi in XP SP3 on Asus Apex X because of crazy not working pm_timer. In this case, only the HAL.dll hack for to use always the system clock works, because in registry the value in FACP A5 02 03 00is always overwritten by Bios with A5 82 03 00, even you set it to unwritable(!) Dietmar PS: I set the pm_timer to 32 bit in Bios. Also not helps. Any flag I can set in Bios from FACP, only the pm_timer is unstoppable. |
| #153 | Pill Monster |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #152 Enabling HPET just allows it to be used by OS, it doesn't force the OS to use it. Use of HPET depends on OS version and boot loader options. bcdedit /set useplatformclock yes Forces the use of the platform clock as the system's performance counter. bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes Forces the OS to use Dynamic TSC. (Windows 8 and above)... |
| #154 | diderius6 | [img]⇗ I just installed XP SP1 :)) on the Asus Apex X motherboard. Oh, the timer works there normal! So, it depends on something in XP SP3 Dietmar |
| #155 | @rne | Nice to see progress. That would also be very helpful for all overclockers focusing on budget mainboards without any extra XP compatible bios from vendor |
| #156 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #154 because sp1 can use TSC or old |
| #157 | diderius6 | From Wikipedia: If the ACPI is not set up correctly the OS cannot list the HPET. And the BIOS and OS developers don't see the need to get Real Time support. So the HPET is only there to satisfy the system's high speed needs. If the HPET is set up correctly in the ACPI from BIOS then the ACPI MMIO page of the first HPET chip should be at 0xFED00000 and the second HPET at page 0xFED80000 (see the discussion for further information). In terms of physical embodiment in Windows XP SP3, the IRQ0 and IRQ8 are typically mapped to a "High Precision Event Timer" when using the ACPI HAL (version 5.1.2600.5512), albeit that the QueryPerformanceFrequency API call returns a value related to the rated processor clock speed (for example, 2.6 GHz) or PMTIMER (3.579545 MHz) rather than the Intel HPET spec'd value of 15 MHz that you would get using Windows Vista. The ACPI timer is an additional system timer that is required as part of the ACPI specification. This timer is also known as the power management (PM) timer or the chipset timer. It has a 24-bit counter that increments at 3.579545MHz (three times the PIT frequency). The timer can be programmed to generate an interrupt when its high-order bit changes value. There is no counter input register; the counter always rolls over. That is, when the counter reaches the maximum, 24-bit binary value, it goes back to zero and continues counting from there. I think, take a look at! HPET in XP does not exist. In version XP SP >=2 it is the pm_timer, as you can see in the MHZ values in the Win-timer Dietmar |
| #158 | diderius6 | I found an interesting bit in the 22 flags in FACP (beginning with rev. 5 of FACP): HW_REDUCED_ACPI A one indicates that the ACPI Hardware Interface (chapter 4) is not implemented. Software-only alternatives are used for supported fixed-features defined in chapter 4. 5.1.1.1 Runtime Reduced Hardware Support This feature automatically supports reduced hardware platforms without any code changes. The reduced hardware support is dynamically enabled via the HW_REDUCED_ACPI flag in the revision 5 FADT. If this flag is set, ACPICA will not attempt to initialize or use any of the usual ACPI hardware. Note, when this flag is set, all of the following ACPI hardware is assumed to be not present and is not initialized or accessed: General Purpose Events (GPEs) Fixed Events (PM1a/PM1b and PM Control) Power Management Timer and Console Buttons (power/sleep) Real-time Clock Alarm Global Lock System Control Interrupt (SCI) The FACS is assumed to be non-existent So, just a try on the Asrock z370 board, setting this flag to 1 Dietmar |
| #159 | diderius6 | Here comes the FACP table from asus Apex X with modded Bios from Elmor , extracted direct with iasl.exe. rw-everything does not show these interesting bits in FLAGS. And write you can nearly nothing. /* |
| #160 | diderius6 | I succeed to set this bit, but the timer still does not work Dietmar /* |
| #161 | diderius6 | on XP SP3, now I have full ACPI support on the Asus Apex X board Dietmar diderius6 has attached images to this post |
| #162 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #161 can you upload your hal.dll mod for others to try? |
| #163 | diderius6 | Hi, I make a try. I do not know, what Fernando tells about this. But when my file will be deletet, I can write a short tutorial how to reach this, Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #164 | diderius6 | 9900k works also with full Acpi support in XP SP3, showing and working 16 Threads on Asus Apex X Dietmar diderius6 has attached images to this post |
| #165 | XPLives | That is good news. I was going to suggest octacore test since hexacore no problem. Asus Apex X is a Z370 board? Can this be back ported to Z170? Did you force ACPI to use software mode as default? |
| #166 | diderius6 | Hi, I look, how to enable RTC clock in hal.dll. The idea for this hack came from Mov AX, 0xDEAD but there are a lot of different hal.dll on the market. This one works for the german Version XP SP3 32 bit professional, yes, the Apex board is z370, Dietmar PS: Not easy to port a working Acpi DSDT to another platform. I have no success with my Asrock k6 board, even I try a lot. Until now, it works only, when there is a previous version of a board, which works with Acpi on XP. May be other places have to be changed also, not only DSDT, may be even not in the pure Bios region. |
| #167 | XPLives | I successfully tested Haswell
Z87 / Broadwell Z97 branch. No ACPI issues. Windows 2000, XP, and
2003 have no problems. This is the final generation before SkyLake
started the ACPI issue in XP. Maybe the key is in Z97 and Z170
differences to fix ACPI for XP. [16 Month time gap] Z 97 - May 12, 2014 (XP ACPI compatible) X 99 - August 2014 (Should be XP compatible with ACPI) <--- Future test maybe hidden ACPI secret only 1 year+ difference. Z170 - September 1, 2015 (XP ACPI issues begin) |
| #168 | diderius6 | The most common problems for Acpi are just the use of reserved words from Acpi 2.0. At github they told, that Bios manufactures start with using Acpi 2.0 reserved vocabularies from January 2006. But I also think, that most mainboard (Bios?) manufactures do not have a look for XP compability now. So it is a very hard job, to make anything work for XP Dietmar PS: When I look at all the different Bios z97 - z370 from different manufacturers, I come to the idea, that they use an automated program for building Bios, because they are all nearly identic. |
| #169 | XPLives | I discovered in Z87 and Z97 SATA IDE Compatibility Mode exists in BIOS but I will need to find a method to port this MOD to Z170, Z270, Z370, and Z390 chipsets. This will make XP SATA installation without the need of AHCI slipstream first method. Laptops could use this to install XP lacking an optical disc drive requirement. This will solve the headaches many are experiencing since USB installation on SkyLake+ can be problematic and fail. Do you have any expertise? |
| #170 | diderius6 | I make an XP.iso using nlite, with ALL the ahci drivers from fernando. So, this problem is gone for me. On some boards there is an Asmedia driver for AHCI. With this driver, IDE is possible. But before you have to integrate this driver from Asmedia Dietmar |
| #171 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ XPLives im Beitrag ¶ #169 maybe is it time to forget ancient methods and requirements ? today no need prepare media for installing windows in "MS Way", we have modern&fast equalents to install xp (easy2boot, firadisk, winntsetup, yumi, ...). installing from usb3 disk, installing on ahci controller - no problem |
| #172 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | Moved to ¶ Windows XP 32-Bit and Server 2003 32-Bit on Modern Hardware #4 There many unresolved problems running Windows XP x32 on sky/kaby/coffee lake hardware my own list: - ACPI BSOD: .......... 0xA5 (0x03, X, 0xС0140001, Z) ACPI 2.0 syntax, 99% solved (custom acpi.sys), 1% - "QWordAcc" still 32bit only .......... 0xA5 (0x02, X ,Y ,Z) error in ACPIRangeValidatePciResources, PCI vs E820 list conflict, solved (custom acpi.sys) .......... 0xA5 (0x11, 0x08 ,Y ,Z) error in ACPIInitializeDDB, solved (custom acpi.sys) .......... other possible BSODs, unresolved - all integers in original ACPI 1.0 XP are 32 bits, ACPI 2.0 requires all ints to be 64 bits, unresolved. Acpi.sys from Longhorn v.5048 has 64 bit integers and compatible win Winxp - Broken acpi pm_timer, solved (custom hal.dll, forced to use TSC counter) or enable hidden bios option "TCO Timer" - Acpi tables patcher at boot time like Chameleon/Clover, solved,( ⇗ http://reboot.pro/topic/22051-acpi-patcher-at-boot-time) - CPU in C0 power state 50-60% of time even without cpu load, solved (custom intelppm.sys, 1) only C1 c-state or 2) C1/С7s/C10 c-states) - USB 3.x drivers for integrated intel chipsets, solved (patched AMD USB3 driver) - Resource manager show conflict VGA card with ACPI IOTR/IOTraps device, solved 1) manual patching dsdt or 2) custom acpi.sys - UEFI x64 Boot, partial solved for WinXP x64 only (bootmgr from vista beta+vesa vga driver) - NVMExpress drivers, partial solved (modified OFA 1.3/1.5 driver+storport.sys from windows 2003) - Access to additional 3TB+ Disks/GPT partitions, solved (Paragon GPT Loader) - Boot from GPT partitions, unresolved (require uefi boot support first) - TRIM support in NTFS/Storport/??? driver unresolved - Kernel debug with WinDBG/KD over LAN/USB3.0 connection solved, (⇗ https://github.com/MovAX0xDEAD/KDNET) |
| #173 | diderius6 | "ACPI BSODs not related with acpi.2.0 syntax solved, using custom acpi.sys" hihi;).. may be because of some strange reasons XP thinks, the Bios is from earlier than 1999, Dietmar |
| #174 | XPLives | Yes for desktop there is
Asmedia but laptops typically have only one Intel SATA controller now so
this will allow more users to install XP with only the Intel SATA port.
Also because the Intel SATA in IDE Compatibility allows swapping of
the drive from one machine to another. You cannot do this with
different SATA AHCI setups. So once you've installed XP in IDE mode or
SATA IDE mode you can move the installed XP OS to another machine which
can be Z170, Z270, Z370, or Z390 and it will boot. No need to reinstall
from scratch. In addition Windows 2000 works and install this way much easier. This is why it is needed for both laptops and desktops. The code is in the BIOS but I need someone to help copy this from Z97 to Z170 BIOS for testing. |
| #175 | XPLives | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Sometimes the ancient method works the best. Intel xHCI USB 3.0 does not support XP. Many laptops do not have an optical disc drive or only a single SATA port and some only have 1 USB port such as tablets or maybe no USB ports or defective/bad USB ports. Adding the SATA IDE Compatibility mode to the BIOS would allow them to install directly off their own internal storage drive and not need to use a USB port. Any older OS that predates SATA might also install successfully using this method. Windows 2000 can be easily installed aside from XP and 2003 in this manner. No more iaStor.sys is corrupted. These USB methods have issues on some desktops/laptops and is not 100% guaranteed either which causes the chicken or the egg issue if they cannot install XP whereas SATA IDE Compatibility mode allows them to install 2K, XP, or 2003 in DOS before updating to the SATA AHCI driver post install via Device Manager / registry update. No optical or USB storage device will be necessary. Avoids the Intel USB 3.0 xHCI compatibility issue with certain XP boot devices failing to install to completion. Also unnecessary to waste a USB stick solely for installing the OS when it can be installed in DOS on the same storage drive if prepartitioned properly. Installing from internal SATA SSD in DOS is many times faster than from any USB flash drive which can fail or have multiple steps which may cause user confusion/errors during the install process. No need to use nLite or slipstream the correct Hardware ID before hand. The USB install might also occupy the C: or Partition 1 during destination selection. Guarantees the ability to move an existing Windows 2000, XP, and 2003 install from one machine to another without reinstalling from scratch in SATA AHCI Mode to use. I can swap an XP install from Pentium 1 to Z97 and works. ⇗ https://www.winhistory.de/more/386/xpmini.htm.en No more BSOD 7B installation headaches since the BIOS will support both methods of booting XP. One could then use only 1 installed copy of XP to move among Z68-Z390 machines at will not restricted. This means installing 2000, XP, and 2003 onto one drive and storing all the OS files on the same drive and not ever needing 3 USB sticks or 3 separate CDs to deal with. Using an XP NO ACPI install would method would then work on all systems regardless of ACPI issues. Current XP ACPI fixes in Z170+ BIOSes still requires more technical experience to solve than a typical user will want to deal with. End goal is more XP installs as a result of the simplification of the install process means more users interested in 2000, XP, and 2003 and older pre-SATA OS means more users visiting this site and further progression or interest in help tackling the ACPI issue. One day Intel USB 4.0 will arrive and the same USB installers will fail or the authors of these USB installers no longer care about XP. Most of these USB installer tools don't even work inside XP anymore and require Windows 7+ to create the USB install image. This BIOS Mod will work as a future safeguard/buffer while it is still possible and much more easily accomplished. |
| #176 | diderius6 | I also think, that XP install direct via CD is best Dietmar |
| #177 | diderius6 | I just noticed, that the english version (for multiprocessor acpi) of hal.dll and the german hal.dll in XP SP3 32 bit are identic. Because of this, my hack hal.dll works on any XP SP3, just install XP, after this rename hal.dll in WINDOWS\System32 to halori.dll and copy my hal.dll there, now timer works correct, Dietmar |
| #178 | XPLives | Yes Dietmar only because it's
more reliable and not dependent on the USB and cannot die unless SATA
dies first. USB can change to 4.0, 5.0, and break compatibility again
which will happen in the future. I am working on a pure DOS install method for XP to avoid USB devices entirely and no optical disc drive needed just 98SE DOS and XP folder copied to the drive. But I am trying to find a way to create a native AHCI SATA detection similar to IDE mode but many attempts failed. But if I succeed then no more need to slipstream SATA as XP will autodetect SATA controller. I think I need some program to read the SATA Controller Hardware ID and pass this and rewrite the hive so that when XP OS on SSD/HDD moved into a new system it will scan and alter the "registry" to change only the Hardware ID bits then it will load the OS with no problem. I don't have any registry hacking experience to do this but I have compared the Registry before Floppy installed slipstreamed SATA AHCI driver and after during the setup phase so I can do comparison of what bytes need to be changed. If you know of a program that can read the SATA Hardware ID each time and change these bits in the Registry it might be possible to make XP work on all SATA systems even during the install. |
| #179 | diderius6 | Hi, much more easy is to build an XP.iso using nlite 1.4.9.3 and add ALL ahci drivers from Fernando. I load it up here, just integrate those drivers with nlite and build iso with nlite, thats all Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #180 | XPLives | That will only work for
"known" SATA controllers but we need one that can work with even future
unknown without modifying. Vista uses one that detects for all AHCI
even unknown ones so can be moved to a different system. IDE does the
same with the newer SATA controllers using IDE compatibility mode past
2001. I just need a tool to read this in DOS and inside preload of XP
once installed to overwrite registry bits of the SATA Hardware ID
location. It will do it at each boot up so it will always check and use
the current one connected so as long as SATA is supported into the
future this should work even when both of us are long gone.
But your idea I have tested with a few chipsets inserted before but
only can work for the XP installing phase but not after post SATA AHCI
install you cannot move the XP install after installation to another
chipset with SATA AHCI and boot. 7B will result each time. |
| #181 | diderius6 | May be, all AHCI drivers are the same. In this case, make try with generic number for AHCI in TXTSETUP.OEM [HardwareIds.SCSI.iaAHCI] Dietmar TXTSETUP.OEM and add PCI\CC_010601 to iaAHCI.inf, test, if you can delete all the other entries for example PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A282&CC_0106 I am not sure about all syntax in TXTSETUP.OEM and *.inf because of this some handwork is needed. |
| #182 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ XPLives im Beitrag ¶ #175 maybe is it time to check how work these installers ? they will still work with usb 4 and usb 5 too and still installing xp. Zitat von ⇗ XPLives im Beitrag ¶ #175 #1 -- Internal SATA optical disc drive - CD, DVD, or Blu-ray #2 -- CD-RW disc for nLite slipstreaming of the SATA AHCI driver into your XP burned install disc #4 -- Desktop motherboard with a rear PS/2 physical port #5 -- PS/2 keyboard you are crazy, for installing window xp need nothing of these, why people buy that ? p.s. want ide compatibilty bios mod on ahci-only hardware (skylake+)? good luck ) |
| #183 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #181 pci\cc_010601(or pci\cc_0106) should work as uni solution, but probably only for intel chipsets because iastor.sys |
| #184 | XPLives | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD These optical drives have more uses than you can imagine. They buy it so they can play and rip their Blu-ray movies in XP. Not just for installing the OS. Can be used to install any older OS the proper way not just XP, Vista, Windows 7, Windows 10 on pre USB systems with SATA only or IDE interface. PS/2 keyboard - because it works on all Operating Systems and that is all you need to install every OS. You can even use a PS/2 to USB Keyboard adapter which works the same. In my case I use a 5 Pin DIN to PS/2 to PS/2 port adapter with an old IBM AT keyboard. It doesn't matter if it is 5 PIN DIN or USB as long as it is connected to the PS/2 port. No need to deal with USB ports not working with the USB mouse properly. This is especially true with using Windows 98 when the cursor cannot be controlled. These tools should be needed for any user who is new to XP to complete it. It's more straightforward and if you can't afford these tools then maybe you should create your own thread page to help assist for a pure USB XP install method that you believe in so much. Write up the best installer program and version#, download link to that program that works inside Windows 98SE or 2000 and can create a USB XP installer from scratch to any USB device. From what I have seen and tested most only work in Windows 7 or Windows 10 to use this program. The older XP versions might corrupt the USB flash drive in my own tests as I lost a 4GB flash drive that cannot be restored or worse accidentally corrupt another USB external drive that is still connected in my case a 2TB external USB drive. So if you can guarantee a fool proof USB XP Installer program that can work inside Windows 2000, XP, and 2003 and not need Vista, Windows 7, or 8.X, or 10 to generate the full USB XP OS installer I want you to write it up in a new thread with all the details so you can take credit for it. That way if any problems you can answer how to fix it since you have more experience dealing with USB installers than most of us. I found many problems which I listed above so this will be helpful if your statement is that strong on this you should create it. Other USB problems: How would you install XP onto a laptop missing USB ports or all defective? How would you install XP on a SkyLake, Kaby Lake, or Coffee Lake Laptop or tablet with just 1 USB port that does NOT have USB 2.0 ports but only Intel USB 3.0 ports? SATA IDE Compatibility mode: Z87 and Z97 support this SATA IDE Compatibility mode. This is not the IDE 40 Pin controller on the motherboard. You are using SATA only ports and SATA storage devices. I hope you understand this and if you do if you are saying it is not possible to transfer and copy the BIOS storage module from one generation over to Z170 BIOS to do a test then explain why it would not work or why not even try to see what happens? I can do the testing since I have two BIOS sockets to attempt any BIOS testing or if you can show how to transfer the Storage Module from one chipset to another I will attempt the testing. Is it more than just the code that has been removed in SkyLake+? Why does this still work on Z87 and Z97 and not in Z170 if you understand it well enough to explain in more detail than good luck response which isn't helpful? |
| #185 | XPLives | Dietmar, I have tried that method (cc_010601) in an earlier test a few weeks ago it does not work before I stopped because it is a "Compatible IDs". Mov AX, 0xDEAD ( pci\cc_0106) should work as uni solution, but probably only for intel chipsets because iastor.sys This method ( pci\cc_0106) I also tried this a few weeks ago before stopping the tests to emulate how Vista method works but also failed. The reason is CC_0106 is not visible to XP because it is a "Compatible IDs" and the driver only sees "Hardware IDs" in XP during boot. Since Hardware IDs are not common among all the Intel SATA Controllers you cannot do a global detection. That is why Vista can do it natively since CC_106 exists on all Intel SATA controllers and Vista+ is programmed to accept "Compatible IDs" not just "Hardware IDs". If there is a way to brute force XP code to accept "Compatible IDs" for Boot storage device than this will work for all Intel SATA and can be made for all AMD SATA as well. |
| #186 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ XPLives im Beitrag ¶ #184 Intel's PCH specification on 100+ series chipsets: The PCH SATA controller support two modes of operation, AHCI mode using memory space and RAID mode. The PCH SATA controller no longer supports IDE legacy mode using I/O space. Therefore, AHCI software is required. IviBridge/SandyBridge/etc: Standard ATA Emulation The PCH contains a set of registers that shadow the contents of the legacy IDE registers. The behavior of the Command and Control Block registers, PIO, and DMA data transfers, resets, and interrupts are all emulated. |
| #187 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ XPLives im Beitrag ¶ #185 one of compatible id for intel works in xp without any hacks, my setup in TXTSETUP.SIF (windows xp sp1 32 bit): [HardwareIdsDatabase] PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0104 = "IaStor" PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0106 = "IaStor" tested on ivybridge and skylake, all works well, setup phase see all disks |
| #188 | diderius6 | I noticed, when you set in Bios, Acpi FACP table flag HARDWARE_REDUCED_ACPI to 1 (enable) Win 10 64 bit cries on next start: Problems with Acpi.. So this simple means, Win 10 is more prickly with Acpi than XP, brrr.. Dietmar Edit: When I set back this flag to 0, all is ok and Win 10 starts normal with the modded Bios from Elmor. So I have XP 32 bit with full Acpi (16 threads), sound, USB 3.1 via Asmedia, booting from Samsung 970 pro nvme. And Win 10 64 bit on the same compi with 9900k cpu. 3d mark 2001 is more than 25 % faster on XP than on win10^^. Prime95 shows on XP with 16 threads after 20 min 54 degrees max Temperature and on Win10 55 degrees. Hm, for what I need win10?! |
| #189 | XPLives | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Where are you placing your TXTSETUP.SIF? Are you using this only for new XP setup? I have a similar one for installing Z68, Z170, Z370. This only could be used for installing XP onto one machine but not migrate. After XP is installed in SATA AHCI on SkyLake you then move the hard drive / SSD to the Ivy Bridge computer and try booting in SATA AHCI mode it should do BSOD 7B or a Reboot Loop. Try testing that and you will find it does not do universal SATA AHCI detection moving the drive with XP already installed one one system with a different chipset. That is why IDE or SATA IDE Mode will work between multiple chipsets without a problem. |
| #190 | XPLives | Dietmar, Hmmm... I wonder if Windows 10's newer updates causing it? Try installing the first Windows 10 release? Anniversary and later versions known to break compatibility with older programs. Spectre and Meltdown patch also. My SkyLake worked with Windows 10 Anniversary Edition with ACPI, with XP - NO ACPI, Vista, and Windows 7 with ACPI. |
| #191 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ XPLives im Beitrag ¶ #189 why you need install first on skylake and then copy on ivy ? why not install on ivy natively ? there are too many diff chipsets (non-intel including), where os will get bsod |
| #192 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ XPLives im Beitrag ¶ #189 for texmode setup phase for gui phase need usual *.inf |
| #193 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #188 try post 2001 games, more fps in vista+, starcraft 2, dishonored... |
| #194 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD "boot acpi table patcher like chameleon&clover" I heard some times ago about a tool for XP, for to test Acpi compability for new Bios. This would be really nice, to have a test tool for Acpi compability XP, like Qemu, Dietmar PS: Interesting would be, if DSDT alone makes or destroys Acpi compability in XP. I come to the idea, because I found in DSDT for the Apex IX board an extra entry, when I compare it with the nearly identic DSDT table for the Asrock k6 board.
Method (_CRS, 0, Serialized) // _CRS: Current Resource Settings Asrock k6 Method (_CRS, 0, Serialized) // _CRS: Current Resource Settings |
| #195 | diderius6 | I tried to generate an XP friendly DSDT table, with the disassembler command from a version of iasl from 2012. iasl -2 -d 320.raw But then I get a strange message "Could not parse ACPI tables, AE_ALREADY_EXISTS" This looks, if there is the belonging *.dsl file, but it isnt Dietmar |
| #196 | diderius6 | for XP SP3 on Asus Apex X have a nice day Dietmar PS: I install XP direct from CD to the nvme disk:))! diderius6 has attached images to this post |
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| #198 | diderius6 | Interesting would be also, if it is possible to build an generic DSDT table for XP SP3, with minimal entries, Dietmar |
| #199 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | i've played with win8 and power states: cpu C1 - works acpi C2 - broken acpi C3 - broken cpu MWAIT - works (enter only C7s and C10) seems _CST/_OSC/xxx tables contain only mwait correct states, remains are broken. p.s. very simple implementation of mwait in Haiku OS:
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| #201 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD I read from Acpi specification, that only C0 and C1 have to be implemented. Have you tried to change energy-options in XP and look what happens? Some time ago I hear, that when you chose there "laptop", that XP installed less devices via Acpi. Still I am looking for a minimal DSDT for XP. Is it enough, to change all Acpi tables from one XP-Acpi friendly bios Bios to another Acpi unfriendly Bios? The most important question for the beginning is, where stays all the information about numerating and setting the PCI devices, that are called via acpi. And what is the minimal list for those Acpi-pci devices. Will this work? May be yes, because without any Acpi this tables are ignored. Dietmar PS: Here are the installations files for nvme. Integrate them in XP installations CD via nlite. After txt setup you have to copy storport.sys to windows\system32\drivers, because you will see BSOD 0x7B, because XP does not copy this file for strange reasons during install. Until now, I do not see anyone, who succeed with this in XP SP3 32 bit, only me. But it works! You also can install them via *.inf on running XP, dont forget to copy storport.sys to windows\system32\drivers and at once you will see your nvme disk, no matter what brand. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #202 | diderius6 | Hi, I just noticed, that acpi.sys in XP posready 2009 is 5.2.3790.1830, which means win2003 version. There are big differences between XP and win2003 in Acpi, for example win2003 does not look at the registry for the Acpi tables but XP does Dietmar EDIT: Install of XP posready 2009 on the Asrock k6 board gives the same BSOD 0xA5 on the modded Bios, like real XP SP3. So, something is not ok with the Acpi tables in settings PCI resources in my modded DSDT table. |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #201 C2&C3 also implemented c1 is two cpu instructions "sti then halt", с2, с3 is external acpi controlled logic. energy options affect speedshift/c1e, so cpu will down clock or not, i dont see any other changes p.s. again, we have broken acpi hardware/bios support in skylake+ |
| #204 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | i've played with 2nd variant, cpu and package enter more deeper states then c1: C1->C1 broken acpi C2->mwait C7s broken acpi C3->mwait C10 ⇗ Now power states transitions look like win7+ ) |
| #205 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #202 it is still acpi 1.1b implemenation and 32 bit integers, no big diff for me |
| #206 | diderius6 | I just noticed, that the driver on the posready 2009 CD acpi.sys is 5.2.3790.1830 which is really different but after install it shows, that it is changed to 100% to the acpi.sys driver from XP SP3 5.1.2600.5512 Dietmar |
| #207 | diderius6 | Hi, I extracted all 23 (!) Acpi tables via rw-everything from the XP-friendly Bios from Elmor from the Asus Apex X motherboard. The same I will do for the Acpi tables from the asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board. First then I make a short compare with each other. After this I replace one by one of the tables from the Apex board to the Bios of the Asrock via Uefi tool. Dont know, if this has a chance to work for XP Acpi on the Asrock board, Dietmar |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #207 I saw this bios, it is unusual, for diff OSes it create diff resource templates (XBUF vs BUF0) and rename fields, for winxp it select template without QWORDmemory region |
| #209 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | Dietmar, can you check c-states statistics on your cpu/mb combination ? p.s. i only know "throttlestop utility" to display such info |
| #210 | diderius6 | I think, the change of all the Acpi tables on the Asrock board is not a good idea. 23 tables for Asus Apex and 26 tables for Asrock. Because there is no flash back, you can desolder the chip, when something goes wrong. Desoldering would be not a problem, I have this Bios chip here in fresh. But I do not succeed to make an backup from all content of this Bios chip from Asrock Dietmar PS: I try "throttlestop utility" on the Apex X xp-friendly board. |
| #211 | diderius6 | The last version 8.4.8.0, which works for XP, shows: cpu not supported Dietmar EDIT: I found vers. 8.505. The exe file I copied to folder of version 8.7 and voila, works:)). diderius6 has attached images to this post |
| #212 | diderius6 | I try a new way:)). The error message from Windbg told, that there is a ressource conflict between PCI list via Acpi (somewhere in CRS_) and the list in Bios (without any acpi?) E820. Small hack in acpi.sys using Ida pro looking for the string "ACPIRangeValidatePciResources" and when it is not a real conflict, then this is all Dietmar |
| #213 | diderius6 | E820 from Apex boardRange Address Length Type E820 from the asrock board Range Address Length Type |
| #214 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #211 "works by default" very interesting why on gigabyte h110 acpi c2&c3 is broken in any OS |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #212 yes , it is possible, but better to step debug all ACPIRangeValidatePciResources, proc in not big hint: probably cmp al,1 - compare by resource type, 2 - irq 3 - mem 1 - i/o port E820 is just list of mem regions free/reserved, i dont understand how this list linked to pci mem resources or acpi mem resources e820 reported by bios int15 to windows loader acpi mem resources reported by enumeratung all devices in acpi code and call "_crs" to each pci mem resources reported by enumerating all devices on pci bus (but only if driver loaded and device enabled i think) |
| #216 | diderius6 | I think, if a region in the list of e820 is marked as reserved and Acpi wants to put a pci device there, exact this crash 0xA5, 0x02,.. happens, typedef struct _ACPI_BIOS_MULTI_NODE {Dietmar PS: Is it possible to edit the e820 list by hand? EDIT: It seems, that acpi.sys from XP SP3 only looks for RSDT, DSDT, FADT, FACS tables. EDIT2: I found, that the e820 table in win7 is a little bit different from that in XP. |
| #217 | diderius6 | The only difference in the allocation of memory via _crs between the Apex and the Asrock Bios is, that on the Apex board the declaration for high memory (64 bit) is missed for OSYS <0x07D9 (XP, Vista) QWordMemory (ResourceProducer, PosDecode, MinFixed, MaxFixed, NonCacheable, ReadWrite, |
| #218 | diderius6 | Hm, may be this is important: Via this way I think, XP comes in contact with the reserved word CreateQWordField, because the if else construction is not correct in the Bios from Gigabyte and Asrock, only on Apex board: Method (_CRS, 0, Serialized) // _CRS: Current Resource Settings |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #216 no, list generated by int15h handler in 16bit asm code but you can compare parsing result in xp and vista+ acpi.sys (ACPIRangeValidatePciResources) seems in xp very strict checking |
| #220 | diderius6 | May be I found the reason, why they introduce xbuf on the Apex board: The word QWordMemory is a reserved word. And it stands in buf0 but not in xbuf so XP can meet it on 64 bit Bios Dietmar |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #218 maybe this is problem too, on ivy this part is right:
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| #222 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | _yof is empty resource, even on win7 64, so lengh is always zero and this is not source of problem: ⇗ |
| #223 | diderius6 | Hi, I found with Ida pro and the acpi.pdb original file for my acpi.sys
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| #225 | diderius6 | :-), how can cmp [ebp+var_8], esi be set to be always true thanks Dietmar |
| #226 | diderius6 | Just delete this line "cmp [ebp+var_8], esi" and the compi always jump to "loc_1E0BB"? By the way, interesting, here you can see, how the BSOD 0xA5 is made;) Dietmar |
| #227 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #226 replace jz(XXh) => jmp (EBh) |
| #228 | diderius6 | Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa::::)))) nice work together;)! Dietmar diderius6 has attached images to this post |
| #229 | diderius6 | pm_timer on the Asrock board also does not work, only with customized hal switching to RTC clock, Dietmar |
| #230 | diderius6 | Hexeditor 75F87414FF75 -> 75F8EB14FF75 |
| #231 | diderius6 | When you start with the normal, unmodded DSDT table and the new acpi.sys on the Asrock board you get BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000011, 0x00000008, 0xB7B07200, 0x20160422) Interesting, that the teedriver.sys (yellow questionmark) does not work on the Asrock board under win7. May be, win7 has also problems with overlapping of Acpi PCI devices and the e820 table. With XP, no yellow questionmark is now left for all systemdevices, stable, fast, nice:)), lan, sound, nvme, USB3.1, serial com1, no extra pci-e card Dietmar EDIT: I am right: win7 is not able to ACPI Reclaim memory on the Asrock in e820 table, exact as XP. It may be a problem in main Bios. The problem are the low numbers in the e820 table in Asrock board 0000000000100000 0000000076873000 1:Available but Acpi asks for the same (higher) free memory as on the Apex board 0000000000100000 000000008004E000 1:Available |
| #232 | diderius6 | 000000008E732000 0000000000043000 3:ACPI Reclaim on Apex board in e820 and for Asrock: 000000007DFB0000 00000000003D5000 4:ACPI NVS on Asrock board in e820which is just mixed NVS <->Reclaim, according to the following: Type 3 "ACPI reclaimable" memory regions may be used like (and combined with) normal "available RAM" areas as long as you're finished using the ACPI tables that are stored there (i.e. it can be "reclaimed"). Types 2, 4, 5 (reserved, ACPI non-volatile, bad) mark areas that should be avoided when you are allocating physical memory. |
| #233 | diderius6 | And another strange thing on the Asrock board: in RSDT ACPI Table Address 0 : 7DFB0180 in XSDT ACPI Table Address 0 : 000000007DFD9FA8 the other tables in RSDT, XSDT have identic numbers, only number 0 above not. Nearly the same happens on the Apex board. EDIT: Correct is always the value in the XSDT table. |
| #234 | diderius6 | With the customized acpi.sys I get on the Apex X board with newest Bios 1801 BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000011, 0x00000008, 0xB7AB6200, 0x20160422) nearly the same as on the Asrock board. This means, Asus gives up XP friendly Bios and now it has to be patched preventing reserved word from Acpi 2.0 exact like the Bios from Gigabyte, Asrock.. Dietmar PS: I think, that now all DSDT tables can be made XP friendly! EDIT: When I flash back to the Bios from Elmor for the Apex X board, the compi starts also with the customized acpi.sys, meaning new acpi.sys do nothing bad. |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #234 _ACPIInitializeDDB after calling _AMLILoadDDB _AMLILoadDDB call "Load" of each table in rsdt list *imho* |
| #236 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD the 3. place in this BSOD is the Pointer to the table that ACPI failed to load. Is it an generalic message, that any of the table(s) listet in RSDT have an error? What does "ACPI failed to load" mean: checksum incorrect, table not at this place.. I do not find any related to the adress B7AB6200. In the e820 list this memory space is also not listet. It is not an overlap in memory, Dietmar EDIT: I found with Ida pro, that for example checksum of table from RSDT failed before BSOD A5 (0x11..). |
| #237 | diderius6 | full XP Acpi support with newest Bios 1801 on the APEX X board^^. And this without any modification of Bios, Dietmar diderius6 has attached images to this post |
| #238 | diderius6 | 75F87414FF -> 75F8EB14FF 84C07508FF -> 84C0EB08FF 59597C21A1 -> 59597C00A1 |
| #239 | diderius6 | On Compis, with XP Acpi unfriendly Bios you still have to disable reserved words from Acpi2.0. I tested this on my Asrock board with the original DSDT table. Again I get the well known BSOD because of XP unknow words 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxxx, 0xС0140001, yyyy) Dietmar |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #238 you dont know what table generate error and what inside table is problem skip error handling is not very good solution ) |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #236 3rd argument can point to anything in RAM, it just hint to human (or some util) who save full memory dump checksum error is a5 (0x11, 0x7), you have error with _AMLILoadDDB maybe it load table, then parse aml codes, then do some else, who knows... |
| #242 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD I think, when you really want to know what is going on, so to skip the error message is best what you can do, because now you can use the full set of commands from windbg and amli. In the real situation. Before I was not able for example to have a look at the pcitree. When I see, that on the Asrock board win7 also cant save memory for Acpi, the situation is there the same as for xp. What can happen bad? I think, the tables from Acpi have no influence to anything, can be just deleted if they are loaded once. And the device works or not. Dietmar PS: Interesting, if there is a difference in the acpi.sys from xp, vista, win7, win8, win10 or if they are all nearly the same. The Bios is for all of them identic, also for Linux or Macintosh. Real errors in the Acpi tables will appear everywhere. And xp can live without any Acpi. All what gives those A5 BSODs here is a conflict between the Acpi in Bios and the "Acpi" from xp. EDIT: I noticed, that on the Apex X board with the Bios 1801 for Apex X all works better than before with Bios mod from Apex IX. This belongs to XP and win10, because now nothing is changed in Bios. EDIT2: Have a look, how stupid acpi.sys looks at this Acpi tables: If the checksum for example is ok.. ⇗ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/cor...ws-xp-machines/ |
| #243 | diderius6 | I noticed a really crazy
behavior on the Asrock board (called from rw-everything direct in Bios,
because Acpi in XP at this time not works) Before hack acpi.sys RSDT: After hack and XP writes to its registry (means build new (!)) RSDT The checksum changes and all adresses. This simple means, in the fight of AcpiBios against XPAcpi, XP ignores Bios and lift all adresses. The relation between tables changes also. Dietmar EDIT: This brings me to the idea, how to make any Bios XP Acpi friendly. XP tells you, what to do:)! |
| #244 | diderius6 | On the Apex Board XP now generates with 3 steps modified acpi.sys also own new RSDT table, but very similar to RSDT table before, dictated from Bios. The pm_timer again not works. So this belongs to Bios, how it treats timer, Dietmar |
| #245 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #237 can this be replicated for other boards? I'm very interested in this. |
| #246 | diderius6 | yes |
| #247 | diderius6 | Recept on post 238 works also for english version of acpi.sys in XP SP3, XP SP2, XP SP1, XP SP0 (gold) Dietmar |
| #248 | diderius6 | but in single core speed it is faster than 9900k Dietmar diderius6 has attached images to this post |
| #249 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #243 I was wrong about _AMLILoadDDB, it load only one table - DSDT ! _AMLILoadDDB-> _LoadDDB-> -> _ValidateTable -> _NewObjOwner -> _PushCall -> _PushScope -> _SyncLoadDDB one of subproc probably return nonzero => _AMLILoadDDB generate 0xA5 kernelfault 0x000000A5 (0x00000011, 0x00000008, 0xB7B07200, 0x20160422) 0x20160422 - Compiler Version 0xB7B07200 - pointer to DSDT in memory |
| #250 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #247 any chance i could get a copy of your acpi.sys mod to try out for myself? |
| #251 | diderius6 | Hi, it is german version, so it will not work. Open with Hexeditor your acpi.sys and look for Hex values in post 238, change them Dietmar PS: I just succeed to slipstream with nlite boot CD, installed XP SP3 direct to nvme disk on Asrock board. Nice, full boottime is now 3 sec:)). |
| #252 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #251 OK, Thanks |
| #253 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD I just see, that you updated your list for XP. ACPI BSOD: .......... 0xA5 (0x03, X, 0xС0140001, Z) ACPI 2.0 syntax, 99% solved (custom acpi.sys) This acpi.sys I have not seen until now;) Dietmar |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #253 I dont plan public it yet, sorry |
| #255 | diderius6 | I have found already:) Dietmar EDIT: With Acpi A5 errors I solved all, only problem is now, that my bootdevice is gone with BSOD 0x7B, I think most famous BSOD in history:)), Dietmar PS: Hm, what can make ACPI with underlying wrong DSDT table (reserved words from Acpi2.0), that the boot device is gone? The boot device has to be rescued, other is unimportand. One step.. and 0xA5 Acpi error is history. EDIT2: Oh, it seems to be nice antihack in acpi.sys from Microsoft, against people like me^^. |
| #256 | diderius6 | Hihi, I try other way:)).. |
| #257 | diderius6 | XP SP3 words acpiDebug XOr Wait ToBCD Subtract Store SizeOf ShiftRight ShiftLeft RefOf B Package OSI Or ObjectType Not NOr NAnd Multiply CBCBCC Match LOr LNot LLess LGreater LEqual CC LAnd Index Increment FromBCD FindSetRightBit CS FindSetLeftBit CCSS Divide DerefOf Decrement sS CondRefOf Concatenate Buffer And CCS Add SW Acquire While Unload Stall Sleep Signal Return Reset S Release SC Notify NoOp NS Load C If BDC Fatal Else BreakPoint Break NBDB NBW PowerResource NBCC OperationRegion Mutex Method NNB IndexField NB Field Event Device CreateWordField CCCN CreateField CreateDWordField CreateByteField CCN CreateBitField NNCB BankField N Scope NO Name NN Alias Vista words acpi Debug XOr Wait ToString ToInteger ToHexString ToDecimalString ToBuffer ToBCD Timer Subtract Store SizeOf ShiftRight ShiftLeft RefOf B Package OSI Or ObjectType Not NOr NAnd Multiply Mod CCCS Mid CBCBCC Match LOr CCCCCC LoadTable LNot LLess LGreater LEqual CC LAnd Index Increment FromBCD FindSetRightBit FindSetLeftBit CCSS Divide DerefOf Decrement CS CopyObject sS CondRefOf ConcatenateResTemplate Concatenate Buffer And CCS Add SW Acquire While Unload Stall Sleep Signal Return Reset S Release SC Notify NoOp NS Load C If BDC Fatal Else Continue BreakPoint Break NBDB NBW PowerResource NBCC OperationRegion Mutex Method NNB IndexField NB Field Event Device CreateWordField CCCN CreateField CreateQWordField CreateDWordField CreateByteField CCN CreateBitField NNCB BankField N Scope NO Name NN Alias 13 words, which amli interpreter has to learn Dietmar |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #257 14 QwordConst , it's not keyword, but it has own bytecode, some like var = 0x1111222233334444 |
| #259 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD in a first try I set only one reserved word "ToInteger" before word "Debug" in acpi.sys of XP. Do you think it is possible? My problem is, that there are 2 offsetvalues: .rdata:000348A4 aTointeger db 'ToInteger',0 ; DATA XREF: .data:off_37820 thanks a lot Dietmar |
| #260 | diderius6 | YesssssssssssssssssssssssssaaaaaaahHHHHh:)) I succeed to integrate reserved word "ToInteger" in amli interpreter in acpi.sys from XP SP3. This is for me like I reach a new level, what a crazy work, Dietmar PS: I understand, how the amli interpreter works and also, how it is implemented. The test I did: On the Asrock board I installed the original Bios. With acpistep3.sys I get there the the BSOD for "reserved words" 0xA5 (0x03, X, 0xС0140001, Z) Then I put in my modded DSDT table all the "ToInteger" words back, that I eliminated before. And it boots:))! |
| #261 | diderius6 | CreateQWordField I cant integrate in acpi.sys of XP SP3 until now. It seems, that the Interpreter amli from XP cant build an 64 Bit field. Vista can, the version from Vista from May 2005 (Longhorn) also cant. The error message BSOD has changed. The remaining reserved words in DSDT, that you have to isolate by hand in DSDT are now CreateQWordField , QWordMemory, CopyObject. This lasts about 5 min:)). BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, X, 0xC0000034, Y) Dietmar |
| #262 | diderius6 | Here are my DSDT tables for the Asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board. Dsdt is original and DSDT2 is modded table, which works in XP SP3 with the acpi.sys driver with only 3 small changes, as I write here before. Not so much differences are left, when you take a look at. Now I look at the C0, C1, C2.. states, because I noticed, that 70 % of time the compi is in C0 state, gives about 50 Watt without any load, brrr:)), Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #263 | diderius6 | Here is my try with Ida pro for reserved word CreateQwordField. I did a nice hack, because its name is so long I deleted ShiftRight and ShiftLeft in acpi.sys of XP SP3 (because they do not appear in Bios) and connected them afterwards:)). The values I take from Vista. .rdata:0002B7D8 aCreateqwordfie db 'CreateQWordField',0 ; DATA XREF: .data:off_2D190 o |
| #264 | diderius6 | Now I think, it belongs to the integration of CreateQWordField in acpi.sys from XP. May be, I did something wrong (I noticed, that the "align" mark is gone, and I got instead 7 zeros). Or maybe, the amli Interpreter can not work at all with 64 Bit Dietmar The driver acpi.sys with the integrated CreateQWordField shows BSOD, even when no CreateQWordField is in the DSDT table. This was other with integrated "ToInteger" reserved word in acpi.sys. PS: It seems, that my Ida pro version can not generate *.sys files for XP. Is there a program, which can do this? |
| #265 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #264 maybe try relyze to reassemble? - ⇗ https://www.relyze.com/overview.html also, you might want to try CFF Explorer - ⇗ https://ntcore.com/?page_id=388 to realign the file and recalculate the checksums after you edit the file |
| #266 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #262 welcome to club ) check pm |
| #267 | diderius6 | May be this hack will work: DefCreateDWordField := CreateDWordFieldOp SourceBuff ByteIndex NameString CreateDWordFieldOp := 0x8A DefCreateQWordField := CreateQWordFieldOp SourceBuff ByteIndex NameString CreateQWordFieldOp := 0x8F --> 0x8A Dietmar EDIT: Or even more easy, change in DSDT table CreateQWordField --> CreateDWordField This I will test now. EDIT: Both ideas do not work on Asrock board. |
| #268 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD I do not take notice about the 70% in C0 state, because I work with a Celeron. There the powerconsumption is always low. This changes a lot with 8700k. It is like a test for good cooler;) Dietmar |
| #269 | diderius6 | This powerconsumption I like much more:))! Very interesting, how you reached this, which programs you use. I think it would be a whole course in programming Dietmar EDIT: ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Did you use this? "You're on the right track for Windows XP. If you read the documentation for the PROCESSOR_POWER_POLICY structure (⇗ http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/...v=vs.85%29.aspx), you'll notice next to DisableCStates that it says "Reserved; set to zero." In other words, you can't use that. Skip down to the section under Policy and read what it has to say. You have to disable the individual C-states that offend you:" Policy[0].AllowPromotion = 1 Policy[1].AllowPromotion = 0; // Disable's C2 Policy[2].AllowPromotion = 0; // Disable's C3 diderius6 has attached images to this post |
| #270 | diderius6 | To integrate the reserved word "ToInteger" in acpi.sys from XP SP3 works. It has also the correct code, DefToInteger := ToIntegerOp Operand Target ToIntegerOp := 0x99 Dietmar |
| #271 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #269 No, i already wrote about power states on my skylake - acpi C2/C3 hardware (or bios or some poor documented bios setting) is broken for any OS, only cpu still can do it (itself, two asm commands, without external dependies). windows think that platform support c2/c3 and use it, but cpu do not enter these modes properly and windows never know what doing a semi-useless job (30-40% cpu in power saving mode, thank for this at least) |
| #272 | diderius6 | When I integrate (to 100% correct) the reserved word from Acpi2.0 "CopyObject" with code 9Dh in acpi.sys from XP SP3 I get the famous BSOD 0x0000007B (0xB84C7524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) which is is not direct related to Acpi Dietmar EDIT: Now I think, via this way you can find all the reserved words, when acpi.sys XP SP3 meet them, crashes. The other reserved words, for example ToInteger, are just ignored from amli XP SP3. |
| #273 | diderius6 | This is, what amli interpreter Acpi1 understands:ACPI Machine Language (AML) Specification 16-257 |
| #274 | diderius6 | And this in Acpi 2:AML Byte Stream Byte Values |
| #275 | diderius6 | Hi, in eventmanager from XP on the Asrockboard I get this message: AMLI: ACPI-BIOS versucht, einen ungültigen Speicherbereich "OpRegion" bei Adresse 0x5000 mit einer Länge von 0x1000 zu erstellen. Dieser Bereich fällt in den vom Betriebssystem geschützten Speicheradressbereich (0x0 - 0x9c400). This is nice, because now I know the device, that is doing the problem from the very first beginning with overlapping memory from e820 table and Acpi, it is the serial COM 1 port, ACPI\PNP0501 listet in DSDT for the Asrock Bios with
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| #276 | diderius6 | Hi, I make a test, if it is possible to give during start XP another list of Acpi tables than those Acpi tables, written in Bios. Yesssssaaahh, it can be done:))! I change with Winhex in XP in the registry of the Asrock board in hardware\Acpi\FADT the binary code for the timer A5C40300 against A5440300. Then I shut the compi down. Normally, at boottime always the Acpi tables are written new via Bios (means 44 --> C4), I tested this. Winserver 2003 looks at Bios for DSDT, FADT.. but XP looks at registry. This XP I copy file by file to a kangaroo USB stick, which can be set write protect. Then I change with Winhex the first 512 Bit (MBR) of the kangoroo against the first 512 Bit MBR of the harddisk. This is the nice trick from s4e. Then I set the kangoroo to write protect, choose via F11 the bootmenue of the Asrock board and start from the writeprotected kangoroo. Because the USB stick has no drivers for USB, after first boot the contact is lost and because the signatur and everything else is exact the same as from harddrive, XP now choses the harddisk and boots to XP. In registry on harddisk Bios has rewritten like normal 44 --> C4 in FADT. But the to ram loaded registry from kangoroo has at this place still the 44 code. So, the normall hal.dll thinks via "Bios" make use of the RTC timer and so without customized hal.dll the clock works Dietmar |
| #277 | diderius6 | Hi, does somebody know, why it is not possible to do USB boot to XP since z170 chipset? usbstor.sys is needed and usbd.sys, it can be given by hand, I do. I know, that there are no drivers vor the Intel USB devices. This is so strange. But for example on the Asus z87i-pro I can boot XP from the Asmedia chip ASM1042 with 300 Mbyte/s from usb stick. And the drivers for ASM1142, 2142, 3142 work all with XP Dietmar |
| #278 | diderius6 | I set up a windbg session on the Asrock board with USB 3.1chip ASM3142, for to see, what is going on. I boot XP SP3 from an WD harddisk, 2 TB formatted with Fat32, which boots my Asus z87i-pro board from USB with Asmedia ASM1042 chip . Before I put there the newest drivers vers. 1.16.54.1 for all asmedia chips on this usb harddisk. Still it boots the z87i-pro board. By the way, the brandnew driver 1.16.55.1 from Asmedia gives on XP bluesreen. Here is the result:
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| #279 | diderius6 | I see, that the needed drivers for USB all start very early exact as I want, setting in registry start = 0 and group System Reserved. But VEN_1B21&DEV_0612, which is the AHCI controller from Asmedia does not start (normal, because no driver, but unimportant, because we boot from USB device) and VEN_1B21&DEV_2142 which stands for the USB 3.1chip "ASM3142" also not, which is probably the reason for BSOD 0x7B here, but I do not understand why this happens, because all other drivers started as you can see and when boot from normal harddisk, this Asmedia ASM3142 works on XP SP3 Dietmar |
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| #281 | diderius6 | Problem = CM_PROB_NOT_CONFIGURED Aha, this may be the reason, because the ASM3142 is not the ASM1042, even they use the same drivers. Needs to feed registry from XP with correct values for ASM3142 Dietmar |
| #282 | diderius6 | Not works. I doublechecked all the handmade entries in registry. The Asus z87i-pro board boots at once to USB3 (300MByte/s) with this entries, but the Asrock z370 board not. Something other is preventing USB boot on Asmedia chip ASM3142 on the Asrock board. Any help is welcome. Here are the registry entries from usbstor, asmtxhci and asmthub3. They can be used to make XP USB3 boot work Dietmar
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| #283 | diderius6 | Small successDevNode 0x89c03ee8 for PDO 0x89c042e0 Only usbstor is loaded, but does not start Dietmar 0: kd> !devnode usbstor |
| #284 | diderius6 | : kd> lm |
| #285 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Dietmar, Z87/Z97 and possibly X99 is the last chipset to work using on XP with USB on Intel USB ports. SkyLake removed the eHCI which killed off USB 2.0 that XP understands. This is the reason why only a pure Intel USB 3.0 xHCI driver is necessary to boot XP off SkyLake, Kaby Lake, and Coffee Lake from Intel USB 3.0 xHCI ports. Even the USB 2.0 fake ports will not function. I thought you had no issues booting from a USB Flash Drive to XP on Z170, Z270, Z370, Z390 Chipsets using Asmedia USB port? What is the importance of you booting XP off NVMe? Can you boot to Windows 2000 or 98SE DOS off this NVMe like SATA can? Also Server 2003 boots in 3-6 seconds for me off SATA. Would be faster operation if we image XP to SSD and load XP image from SSD to the Ramdrive to boot. |
| #286 | diderius6 | I can use all the Asmedia chips in XP. And few days ago I believed, that also boot XP from USB3 was no problem, because this summer I tested this one time on the nice Asus z87i-pro board and it works at once. Now I see, that the problem is, that usbstor.sys does not like to start on chipsets >=z170 for some strange reasons. It is not clear for me. The driver has an coinstaller, but when you once have made the harddisk usb friendly with this coinstaller, where is the problem? No board from Skylake, Kabylake, Coffee lake works until now for USB boot for XP as I have to see. Even the Apex X board, which can boot nearly everything, does not start usbstor.sys. There is a strange connection between usbstor.sys and usbd.sys, one cant live without the other. Long time ago I make some test with win98SE. I can boot it via USB:)), but this was 10 years and more ago. Now the only chance for USB boot is the method from s4e, have a look at reboot.pro I tested it there for older motherboards with no NVME support at all and it works on nearly all boards, even 10 years old. The s4e method works for ANY driver Dietmar |
| #287 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 But you tested NVMe only for XP? Can you boot to Windows 2000 or 98SE DOS off the NVMe like a SATA SSD can? I already know USB can boot 98SE that's always worked for me but what about the NVMe? |
| #288 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives for this you need a driver nvme. Very hard job, to make this work in XP. Now we have, thanks a lot to Kai. And until now I have not seen anybody with booting XP direct via nvme with this driver, only me. Kai make this for win2003. When somebody is good in C programming, it is possible to write a driver nvme.sys for the scsiport modell. Then, ntboodd will work also and you have nvme from XP on any compi, Dietmar |
| #289 | diderius6 | With s4e method it works DevNode 0x89c39bb0 for PDO 0x89c39e50 InstancePath is "PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_2142&SUBSYS_21421849&REV_00\3&37f6853e&0&00E4" ServiceName is "asmtxhci" State = DeviceNodeStarted (0x308) Previous State = DeviceNodeStarted (0x308) DevNode 0x87c69338 for PDO 0x87c6c478 InstancePath is "USB\ASMEDIAROOT_Hub\4&290a3674&0&0" ServiceName is "asmthub3" State = DeviceNodeStarted (0x308) Previous State = DeviceNodeStarted (0x308) DevNode 0x87c598d8 for PDO 0x87c5c7c8 InstancePath is "USB\VID_1058&PID_25A2\57584631414237524541354A" ServiceName is "USBSTOR" State = DeviceNodeStarted (0x308) Previous State = DeviceNodeEnumerateCompletion (0x30d) DevNode 0x87a7d5d0 for PDO 0x87a8a0d0 InstancePath is "USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_WD&Prod_Elements_25A2&Rev_1021\57584631414237524541354A&0" ServiceName is "disk" State = DeviceNodeStarted (0x308) Previous State = DeviceNodeEnumerateCompletion (0x30d) |
| #290 | diderius6 | first direct USB3.1 boot on the Asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board Dietmar EDIT: Just boot from Kanguru USB stick. EDIT2: USB3.1 boot via SSD and full Acpi support on the Asrock board feels very fast. diderius6 has attached images to this post |
| #291 | diderius6 | Hi, is there a generic Bios patch, that allows to start the ehci (USB 2) driver on XP, Vista? Dietmar |
| #292 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 I noticed a few issues. I always enjoy seeing your bare bones test bed. But maybe add a cardboard box underneath MB to protect the desk from unnecessary scratching. On the BIOS go to the iGPU change shared memory from 1.5GB to 32MB. Some MB only allow 64MB or 128MB minimum. No need to suck up 1GB+ memory from OS. Intel HD Graphics 4200+, 530+ don't support XP so it is wasted entirely. I use 32MB only on the Ivy Bridge with the HD 4000 and it is a beauty. ;) 3.43GB of RAM available on mine. If someone can make Intel HD Graphics 630 emulate HD 4000 compatibility then we have a gold mine. 1.94GB of RAM available is too much lost!!! (1.49GB? That means 1.5GB shared memory) Integrated Graphics Disable Auto Memory and set manual to the lowest possible. For benchmark install Gavotte Ramdisk and repeat the Crystal DiskMark 3GB Ramdisk test. :) |
| #293 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives I do not use any linux for this USB 3.1 boot. Only the 2 original drivers ASMedia USB 3.0+3.1 Drivers v1.16.54.1 WHQL for Win7 for the Asmedia chip and set in each *.inf StartType = 0 LoadOrderGroup = System Reserved Then I put all USB.sys from XP SP3 files into directory Windows\system32\drivers. Also in all its *.inf I set the same values as above and copy all *.inf to Windows\inf folder. Two things are important: 1.) After you installed the Asmedia driver, you have to connect your USB device to the 3.1 USB port. When it is recogniced, look in registry, if HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\usbstor ist set to start=0 and Group System Reserved. The entry for Group you need to do by hand. The same you have to look for the two entries of the asmedia drivers there: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\asmtxhci [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\asmthub3] Now comes the part, which makes me like crazy: The usbstor.sys driver only starts, when it sees another drive from the boot device. It is like the cat bites in its tail, when the boot device is usb. 2.) But small trick helps: Connect any other usb device to the same 3.1 chip, asmedia has 2 ports. An USB mouse can do this job. During boot, the usb boot device "sees" its partner and only then starts usbstor.sys. And then it uses usbstor.sys for itself:)) Dietmar |
| #294 | diderius6 | Hi all, I just ordered EVGA Z390 Dark motherboard via Amazon. I will install there ACPI XP with really all drivers for XP, given the real power and make a compare with Win10^^ Dietmar PS: I just hear, that wine 4 works with DirectX 12. |
| #295 | diderius6 | Just in this moment my EVGA Z390 Dark motherboard arrives from USA. Now fun starts with XP on it, have a nice sunny day, Dietmar |
| #296 | diderius6 | Evga presents an XP friendly Bios with full ACPI support for the z390 dark 1E399092.bin Dietmar |
| #297 | diderius6 | After very good results for speed test in any situation, and long life, I just ordered an Intel Optane SSD 905P 960GB, PCIe 3.0 x4 (SSDPED1D960GAX1) and will install XP SP3 on nvme on it. In few days I report about, Dietmar |
| #298 | diderius6 | Oha, I just noticed, that the timer in the original XP Bios from EVGA for the z390 dark motherboard not works. And also compi stays always in C0 state, brrr. And the most crazy thing: This happens also in Win10, power consumption on 9900k always about 27 Watt.. Now I chance all against my modified acpi.sys hal.dll intelppm.sys and all is nice: Full ACPI support with Hyperthreading, Timer works, powerconsumption on 9900k about 2 Watt:)). This simple means, we, Mov AX, 0xDEAD and me Dietmar are better ![]() Dietmar |
| #299 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #298 any chance i could try out your modified drivers for myself? or PM me the necessary hex edits you did for me to test the edits myself? |
| #300 | RayeR | Hi, very interesting thread and congrats to diderius6 for his effort and reporting progress. Just an idea, instead of patching ACPI tables (which may get harder and harden in the future) would be possible to replace AMLI - acpi.sys by opensource counterpart from ReactOS? It seems they use ACPICA and it should be much more up to date than obsolete WXP original file. But I can imagine that it would be a hard work, probably the kernel intrface of ROS is not exactly same as WXP... I also read somewhere that years ago some part of MS Windows sources had leaked (not sure if it was W2K/XP or other version) so if we could get acpi.sys sources it would be possibe to upgreade to implement newer 2.0 functions. If not maybe still possible to write some driver/filter that will be called before acpi.sys it will transform necessary things 2.0 to 1.0 and pass it further to original aspi.sys. But just thinking no idea if such hook possible and how hard to code it... I personally still run old good Sandybridge on a compatible MB but good luck to your work. |
| #301 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ RayeR im Beitrag ¶ #300 MS uses own implementation of acpi and it very far from acpica, and yes, acpi.sys is not just acpi driver, it also implement some pnp/pci/resource functions and connected with kernel/hal Zitat von ⇗ RayeR im Beitrag ¶ #300 - part of nt4 and win200 sources leaked, mainly user-mode, drivers not leaked - this is impossible because we cannot emulate new commands by old acpi 1.0 syntax. we cannot skip new commands because logic will destroyed |
| #302 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD May be it is possible, to modify acpi.sys from XP in this way, that it just ignores the 3 keywords, which gives BSOD. CopyObject CreateQWordField QwordConst Another, really hard way would be, to teach acpi.sys the 14 words from Acpi 2.0, have a nice evening, Dietmar |
| #303 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #302 hard but possible, it may take some weeks digging in IDA if you know 80386 asm |
| #304 | diderius6 | Today I make a new acpi.sys for XP SP3 32 bit. It works on AMD, Intel motherboards, for all languages, Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #305 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Oh, I just see, that you updated your acpi.sys for XP SP3 32 bit, so that the error 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxxx, 0xС0140001, yyyy) is gone. This patch would be really nice, because this means no modding of Bios any longer needed because of unknown ACPI 2.0 words Dietmar PS: With simple unconditional forced jmp (EB) I overcome 0x000000A5 (0x00000011, ... 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, ... 0x000000A5 (0x00002001, ... 0x000000A5 (0x00000008, ... But this does not work for error 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, ... Until now, I do not noticed any side effects, but who knows^^.. |
| #306 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | Exploring acpi.sys on Windows Longhorn betas: 4008 - integers are 32 bit, support most of acpi 2.0 opcodes (except CopyObject, Timer, QWordConst) *** 4042 - last version with 32 bit integers 4051 - first version with 64 bit integers *** 4074 - support new opcode CopyObject *** 5048 - import table match win xp !!! *** 5342 - support new opcode Timer and QWordConst, PDB published on Microsoft SYMBOL Server 5365 - integers are 32/64 (switched depending revision of DSDT table, V1=32, V2=64), added Dynamic conversion of types, PDB published Qemu Acpi 1.0 tests: 5048 + WinXP = acpi correct 5048 + Longhorn = acpi correct Qemu Acpi 2.0 tests: 5048, 5112, 5219 = bsod 0xA5 (0x14, xxx, 0x8A, yyy) 5259 = random bsods with error code or without 5342 = acpi correct, installer unstable 5365 = acpi correct Skylake Acpi 2.0 hardware: 4008<->5342= bsod 0xA5 (0x03, xxx, C0140008, yyy) 5365 = acpi correct |
| #307 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD "i'e played little with longhorn betas:" Yesss, the idea is clear because 100% match of problem. Only, how to overcome this, is other question Dietmar |
| #308 | RayeR | Hi, thanks for clarification. Just a question to this statement: " this is impossible because we cannot emulate new commands by old acpi 1.0 syntax" I don't know how much new and old ACPI differs but I belive it should be possible to emulate new functions by old functions. E.g. if there was added some function to work with 64bit operands it could be broken to 32bit operations in osme auxiliary function. Like in C I could code my own libC functions with bare C code or old libC functions to implement new libC functions. But maybe I'm wrong and new ACPI is too different... BTW another idea that could help with managing of your ACPI patches. I found that Apple MAC comunity uses a nice tool called MACiASL. It bundles iALS with some editor, patch engine and GUI. The idea is you can create text file patches for specific BIOS/motherboard to share and contribute by other users. They can then choose and download specific patches and apply them to theirs own DSDT (or could be on BIOS image for this purpose). Some patterns that needs to be replaced are generic in various BIOS ACPI tables so this can save some work and could extend patches for other motherboards... ⇗ http://www.macbreaker.com/2014/03/how-to...th-maciasl.html |
| #309 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ RayeR im Beitrag ¶ #308 this method is low effective, since the skylake+ bioses has a huge number of new acpi 2.0 commands in many places and the generic patterns will have to replace a lot of lines with their acpi 1.0 equivalents, which still need to be written. |
| #310 | diderius6 | History of Windows Vista ( aka Longhorn) is really interesting:)). It started in 1999 (!) on the files from XP. Later, they make a mix of XP and Winserver 2003, which makes it instabil. After version 4094 they make a brake and decided to take only Win2003 SP1 as base for Vista. So, Vista is an ideal candidate for XP SP4^^ Dietmar |
| #311 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Have you tried Longhorn versions > 5048 for import table match XP? They are still downloadable Dietmar PS: 5384? EDIT: Nice, 5048 boots XP SP3 ![]() |
| #312 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #311 vista beta2, big mismath import table like usual vista |
| #313 | diderius6 | Make try with ⇗ https://winworldpc.com/product/windows-l...-vis/post-reset Dietmar |
| #314 | diderius6 | Latest Windows Longhorn (6.0.5840.16384) (rc2) does not work, needs other ntoskernel, Dietmar Edit: 5536, 5384, 5342 the same, also not work. PS: 5048 on normal Bios vers. 106 on EVGA z390 dark gives the same BSOD as for you 0xA5 (0x03, xxx, C0140008, yyy) This sounds like, that least one vocabel from the DSDT table acpi.sys 5048 does not like. But this is a big step forward. Ok, small hack, that compi jumps over this deathzone:)) gives now 0x000000A5 (0x00010006, ..., ..., ...) EDIT2: Next Hack with jump over next deathzone, now compi hangs during boot after drvmain.sdb , yes this hangs at acpi.sys AppPatch/drvmain.sdb DRIVERS/ACPI.sys |
| #315 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | ¶ Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts (21) |
| #316 | diderius6 | I can install normal (my own) Vista 32 bit on the EVGA dark z390 motherboard with Bios 106, without any BSOD (no mouse, brrr:-)). So they change something in Acpi from version 5048 to last Vista 2006. This means, there is hope for XP SP4 (Vista^^) Dietmar PS: The Bios 106 from the EVGA board contains the ACPI 2.0 words QwordMemory (and QwordAcc). This may be the reason for BSOD, because this words do not appear in the Assembler Source of acpi.sys 5084 (Qword...). |
| #317 | diderius6 | Microsoft Windows Vista (''Longhorn'' 6.0.5270.9) acpi.sys some changes in Hal.dll and ntoskrnl.exe Dietmar EDIT: Also some changes needed for acpi.sys in hal.dll and ntoskrnl.exe for Windows Vista (''Longhorn'' 6.0.5259.0) , the same for Microsoft Windows Vista (''Longhorn'' 6.0.5231.0), Microsoft Windows Vista (''Longhorn'' 6.0.5219.0) Microsoft Windows Vista (''Longhorn'' 6.0.5112.0) Microsoft Windows Vista (''Longhorn'' 6.0.5365.8) Microsoft Windows Vista (''Longhorn'' 6.0.5472.5) |
| #318 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | .del |
| #319 | diderius6 | The ACPI 2.0 word Qword.. I do not find in any acpi.sys. Only the word CreateQwordField. So, this are 2 different vocabularies, Dietmar PS: An the Asus Apex 10 Bios there was a work around as I remember for XP and Vista for the Qword.. but not for CreateQwordField. |
| #320 | diderius6 | When I try to install Vista (calls itself Longhorn^^) 5048 via DVD on real Evga dark z390 with Bios 106 motherboard, I get in the very beginning the same BSOD as under XP: 0xA5 (0x03, xxx, C0140008, yyy) So, it is related to this acpi.sys from 5048 Dietmar PS: Now hard works start, to find the first Vista, which installs Vista without this BSOD on this board. Then you compare this acpi.sys with this BSOD as above vs first acpi.sys without this BSOD, all under Vista setup. |
| #321 | diderius6 | Yepp ,Microsoft Windows Vista (''Longhorn'' 6.0.5472.5) installs Vista 32 Bit without BSOD on real Evga dark z390 with Bios 106 Dietmar |
| #322 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #321 5342.2 - bsod 5365.8 - ? 5381.1 - ? 5384.4 - acpi corect |
| #323 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #319 #define AML_QWORD_OP 0x0e you will never found it, because it has no text presentation, it is opcode for storing 64 bit integer constants see amlcode.h, it show all you need |
| #324 | diderius6 | 5384.4 acpi correct I can just confirm:)), 5365.8 acpi also correct, so this is the very first version without any BSOD 5342.2 - same BSOD as before, I just can confirm. This is last version of Vista with BSOD. Dietmar |
| #325 | diderius6 | A difference, that I can see at once between this 2 acpi.sys is, that the Acpi.sys which works, has extra connections to ntoskrnl.exe via ETW EventEnabled ETW Register ETW Write Dietmar PS: But I do not think, that this is the reason why no BSOD. |
| #326 | diderius6 | I changed in acpi.sys (5048)8BFF558BEC8B4D0C85C98B45148B50187D218B550885D289482074058B4210EB0233C0 5051526A0368A5000000FF154C620300C74018020000005283C01050E836FFFFFF5DC3 against (from acpi.sys 5365) 8BFF558BEC8B4D0C85C98B45148B50187D218B550885D289482074058B4210EB0233C0 5051526A0368A5000000FF15AC420300C74018020000005283C01050E850FFFFFF5DC3 But this gives during start of XP SP3 BSOD 0x7B Dietmar EDIT: This you can forget: This BSOD routine is absolut identic, only the adresses changed. |
| #327 | diderius6 | The 5048 acpi.sys boots the Asus Apex X (Bios 1901) XP SP3 with full Acpi support without any modification. So, for some motherboards no hack at all is needed in acpi.sys. About the Asus board: They isolate Qword.. in Bios for XP and Vista. So, may be the Amli Interpreter has a problem with this word. And it has been undiscovered in so many versions of Vista, because 2006 was no Bios with Acpi 2.0 on the market Dietmar PS: Idea from this is: What did change in Amli Interpreter from version 5342.2 to 5365.8 . My favorit is QwordConstant. If we cant overcome this: The only word in DSDT what has to be isolatet is Qword.. And this would be in the same time the test, if the idea about Qword is right. EDIT: The problem with timer (needs modified hal.dll) and with Power states (needs modified intelppm.sys) is the same as before with 5048 acpi.sys. So, this acpi.sys solves only BSOD A5. |
| #328 | diderius6 | New acpi.sys for XP SP3 32 bit, all languages and compis. Please tell me results for making things better Dietmar EDIT: The problem is more complex: On my asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 with acpi.sys 5048 I get again BSOD 0xA5 (0x03, xxx, C0140008, yyy). And in its Bios I isolated ALL CreateQwordField and CopyObject instructions. EDIT2: The problem may be really in QwordConstant: acpi.sys from XP has no problem with this word. But acpi.sys 5048 has. This I know, because in DSDT table from the asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 there appear QwordMemory and QwordAcc. I do not isolate them. XP boots. And may be because of QwordMemory and QwordAcc BSOD 0xA5 (0x03, xxx, C0140008, yyy) with acpi.sys 5084 on the Asrock board. So, at the moment, acpi.sys 5084 is worse than my modded acpi.sys before. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #329 | diderius6 | acpi.sys from Windows Vista (Longhorn) 3683 also match all dependencies from ntoskrnl.exe and hal.dll but it is from 2002 (!) and looks like XP pur, Dietmar |
| #330 | diderius6 | acpi.sys from Microsoft Windows Vista (''Longhorn'' 6.0.4011.0) gives during Vista install on my Asrock board the known error 0xA5 (0x2..). This BSOD I know, it is the same as from XP SP3 normal acpi.sys. So, this Vista acpi.sys is not better than the one for XP Dietmar |
| #331 | diderius6 | I just isolate the Acpi 2.0 word QwordAcc in Bios 3.20 of the Asrock board. The QwordMemory word stays in Bios. This gives the same BSOD 0xA5 (0x03, xxx, C0140008, yyy) as before on ahci.sys 5084 Dietmar |
| #332 | diderius6 | Now I isolate Acpi 2.0 word QwordAcc in Bios 3.20 of the Asrock board and also word QwordMemory at all its places in Bios. The resultat is a changed BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxx, 0xC0000034, yyy). One thing you can see from this: QwordMemory and QwordAcc are not the (only) reason for BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000003 on acpi.sys 5048. Dietmar EDIT: When I start with this modified Bios and use my own, modified acpi.sys, which works for this board, I get now BSOD 0x7b, so this happens because I isolate QwordMemory in Bios. There is other important information in this large block with QwordMemory, which I block. So even Win7 does not want to start from this Bios. I Flash Bios back, now all ok again. |
| #333 | diderius6 | May be, nearly all Bios have real errors. Very critical acpi.sys gives them all together out as 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxx, C0140008, yyy). And the only thing, why this error goes away is, that newer acpi.sys from Vista are more error tolerable Dietmar |
| #334 | diderius6 | After a lot of problems, I succeed to install Windows Vista (''Longhorn'' 6.0.4011.0) on the EVGA dark z390 motherboard via installed XP SP3 on it and the Asmedia AHCI connectors. So acpi.sys 4011 shows no errror in correct Bios Dietmar EDIT: The acpi.sys 4011 has also a new dependency on ntoskrnl.exe and also one to hal.dll. When I try to start XP SP3 with this acpi.sys 4011 I get BSOD 0x7B. EDIT2: acpi.sys 4008 has no (!) new dependency on ntoskrnl.exe but one to hal.dll, which gives BSOD 0x7B on try to boot XP SP3. EDIT3: acpi.sys 3718 has no extra dependencies, but also no ACPI 2.0 in it. No BSOD but hangs on boot XP SP3. |
| #335 | infuscomus | I tested ACPI beta 5048 7E BSOD specific to acpi.sys |
| #336 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The BSOD 7E can happen, when you have a driver for your harddisk AHCI, that is similar to the right driver. For example you use DEV_A353 but the real name is DEV_A352 Dietmar EDIT: The reason can be in this case something complete different: When you change acpi.sys, whole structure how windows loads drivers, changed. So, this alone can make this BSOD. For to test this, you have to open HIVE "system" in WINDOWS\system32\config (from your XP with acpi.sys vers 5048) in another XP and import with regedit from commandline to HKLM (load structure). When you named the HIVE system for example otto, you find otto under HKLM of your working XP. Delete there key MountedDevices (in otto). After deleting, mark otto blue (with mouseclick on it), go up left corner "Struktur entfernen" (in German). Then, on your connected XP with acpi.sys 5048 the chances are automaticall stored. EDIT: BSOD 7E can have a lot of reasons. To me happend the same BSOD with newer versions of acpi.sys from Win2003. |
| #337 | infuscomus | It's the ACPI(beta) driver, not AHCI |
| #338 | diderius6 | I noticed a difference
between acpi.sys XP SP3 and acpi.sys 5048 on the Asus Apex X board, both
work on unmodded Bios, here vers. 1704. The 5048 acpi.sys tries to install a device via acpiec.sys (from XP) but failed to do this: Name (_HID, EisaId ("PNP0C09") /* Embedded Controller Device */) // _HID: Hardware ID Yellow questionmark in device manager: No error, but device does not start. I just checked, this device is indeed in the DSDT table from Bios 1701 of the Asus Apex X board. This device does not appear in XP acpi.sys list. This again makes me think, that nothing importand changed in those acpi.sys, only the acpi.sys 5048 works more correct as the one from XP Dietmar PS: The work together from acpi.sys with acpiec.sys is unclear for me. How can each driver know, which device is for what driver, when they share one DSDT table??? The driver acpiec.sys is in folder drivers of XP SP3. |
| #339 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Vista 5365 - integers are 32/64 (selectable depending revision of DSDT table, V1=32, V2=64), added Dynamic conversion of types, PDB published. Nice finding, this overcomes any problems with 32 bit <-> 64 bit in acpi.sys. Which version of Windbg do you use for this (Server under XP Windbg?) and where to you find the acpi.pdb for the 5365 version? Did you understand, how the select mechanism for V1, V2 works (can it easy be faked, meaning always V1=32) and the following "Dynamic conversion of types" and can it be implemented (set V1=32) in 5048 acpi.sys version? Dietmar |
| #340 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Do you think, that 5365 acpi.sys still works, when you just cancel extra questions (dependencies) to XP ha.dll and XP ntoskrnl.exe in it Dietmar |
| #341 | infuscomus | You can try using blackwingcat's PEMaker to edit the import table? ⇗ http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/1313117.html although, I don't know if this will work. |
| #342 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Waaoh, this is really a nice tool, thank you very much Dietmar PS: At once I come to the idea, to make the INTEL 219 lan driver to work with XP via this tool.EDIT: My problem is now, that I do not understand, HOW I can modify the import table from acpi.sys 5048 with this tool. I cant see any option to modify this importlist, only can see it. |
| #343 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #339 - any windbg has symbol downloader tool, just C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.1\Debuggers\x86\symchk.exe /v acpi.sys, result in c:\windows'symbol\ - if revision=v1, all internal integers operation are 32 width, this is compatibility mode with old bioses (acpi 1.x only ???), we still can use all qword* opcodes, i think if we need access to 64bit things, we access only low 32 dword, high is forced to zero - if revision=v2, all ints are 64bit, no limitation, full access to any field/mem - "Dynamic conversion of types" is not integer conv, this is conversion string to buffer or vice versa or some else, i see this conv in handlers of two opcodes: Index(), LogOp(and,or,not) |
| #344 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #340 remove import, remove call in code and place some code (emulate orig logic) instead, you need be asm hacker to do this... |
| #345 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Yes, but the nice thing in this would be, that you can use the original, last vista acpi.sys Dietmar PS: I take a look at this extra functions in ntoskrnl.exe and hal.dll. I do not think, that they are really needed for working acpi.sys. |
| #346 | diderius6 | May be it is not so difficult: Just take import list from acpi.sys 5048 and replace with it import list from acpi.sys 5365 Dietmar |
| #347 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #342 I think PEMaker 0.82 is bugged - use PEMaker 0.60 select english under Import TBL tab - the button ?? next to replace button is delete button - you can delete imports this way there is another tool - PETool 0.0.5 that can add exports too if you need it ⇗ https://msfn.org/board/topic/146529-pe-t...eating-patches/ |
| #348 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus yessa ,Version PEMKR031 works, I can edit the Importtable from acpi.sys 5365, now really fun starts, Dietmar |
| #349 | diderius6 | Yessa, all missmatched dependencys killed from acpi.sys 5365 to ntoskrnl.exe from XP SP3. Dependency Walker shows this, nice, wow, now hal.dll Dietmar Edit: hal.dll is also freed from all evil! |
| #350 | diderius6 | Not work, acpi.sys 5365 shows BSOD 0x7b, sniff Dietmar ⇗ ![]() EDIT: The fun is not over, because I just notice, that acpi.sys 5365 has some more and also some missing components comparing with acpi.sys from XP SP3. |
| #351 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #349 It reminds me of a runner, who gets shot off one foot after the other ) When you kill import, loader will not reference some function to external dll, and when this function called inside acpi.sys, it will call/jmp to zero or something like that. example: ![]() KeStartDynamicProcessor not exist in winxp kernel, you killed import, you need write own func inside acpi.sys or avoid calling it. some funcs like EtwRegister is useless trash and we can avoid calling it without any problem you can't skip important func like IoConnectInterruptEx, it register ISR handler to interrupt processing, as we know acpi has own interrupt/irq line and need this handler |
| #352 | diderius6 | Yes, I think this is true. I changed all 67 dependencies, the file acpi.sys from 5365 looks now identic like this one from XP, but still gives at boot BSOD 0x7b, Dietmar |
| #353 | diderius6 | No, the Tool is not such stupid. It also cancel the function call in its routine, when it is deleted from Importtable. I make a check: My last acpi.sys build from 5365 with about 100 changes. And compare with original acpi.sys 5365. call ds:KeStartDynamicProcessor is gone in the modified one Dietmar PS: But I understand now, why I get BSOD 0x7B. The Tool killes all dependencys to hal.dll, I checked this with IDA, crazy, even they are still shown. But IDA pro shows at once, no dependencies left for hal.dll, brrr.. EDIT: Even I think, you can really make an working acpi.sys via this tool, in the end all the new progress from Vista is gone, it is a clone from the XP acpi.sys with some new opcodes for XP routines. EDIT2: For to understand, what is going on, I added the function KeFlushWriteBuffer, which is normally not in acpi.sys from XP to acpi.sys from XP, ntoskrnl knows about it. Again the strange thing happens: I got BSOD 0x7B and the dependency for ALL functions on hal.dll are gone again, brr. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #354 | infuscomus | We could try adding forwarded exports to XP ntoskrnl using PETool 0.0.5 - possibly? |
| #355 | infuscomus | I made an attempt at forwarded exports for ACPI 5365 - but I'm not sure how well I did. I think I messed up XP hal.dll - or not? need to test ⇗ https://ufile.io/mjsgw0r9 fixed pshed dll ⇗ https://ufile.io/toamtpf4 |
| #356 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I make a try similar to this yesterday also. I put acpi.sys 5365 together with ntoskrnl from its Vista and all the dll, that I found via Dependency Walker. But even in this way it becomes Vista:)), compi always cries, a dll is missing, Dietmar PS: I do not think, that the PE Tool from Blackwingcat is so bad. I take a look with Beyond Compare 2 to it, what happens. 3 sections are always like cut out, changed, but nothing more. So, even the tool deleted all dependencies to hal.dll, that Ida Pro cant find them (they are reall gone, I checked), there is a chance to give them back after operation. I will make a test today: I take the working acpi.sys from XP and delete one of its functions and give it after back with the Tool. Via this way you can precise see, where the Tool went wrong. |
| #357 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus With the tool Dependecy Walker you can see, what went wrong in your forwarding, Dietmar PS: The idea is nice, only I think then you need a lot of other dll from Vista. |
| #358 | diderius6 | It seems, that the Pe-Tool only cancels the name of the dependency, the dependencies itself as .idata are still at there place. Ida Pro looks only for the names of dependencies (blind), but Dependency Walker looks at real dependencies (good). May be, when you add a new function, there is not enough place in "subtable" aka Pe-Tool. Not easy to delete a function and then add another, because which function is not needed, Dietmar EDIT: In XP SP3, the Pe-Tool does not work correct. For to test this, I first delete function KfAcquireSpinLock and then add it again. Gives just BSOD 0x7B. A check with Beyond Compare 2 shows, that there are only minimal differences between the original acpi.sys and this "new" build acpi.sys. EDIT2: May be, the tool changed the functions against them from Win2000?! |
| #359 | infuscomus | can you compare the files i have made to yours? - are we getting the same problem? ⇗ https://ufile.io/l2nq5ng9 p.s - I tried to integrate files into install media, i got ntkrnlmp.exe error code 7 in textmode |
| #360 | diderius6 | When you look at acpi.sys with Dependency Walker, you can see, that some forwarded functions to ntoskrnl.exe are red, means not correct Dietmar |
| #361 | diderius6 | Yeaaah, I just get the version 0.82 to work. And voila, now the dependency to hal.dll is kept, lets see, if mody mody modified acpi.sys boots XPDietmar |
| #362 | infuscomus | do you get strange errors like this? ⇗ |
| #363 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus No, my problem was, that all was green, but even then modified acpi.sys does not work Dietmar EDIT: Njet, again BSOD 0x7B, brrr.. |
| #364 | diderius6 | Oh, I think I am only 1 step away from break through: Now I get BSOD FC (...) hihi, interesting.. in not executable memory.. Dietmar EDIT: I think this is the fault of the Pe-tool 0.82. It changes adresses and so follows this BSOD in XP. ⇗ ![]() |
| #365 | infuscomus | could these files be made to work? ⇗ https://ufile.io/l2nq5ng9 or is this the wrong solution for this problem? |
| #366 | diderius6 | Forwarding is not correct done. I do not know, if with this forwarding tool Pe 005 it is easier than with 0.82 version from Blackwingcat. I think, the PETool 0.82 does not work correct with XP Dietmar |
| #367 | infuscomus | If forwarding is not the right solution, any other ideas? |
| #368 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #364 maybe set execute flag for that section? I'm just guessing |
| #369 | diderius6 | This is very difficult, to write own code for acpi.sys. I tried to integrate word "ToInteger" in normal acpi.sys from XP. This is really crazy work. For me, using the 0.82 PE-Tool with edit Import Functions, was "best result" no BSOD, but you can see the running pixel for ever^^ Dietmar EDIT: Problem is, that I do not understand why and how the Pe-Tool changes adresses. For me this makes no sense: When you delete a function and afterward add it again, why should change anything??? |
| #370 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #369 I mainly used PEMaker 0.82 to remove imports Try this tool for adding exports maybe? - you might have better luck with this ⇗ https://msfn.org/board/topic/146529-pe-t...eating-patches/ I used this to add new export functions |
| #371 | diderius6 | I find out, what the 0.82 tool did. For this I produce a *.lst file via Ida Pro before and one *.lst file after deleting and adding the same function in original acpi.sys from XP. This 2 textfiles I compare with Beyond Compare 2. The tool changes KfReleaseSpinLock <-> WRITE_PORT_ULONG If all adresses would be changed correct also, then this would be not a problem. But it is. So, may be the tool can be forced to let the adresses combined with the function names unchanged, Dietmar PS: This finding gives me hope:-)! |
| #372 | infuscomus | have you tried PETool 0.0.5? does it produce the same result as PEMaker 0.82? |
| #373 | diderius6 | No, at the moment I have not tried. The problem is with forwarding, that you have to find all the dlls, that match the "new" kernel. With the 0.82 tool, you need nothing, even not the files hal.dll and ntoskrnl.exe. where the acpi.sys depends on. I begin to understand, how this tool works. It is like a text based program. It delets for you functions and put them in, without any knowing of the functions itself. It just operates on their names and adresses. So, in principle this is a nice idea and much less complicate as I thought in the beginning. I wonder, why Blackwingcat does not support it any more, 0.82 is from 2012. And it does not matter if the operating system is NT4, win2000, XP, Vista, Win7.. because their structure is identic Dietmar |
| #374 | diderius6 | Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ![]() ![]() ![]() XP SP3 boots with modified acpi.sys via PE-Tool 0.82. You only have to force the PE-Tool, not to change in each function its raw adress Dietmar |
| #375 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #374 well done! I'm happy to hear you have got it working, I'd love to try it out myself (I do hope this solves my 7B BSOD) |
| #376 | diderius6 | Now I notice, that acpi.sys 5365 has much more dependencies than acpi.sys from XP SP3. NTOSKRNL.EXE PSHED.DLL HAL.DLL BOOTVID.DLL KDCOM.DLL CLFS.SYS CI.DLL WMILIB.SYS And the Pe-Tool 0.82 seems not to like to work with Vista, Dietmar EDIT: Lucky, that this is only true for 0.82 version. 0.60 version of the Pe-Tool works also for Vista files. |
| #377 | diderius6 | Next try with acpi.sys 5365 for XP SP3 boot, but gives BSOD 0x7B Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #378 | infuscomus | I tried it out, I got - file acpi.sys is corrupted - in textmode setup edit: missing - RtlInvertRangeListEx |
| #379 | infuscomus | maybe we can use the reactOS ACPI driver? |
| #380 | diderius6 | To modify the DSDT table on XP to an XP friendly DSDT version works, if you succeed to load this table to registry (HIVE system to ram) before boot. I tested this with the flag for the legacy timer via s4e method, works. On Win2003 this is other situation, because DSDT is not stored in registry, only read direct from Bios Dietmar |
| #381 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Do you find out, why acpi.sys 5048 and all those acpi.sys versions for Vista around crashes on XP unfriendly Bios always with the same BSOD 0xA5 (0x03, xxx, C0140008, yyy) When something went wrong, this BSOD takes you to the adress, where this BSOD happens. At which part of the DSDT table happens this, when acpi.sys reads DSDT? The ACPI 2.0 words, which make problems for acpi.sys from XP CopyObject CreateQwordfield QwordConst are already integrated in acpi.sys 5048, so this "always the same BSOD" may have a reason, which can be easy overcome Dietmar EDIT: NTStatus Code C0140008 STATUS_ACPI_INVALID_ARGTYPE An argument with an incorrect type was specified It is in ntstatus.h . May be small hack in ntoskrnl.exe and this is gone? |
| #382 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #380 Do you mean just edit SETUPREG.HIV or something else? |
| #383 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 my test of ACPI 5048 on AMD ⇗ edit: I also tested reactos ACPI driver in virtualbox - 7B BSOD edit2: reactos ACPI and ATAPI in virtualbox - no 7B in XP textmode - I might try this on real hardware |
| #384 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus No, it is the part of registry, called "system". C:\WINDOWS\system32\config system If you want, you can send to me this file "system" from your AMD 350 motherboard. I will delete there key MountedDevices and I look for the asmedia 106x driver, if it is correct integrated there Dietmar dietmar.stoelting@t-online.de |
| #385 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #384 I've never gotten XP to successfully install on this AMD 350 Motherboard, so I don't have a config system file to show you. |
| #386 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #381 search acpi.sys for "C0140008" string, error in _ValidateArgTypes, _CreateField or _ObjTypeSizeOf ValidateArgTypes is called after every opcode, it check arg type vs some string code "D", "C", "I", "..." (for example argument ToInteger() can has only 3 types: Integer,String,Buffer and coded as "D") |
| #387 | diderius6 | I just got the nice information, that acpi.sys from Winserver 2003 R2 (5.2.3790.16384 ) has all Acpi 2.0 words integrated Dietmar PS: This file match the importtable from XP. |
| #388 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #387 can it work? |
| #389 | diderius6 | I just test 2 different versions of acpi.sys Win Server 2003 R2 (2003 R2 5.2.3790.16384 and 2003 R2 5.2.3790.3959 ) They give both BSOD 0x7B on XP SP3. I think, it is because the load process of DSDT table is different between XP and Win2003. Win 2003 takes it from Bios and XP from registry. At the moment, they can only boot Win2003 Dietmar EDIT: Interesting is this for sure: I also test acpi.sys from winserver 2003 SP1 5.2.3790.1830, this gives old know BSOD A5. |
| #390 | infuscomus | I can install and boot XP with 2003 ACPI in a virtualbox VM |
| #391 | diderius6 | I make an USB boot with newest acpi.sys from Winserver 2003, for to overcome BSOD 0x7B. Does anybody know, what this message mean? I have never seen before Dietmar ⇗ ![]() EDIT: 0x7E( 0xC0000005: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION indicates a memory access violation occurred. This may be the old problem of really uncorrect Bios on the Asrock board. DSDT writes in reserved memory (it is the adress for the COM1 port). EDIT2: No, it is the fault of acpi.sys from win2003. On the EVGA Dark z390 board with XP friendly Bios I get BSOD 0xD1 (0x28, 0x02,0x00,0xblabla) Bug Check 0xD1: DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL The DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL bug check has a value of 0x000000D1. This indicates that a kernel-mode driver attempted to access pageable memory while the process IRQL that was too high. EDIT3: acpi.sys 5.2.3790.3959 boots XP friendly Bios. But on other Bios gives A5 0x11 BSOD. This is the same BSOD, as acpi.sys from XP SP3 gives. May be the problem with unknow words from ACPI 2.0 is gone in latest acpi.sys from win2003. But other problems remain. acpi.sys 5.2.3790.3959 is more complex than from XP. So, easy hack isnt. |
| #392 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #391 I got this exact error using ACPI 5048 ⇗ @diderius6 can you test reactOS ACPI driver for results? infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #393 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I just test the acpi.sys from Reactos on XP SP3. The importtable match with XP. But on XP unfriendly and on XP friendly Bios I always get BSOD 0x7B. I take a closer look at this acpi.sys from reactos. It works not via strings like "ToInteger". But may be this is the future Dietmar EDIT: Also BSOD 0x7B for USB boot. Interesting would be, how this acpi.sys from reactos will work on a Win2003 installation. |
| #394 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #393 I got the same result with my test - BSOD 7B ⇗ @diderius6 maybe try to compile reactos ACPI driver code with windows DDK? |
| #395 | diderius6 | It will not work, because it is complete different compiler surrounding, Dietmar |
| #396 | infuscomus | GCC compiled reactos ACPI - no 7B BSOD in virtualbox |
| #397 | diderius6 | I make some more tests with the newest acpi.sys from WinServer 2003 on XP unfriendly Bios. With first variant I get BSOD A5 (0x11, 0x08,..) with second BSOD A5 (0x02,..). It is exact the same behavior as with acpi.sys from XP SP 3 Dietmar |
| #398 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 this compiled reactos ACPI driver works in virtualbox (compiled with GCC) - can you test for result? |
| #399 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Is it another acpi.sys, than you send to me? The one you send, gives always BSOD 0x7B Dietmar Edit: Which cpu is on your mainboard asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4? You can just flash an older BIOS, look for this on website from Asrock for compability for your cpu. |
| #400 | infuscomus | my CPU is a Ryzen 5 2400g - in case running natively cannot work and I have to switch to virtualization with PCI Passthrough |
| #401 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus After some problems because of 3.3 V against 1.8 V on ch341a programmer and versions problems (for me ONLY vers. 118 (!) and 140 work correct). I read Bios chip 4 times out with this 2 versions and compare with Winhex. Then I compare those files with original Bios P4.60 from the asrock website with Beyond Compare 2. Because the blocks are identic, I can see that only the special information for example MAC number for board is different. Now I am 99% sure, that I get all information from the Bios on my motherboard asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4. I succeed to read out its Bioschip 25Q128FWSQ with Bios Vers. 4.60 on this asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board. This is the oldest Bios version, that supports Ryzen 5 2400g, Dietmar PS: Because processor 1700 arrives only tomorrow, then fun continues for ACPI boot XP SP3 on this board. I read on different russian websites, that until now nobody succeeds with this. |
| #402 | infuscomus | I wish you good luck. |
| #403 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I succeed to install XP SP3, but only without ACPI. This was really a hard job. No mouse, no USB, no AHCI.. No PS\2 y-cable possible, only keyboard. But nvme works. I noticed, that there are errors in the DSDT table. A variable in CreateQwordfield is without name. I do nvme boot on this board, because before I have no AHCI driver. Later I noticed, that the SATA slots on the board are wrong numerated. The 2 Asmedia Sata slots are the first 2 in the row with the 4(!) Acpi boot via nvme gives BSOD 0x7E (C0000005,..). I am quite sure, that this happens because real errors in the DSDT table. I tried Bios 4.60, 2.50, 3.40 all the same. A repair of the DSDT table will make acpi boot, it is not the fault of modified acpi.sys Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #404 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Nice! you've gone further than I ever did, I seem to always get 7B BSOD even with only ASMedia SATA ports connected. did you use SATA CD drive? - I will have to go get one - before I only used a USB CD (actually iodd 2531 with XP ISO) Do Fernando's AMD USB 3.1 drivers work? for amd SATA try AMD AHCI Driver v1.2.1.321 for W2k3 x86 WHQL with HWID INF edit (add 7901 and 43B7) and win2003 storport.sys file? |
| #405 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I use the Asmedia driver which I send to you and make with them via Nlite a setup CD. Still there is hope for full XP SP3 on this board :)) Dietmar |
| #406 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 which version of ASMedia SATA driver should I use? 3.2.0.0? earlier version? |
| #407 | diderius6 | For me works the Asmedia driver, which I send to you, Dietmar |
| #408 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD How is progress on your tool, which changes XP unfriendly DSDT table to XP friendly one? And how does it work, XPbadDSDT.dsl -> XPgoodDSDT.dsl or in *.raw modus? I am so curious, how you ban the A5 0x11 errors and A5 0x02. Do you just encapsule them via If ((OSYS >= 0x07D6)) { ..error in XP.. } have a nice day Dietmar EDIT: Is there a possibility, to tell the amli assembler, to produce only ACPI 1.b code? It should be possible, because as I understand AMLI works as interpreter. So, make it to work like in German "Dolmetscher". |
| #409 | diderius6 | First results on the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board with latest Bios 5.40 Works (stable) in XP SP3 harddisk, CD-rom (on asmedia AHCI 106x) keyboard PS/2 mouse PS/2 (via y-cable only AUTO in Bios) network sound graphiccard USB 3.1 (40MByte/s) Not works: APIC mode (only PIC mode) USB 3.0 ACPI nvme (it is because of a conflict between scsiport.sys and storport.sys (message nvme device cannot start). XP can handle both, but not on all boards at the same time. nvme boot also not works BSOD 0x7B. Sata AHCI AMD Ven_1022&Dev_43B7. I found a driver, but ntoskrnl.exe has 2 not matching dependencies. Interesting, the 950 pro (with own legacy nvme Bios) can stay at boot time together with harddisk. Nearly all other compis fail (Asus Apex X not fails) Dietmar PS: I have not seen any AMD USB 3.0 driver for the AB350 chipset for XP 32 bit, Ven_1022&Dev_145C . ⇗ ![]() |
| #410 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Can USB/AHCI work with existing Fernando drivers with INF mod? (add hwids to INF) |
| #411 | diderius6 | AHCI driver for the asmedia 106x ship I just send to you. The USB drivers, that are here in the forum, work only for Win7. I have not seen them for XP Dietmar PS: Board is nice and stable. Only missing USB in XP. Acpi can be done with some more work. |
| #412 | diderius6 | Yessa, I check with dependency walker the USB files. And I found one, compiled for WIN7, which works for XP:)). Only a little bit faster than USB 2.0 but now I have USB on this board also!!! Dietmar EDIT: The normal installer does not work. Cries, not for this OP.. But doing by hand via *.inf works. It is driver for Ven_1022&Dev_43BB cool.. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #413 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Working USB! Nice! There are newer drivers on these forums - v1.0.5.3 - you might get better performance with new version? for AMD AHCI try Universal ATA driver for Windows NT3.51/NT4/2000/XP/2003/Vista/7/ReactOS With PATA/SATA/AHCI support ⇗ http://alter.org.ua/soft/win/uni_ata/ |
| #414 | diderius6 | I make a try to edit the DSDT table from this board Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4: Because I get BSOD A5 (0x2001), which means "ACPI tried to evaluate the PIC control method but failed." So I change in DSDT table Method (_PIC, 1, NotSerialized) // _PIC: Interrupt Model { If (Arg0) { \_SB.DSPI () \_SB.PCI0.NAPE () } PXXX (Arg0) } against Method (_PIC, 1, NotSerialized) // _PIC: Interrupt Model { If ((OSVR >= 0x0C)) { If (Arg0) { \_SB.DSPI () \_SB.PCI0.NAPE () } PXXX (Arg0) } } Now I am just flashing the BIOS via CH341a writer, because flash on compi told me: Checksum incorrect Dietmar EDIT: Compi survives the crazy flash procedure, but BSOD remains the same. So, maybe it is not the direct fault of the _PIC: Interrupt Model , but something in its pointers went wrong. EDIT2: I make a check with the new Bios, if my changes are put in. Yes, they are. Now I think, the method _pic is never called, because I do not find any "_pic" call in DSDT table else, hmm. So, the error is in a pointer for the interrups. EDIT3: _PIC Method The \ _PIC optional method is to report to the BIOS the current interrupt model used by the OS. This control method returns nothing. The argument passed into the method signifies the interrupt model OSPM has chosen, PIC mode, APIC mode, or SAPIC mode. Notice that calling this method is optional for OSPM. If the method is never called, the BIOS must assume PIC mode. It is important that the BIOS save the value passed in by OSPM for later use during wake operations. _PIC(x):_PIC(0)=> PIC Mode _PIC(1) => APIC Mode _PIC(2) => SAPIC Mode_PIC(3-n)=> Reserved This may be indeed the reason for this BSOD A5 0x2001. XP uses high irqs, so it makes use of the APIC method. A try with PIC methode fails then. EDIT4: Yesssa, I was right. When I chose "ACPI - PC" during setup hitting F5, XP takes ACPI+PIC mode. This BSOD is gone:)). What a crazy job, to fix step by step a buggy DSDT table. And this is not the fault of XP but goes to the manufacturers. |
| #415 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #414 ⇗ @diderius6 Wait, so do I just need to press F5 and force use of ACPI PC in setup? or is a BIOS mod still needed for ACPI? |
| #416 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I try to make the DSDT table of the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board XP friendly. Until now, I solved only one BSOD A5 0x2001 during edit DSDT table. Then appears next BSOD A5 0x02, so it is a really hard way to happyness:)) Dietmar |
| #417 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 any chance I could test your nvme driver on my PC for XP? same motherboard so it should work, right? |
| #418 | diderius6 | Yes, it works, but the problem is, when it is used together with a scsiport device, on the fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 nvme under XP does not work together with harddisk. You can integrate the nvme driver in the setup CD from XP SP3 via nlite. But then you also have to copy storport.sys in the setup CP by hand, using makecab.exe. After first TXT install of XP, you have to copy by hand again the driver storport.sys into windows\system32\drivers because XP didnt do that alone, Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #419 | diderius6 | Today I make a try to install an own edit, full DSDT table into XP SP3 without using Bios. Because I notice, there is no tool to flash Bios from AMD.. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\ACPI\DSDT\842A1\842A1P07\00000004 This key is always build new during start of an ACPI XP. In it is the hexcode of the full DSDT table. When you have a working ACPI XP, you can make a copy file by file of it. May be windows\system32\config folder with all its content is enough. The problem is, that there is no file HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE because it is build new on every boot via Bios. So, you need this copy from config. And now the crazy part happens: Boot this XP on a compi with a XP friendly Bios and change after boot to desktop on running machine the whole content with your wished DSDT hex-file in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\ACPI\DSDT\842A1\842A1P07\00000004 Then shut compi down. When you make a copy of XP as described above, you have this new DSDT file in its registry. Then you have to boot XP writeprotected (only possible on Fat32, because then Bios has no chance to overwrite your DSDT table) and you will have your own DSDT table loaded to ram via XP, reading from registry DSDT table. And you can check, what happens. The problem on an compi with an ACPI XP unfriendly Bios is, that you get always BSOD 0xA5. But now you can work step by step against those BSODS 0xA5 via windbg Dietmar EDIT: On an Intel board, you can make a test with empty DSDT table, just integrate 00000000000..(with the right number of zeroes as the size of your normal DSDT table(!) is) with Uefi-Tool as *.raw body for DSDT table at C118F50D-391D-45F4-B3D3-11BC931AA56D and I think, compi will boot XP with DSDT from to ram loaded registry as written above. I have not tested this because no time just now and there it is some risk, that your Bios is broken!!! Never I would make that test without a motherboard with working BIOS flash back possibility. EDIT2: May be it is really a crazy (good?!) idea. I just tried to integrate a *.raw filled with zeroes as "DSDT" table. You can integrate it into the Biosfile with Uefi-Tool. But I dont know what happens, because the dependencies to other tables in Bios are gone also. Tomorrow I make a try on the Asus Apex X board, because it has Bios flashback, which works to 99%. A question, if this works is, at which Time the DSDT table is loaded. I think the normal way is: Bios writes DSDT to registry and then XP reads and loads DSDT table from registry. And if Bios cant write registry because write protected, XP reads in any case DSDT table from registry. |
| #420 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 maybe you can change the permissions for the DSDT registry key so it can not be overwritten? ⇗ https://www.askvg.com/windows-tip-take-o...m-command-line/ edit: for XP textmode setup, you can add DSDT registry key into setupreg.hiv in \ControlSet001\Hardware Profiles\0000\SYSTEM\ For GUI phase of setup - add DSDT to hivesys.inf |
| #421 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Thanks for help, I will test all:)) Dietmar |
| #422 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 This might be an XP friendly DSDT table for AMD AM4 - It does not use CreateQWordField it's from an ASUS Prime B350 PLUS - BIOS 0805 infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #423 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes, this is interesting, because they change CreateQWordField against CreateDWordField. So may be, the whole DSDT table is XP friendly. This would be the first time for an B350 chipset. Needs to be tested Dietmar PS: Until now, I do not understand, why there are so many BSOD on neuer DSDT table in the form A5 0x02. This means always conclict with pci devices, Dietmar PS: ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD wrote, that he overcomes this BSOD with his modified acpi.sys. My modified acpi.sys does not always work correct against this BSOD. May be, a lot of devices are just ignored from special acpi.sys. EDIT: Newest Bios 4602 this board has CreateQWordField in DSDT table. So may be, only their old DSDT tables are XP friendly. Yes, oldest Bios 406 has also only CreateDWordField in its DSDT table. |
| #424 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 did you manage to load custom DSDT table in registry? or do we have to go with a BIOS mod? |
| #425 | diderius6 | Today I have had long school. Until now, I do not try. But I am sure, it will work. I just find out, that also for your motherboard old BIOS has no CreateQwordfield in it, so may be it becomes XP unfriendly only in last time. This would be a big help Dietmar |
| #426 | infuscomus | I tested XP setup in my HTPC which has a Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITX/ac motherboard in it with original release BIOS on it. I got a 7E BSOD in acpi.sys I checked with clean install media - same error 7E |
| #427 | diderius6 | I try to understand, why all this BSODs via acpi.sys happen. For this, I find the tool OZMTool_v0.3_win which works not in XP (but in Win7). With this tool you can also extract DSDT.aml raw files from older Bios, which are build for Acpi 1.b (XP friendly). Then I compare the *.dsl from 2 Asrockboards. XP friendly (AM3+) : Asrock 970 Pro3 R2.0 XP unfriendly (AM4) : Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 Because I noticed, that all Intel DSDT tables are nearly identic but different to the AMD DSDT tables. First XP BSOD on Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 is A5 0x2001 This goes to a mismach IRQ table (pic: 16 irqs, apic also higher irqs allowed). When I compare those methods, I see, that those DSDT tables from AMD are also very similar. XP friendly: Method (_PIC, 1, NotSerialized) // _PIC: Interrupt Model XP unfriendly Method (_PIC, 1, NotSerialized) // _PIC: Interrupt Model Method IRQC is renamed to DSPI , but identic. So, just delete \_SB.PCI0.NAPE ()hard way, but I do not know other Dietmar |
| #428 | diderius6 | I start XP (on my XP friendly asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6). Then I zero out DSDT in its registry (0000 stays in DSDT binary). After this I read DSDT out with REWrite everything. This shows the normal DSDT table. Then I disconnect power, for to give XP no chance to write anything back from ram to registry. From this XP I make a bit to bit copy on an optane USB device, which can be set writeprotect (mechanic). Then I start XP via this writeprotected device. (By the way, I noticed, that with XP SP3 is also writeprotect boot possible on NTFS). But very strange to me, this XP boots normal via s4e method. This means the following: The DSDT from Bios is written to registry in a later boot phase, not in first. Because if Bios would write DSDT to registry in early bootphase, it cant, because there is the writeprotect device, which works alone in this phase. Then, without any DSDT table in registry XP would crash(?!), who knows.. My previos test with the timer bit in FADT is other. This table speaks with hal.dll in a very early bootphase. So, this can be faked easy. Because of this result, it is more difficult to present XP a modified DSDT table during boot. It happens in second bootstage and because of this, you have to force acpi.sys to make use of this place in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\ACPI\DSDT\ and not from Bios! But how? Dietmar EDIT: acpi.sys is loaded during first bootphase. And BSOD A5 (not compatible Acpi) happens at the end of this first phase. Strange, may be acpi.sys from XP SP3 reads now DSDT table like WinServer2003 only direct from Bios? And at the place HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\ACPI\DSDT\ stays only a not needed copy? EDIT2: "If the HARDWARE_REDUCED_ACPI flag is set, all fields relating to the ACPI Hardware Specification are ignored by the operating system." And this bit is in FADT. But I have no idea, if acpi.sys from XP take notice from this flag. May be the acpi.sys from Vista take notice? No, flag works only from Windows 8 up. |
| #429 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 clover boot loader can apparently modify ACPI tables before passing to the OS - This adds a layer of complexity to getting this to work - I've never done this myself so I don't know if this will work. edit: arch linux can do the same thing? ⇗ https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DSDT edit2: maybe try acpi.sys from SP1 or SP2 and see if these old versions read DSDT from registry? |
| #430 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 If I have to go with the modded BIOS flash option - what should I use to flash? this? CH341A 24 25 Series EEPROM Flash BIOS USB Programmer SOIC8 SOP8 Clip Adapter ⇗ https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CH341A-24-25...6gAAOSw1Exb6p24 |
| #431 | diderius6 | Yes, this one. But this programs in 3 Volt. You need an extra adapter, that fits in first one, which makes 3->1.8 Volt, Dietmar ⇗ https://www.ebay.de/i/372582467330?chn=ps is all what you need:)). The following contents have been linked to this post: |
| #432 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 OK, Thanks - I will get the one you recommend. also, do you know if the BIOS chip on the AB350 Gaming K4 is an Aptio V? If is is, there is a BIOS flash utility on the AMI website that might be worth a look? |
| #433 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The Bios chip on my Asrock AB350 Gaming K4 is a Winbond 25Q128FWSQ, 1.8 Volt(!). In the description (down) is written, how to patch the DSDT table in registry. It should work in XP, Win7.. This is a little bit strange for me. May be the used program makes a hirachie in to prefer DSDT table from Bios over the DSDT table from Bios. It works, but until now for me it is unclear how and why. ⇗ http://notebookequus.blogspot.com/2008/0...dsdt-table.html Dietmar |
| #434 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 maybe it needs to be put in registry like this exactly? HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\ACPI\DSDT\ALASKA\A_M_I_\01072009 Winbond 25Q128FWSQ is flash ROM and AMI Aptio V is firmware? - I thought AMI flash utility might work without needing to brute force with EPROM programmer? |
| #435 | diderius6 | To override/overload DSDT on Windows XP/Vista/7, use asl.exe from microsoft ASL compiler:C:\Programme\Microsoft ASL Compiler v4.0>asl /? Dietmar |
| #436 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 where can i download microsoft asl compiler? |
| #437 | Lost_N_BIOS | ⇗ @infuscomus - ⇗ http://www.acpi.info/toolkit.htm ⇗ https://acpica.org/downloads/binary-tools ⇗ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previou...n550976(v=vs.85) |
| #438 | infuscomus | ⇗ @Lost_N_BIOS 1st link Thats the Intel version, I'm looking for the Microsoft one. 2nd link Link is dead - 404 edit: it's in WDK 10 - I'll go grab that |
| #439 | Lost_N_BIOS | ⇗ @infuscomus - first link >> Microsoft ASL Assembler/Compiler - link works but doesn't lead to a proper download due to MS is lazy Second link works fine, and I downloaded the file just fine too, here is the direct link from that page, if you still can't download let me know and I will upload it for you - ⇗ https://acpica.org/sites/acpica/files/iasl-win-20190405.zip Third link, that's weird, this one is 404 and it was working for me when I gave you the link??! |
| #440 | infuscomus | ⇗ https://acpica.org/sites/acpica/files/iasl-win-20190405.zip this is the Intel assembler, not the Microsoft one. I managed to get the Microsoft assembler from the windows driver kit. |
| #441 | Lost_N_BIOS | Glad you were able to get it finally. Please upload a copy and post link here for others, thanks. I'll grab a copy too and keep in case anyone asks me for link later |
| #442 | infuscomus | uploaded here so you don't need to download WDK to get it
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| #443 | diderius6 | Here is the whole compiler Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #444 | diderius6 | I just check via Multimeter, that this pin order is correct for the Bios of the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board Dietmar EDIT: The empty pin is also Ground. ⇗ ![]() |
| #445 | diderius6 | Here is photo from Bios on Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board and the 9 pin connector Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #446 | diderius6 | The first and biggest problem of the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board via XP install is, that the crazy Bios always tries to install a pic modell for IRQ and not APIC (higher irqs are allowed). This you can see, hitting F5. On modern XP SP3 only Standard PC works (PIC, noAcpi, one processor). I have a special XP CD, where I can chose also Compac 100% multiprocessor (PIC, no ACPI, multiprocessor, but compi hangs on reboot). So, a lot more is bad with its Bios (vers. 5.40, 3.40, 2.50) Dietmar |
| #447 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can we load a DSDT table from an AM3 motherboard? or would it break everything? |
| #448 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I think, compi will not start. I have done this before to start compi with DSDT from other compi via ch341a epromer , but this was a nearly identic PC, same chipset, same processor. There to change DSDT works. But here we have other situation, new chipset, processor.. I think, we can only use AM3(+) DSDT table for to compare with new DSDT from AM4 chipset. By the way, now I understand, why I nowhere have seen a compi with AM4 chipset, which boots real XP SP3. So I think, I am really first one, but I only succeed with "Standard PC", means no ACPI, only PIC model, only one processor. Dietmar |
| #449 | diderius6 | In boot.ini (with "Standard PC") from Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board I add one extra line multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /KERNEL=ntosacpi.exe /HAL=halacpi.dll /PCILOCK I put in folder windows\system32\ halacpi.dll and ntosacpi.exe (renamed from Acpi-Multiprocessor XP SP3). Result is BSOD 0x7B. But via this way you can enable via COM1 a windbg session and work step by step against BSODs (comparing DSDT AM4 with DSDT AM3+) Dietmar EDIT: And I copy acpi.sys to folder windows\system32\drivers. |
| #450 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 where do I find the DSDT table in an AM3+ ROM? the GUID for AM4 shows nothing |
| #451 | diderius6 | DSDT from AM3+ is in AmiBoardInfo. Crazy to find. I use the tool OZMTtoolv0.3. This tool works in Win7 32 bit, but not in XP Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #452 | diderius6 | Now I also succeed to extract DSDT raw table direct from AM3+ Bios. Search for text DSDT (disable "unicode" in search), find AmiBoardInfo, "PE32 image section", extract body, look in file for DSDT with Winhex, this is the start of the DSDT raw table and end is PCI0SBRGSIOWh. (with the point at the end) (this is direct before Hexvalues F7F8F4) Dietmar Edit: For me is AmiBoardInfo at guid 9F3A0016-AE55-4288-829D-D22FD344C347 |
| #453 | infuscomus | Nice work! I can extract DSDT from AM3+ BIOS now |
| #454 | diderius6 | I just compare DSDT from very first BIOS of ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-EXTREME-ASUS-0401 X470 Taichi Ultimate(1.10)ROM and the first Bios 2.50 for the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board. They are all VERY similar, meaning problems with XP SP3 will be everywhere the same for AMD ryzen, Dietmar EDIT: But I can install full ACPI Vista 32 bit on the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board so, there is still hope for full XP .EDIT2: I also compare XP friendly Bios for AM3+. They are nearly identic. So, lets make a try to use XP friendly DSDT from AM3+ for AM4. EDIT3: Interesting candidate for DSDT from other compi is the board asus a320m-c. It has AM4, but first version has no Ryzen support (R2 has). It comes direct before Ryzen. In its very first Bios A320M-C-SI-0401.CAP (Oct. 2016) DSDT I found, that _pic methode (IRQs) is the same as for XP friendly Bios in their DSDT table. |
| #455 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #454 Cool, can we load this DSDT through registry, or is a BIOS mod the only way that works properly? |
| #456 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Today I make a try to load the DSDT table from A320M-C-SI-0401.CAP via the Microsoft tool to the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board. For to reach this, I use a full Acpi Multiprocessor XP installation from an AM3+ board MSI 760GMA-P34 (FX), which has also the Asmedia Sata AHCI ASM106x. I add an extra boot.ini entry (for to have the possibility to switch to "Standard PC") multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /KERNEL=ntnoacpi.exe /HAL=halnoacp.dll Dietmar EDIT: I can not start with the XP from AM3+ chipset. And this is, even I do not change anything in DSDT. On the XP from AM3+ chipset I replace ntoskrnl.exe and hal.dll to the versions of "Standard PC". The Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 starts with this XP, but hangs during last stage of boot. So, other things also do not work for XP on this board, for example safe boot does not work and I see no entry for bootlog after hitting F8. EDIT2: The Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 has 2 different problems with XP SP3: 1.) The compi starts always in PIC mode (hangs during enable APIC). Hm, which table is it? 2.) ACPI is broken, this belongs to the DSDT table. |
| #457 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Don't you need to run sysprep on XP before moving it across machines? or am I wrong about that? |
| #458 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus With long training I succeed to move XP from one machine to the other without any tool. And this can be also done for Vista and Win7 or Win10. Win8 I never tried. As long as the Windows version is only at one compi at a time, it does not break Microsoft license. Today I was hit by a new problem: A Bios, that does not work in APIC mode under XP, only PIC mode. Little bit like stoneage.. I have not seen this in the last 18 years Dietmar PS: Interesting, if it is because Ryzen processor. There are other AM4 processors on the market for example AMD A8 9600, much cheaper and slower. I will test in next days this 9600 cpu. |
| #459 | diderius6 | I just found Bios version 1.30 for the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4. There, the IRQ table in Bios is other. This is nearly the only difference to Bios 2.50. I am just flashing ![]() Dietmar PS: May be problem to flash back to newer Bios, because in Bios 1.30 is no instant-flash program integrated. |
| #460 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 do you have the right CPU for that BIOS? I only have a ryzen 5 2400G so I doubt it will work for me. |
| #461 | diderius6 | Yes, I have Ryzen 1700. I checked for this before, that I get CPU for ALL Bioses Dietmar |
| #462 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can I have this BIOS? I would like to extract DSDT and try registry method to load DSDT |
| #463 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus, with this 1.3 Bios is the same as before. Under XP it will not allow you to work in APIC mode, only PIC. This is a serious problem, because of it only one core of the cpu can work in XP SP3. And I was right, you cant flash back to higher BIOS, because no flash program in this Bios version, Dietmar But anyway, here it is diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #464 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Thanks very much |
| #465 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 in AB350 gaming k4 BIOS 1.30 _PIC is Method (_PIC, 1, NotSerialized) // _PIC: Interrupt Model { If (Arg0) { \_SB.DSPI () \_SB.PCI0.NAPE () DBG8 = 0xAA } Else { DBG8 = 0xAC } PICM = Arg0 } in XP Friendly 970A-G3.1 Method (_PIC, 1, NotSerialized) // _PIC: Interrupt Model { If (Arg0) { DBG8 = 0xAA \_SB.IRQC () } Else { DBG8 = 0xAC } PICM = Arg0 } have you tried replacing _PIC function? or if your up for taking a risk, replace entire DSDT with known XP friendly? infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #466 | diderius6 | I think, really XP friendly would be Method (_PIC, 1, NotSerialized) // _PIC: Interrupt Model { If (Arg0) { DBG8 = 0xAA } Else { DBG8 = 0xAC } PICM = Arg0 } But at the moment I try to get out of Bios 1.30:)) Dietmar |
| #467 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 did you manage to update from BIOS 1.30? |
| #468 | diderius6 | Until now not, I wait for my 1.8 Volt Epromer, have a nice day, Dietmar |
| #469 | diderius6 | My 1.8 Volt Epromer arrives, 3 of them. But I cannot flash the chip 25q128fwsq with the ch341a and adapter for 1.8 V. I build my nice, perfect working cablemanagment:)), see photo, but does not help. I can read the chip out 2 times, but even I tested all versions of the ch341a, no success. I cant even blank the whole chip, some numbers remain, as I can see with reading. "Best" results gives vers. 1.29 may be something killed the Bioschip Dietmar EDIT: I tested pin 1..8, they work. The connector to motherboard are 2 USB connectors. ⇗ ![]() |
| #470 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 have you bricked your BIOS? |
| #471 | diderius6 | I think yes. I get 2 brandnew Bios chips 25q128fwsq. Without(!!!) the 1.8V adapter (only ch341a) and Version 1.40 of the flashtool I can load my image (5.4 Bios with own settings) back. Soon I desolder broken chip against this one Dietmar EDIT: I just try the same with the second, brandnew 25Q128FWSQ chip. The adapter 1.8V does not work at all. But without adapter (only ch341a vers 1.4) I succeed to write my image 5.4 Bios back, crazy. I disconnect all and connect again and read with version 1.4 the complete brandnew (both) out. This I store as new image and compare with Winhex, 100% match (on both). Ok, I am going to solder:)). |
| #472 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 maybe try grub2 method to load DSDT? (to avoid bricking BIOS in the future) ⇗ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions...ion-4175593071/ ⇗ https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.p...use-custom-dsdt did you want to try the DSDT from that asus 320m-c bios you found? p.s - I have not had much luck loading DSDT in XP registry |
| #473 | diderius6 | This Bioschip is really crazy. I succeed to solder in a brandnew, with my image 5.4 flashed chip. All pins work, no short cut. But compi does not start. When I read out this chip with epromer, it gives crazy values, complete different from before soldering Dietmar EDIT: The brandnew, now soldered chip, shows exact the behavior from original Bios chip before. This simple means, you cant flash this Bios chip with this Epromer, no matter if 1.8V adapter or not. EDIT: The original, now outsoldered Bioschip can be read and written new. But only from original Epromer (ver. 1.40) without the Adapter. This means also, my image ist faulty, which I get from insoldered chip. So, maybe you can use the Epromer for this chip, when it is not connected to the board. EDIT2: The original Bios chip can be cleared and rewritten. But it shows after errors. This does not happen to the brandnew Bios chip (before been soldered). This simply means, this Epromer killed the insoldered, original Bioschip, brrr... and the 1.8 V adapter does not work for this Bios chip 25Q128FWSQ, no matter if it is in the board or outside and brandnew. |
| #474 | diderius6 | Has anybody here in the forum success with the 1.8V adapter for flashing Bios with ch341a epromer? I do not mean only to copy, but to write full content to any Bioschip Dietmar |
| #475 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 did your BIOS backup somehow get corrupted? |
| #476 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I make 2 copies of Bios 5.4 with different versions (1.8, 1.4) of the ch341a program. Between I shut down all. Each copy was verifyied during reading and I compare the copies with Winhex after. All 100% ok. So, may be the ch341a killed not only the insoldered original Bios, because I also doublecheck the brandnew Bioschip with my copy of 5.4 , before I solder it in. Compi does not boot, insoldered Bioschip has different content compared with start values: Large fiels seems to be FF or 00 and only some other crazy bits, Dietmar PS: The conclusion is easy: For the Bios chip 25Q128FWSQ you need a professional Epromer (500 Euro) and I think it works only outside the compi. I tried to awake the Bioschip to new life, running on compi full power on. I can write, but veryfing with different Eprom program vers. show errors after about 5%. (I run them about 10 times.) This was the first time since 1982, that I really succeed to kill a compi. In the afternoon I try another AMD AM4 board ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS for to boot with XP SP3 with the same 1700 cpu. EDIT: I also try the original 3.4 Bios from Webside with all program versions ch341a. I can flash it always, but veryfieing shows always errors at about 5%. The 1.8V adapter is complete useless, this one can program 16KB 24 Eproms. |
| #477 | diderius6 | I just notice, that the AMD AM4 board ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS has the same Bios chip 25Q128FWSQ, brrr.. Dietmar EDIT: This board with the same Ryzen 1700 cpu shows exact the same behavior as the asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4. Bios can only install XP SP3 in PIC mode (means only 1 cpu core). And the Acpi errors are also the same A5 (0x2001). And you have a problem to install XP at all, because no Asmedia 106x Sata slots on this board. Until now, I do not have a generic AHCI XP driver for AMD boards, even this would be possible. I try nvme boot with "Standard PC", but this gives also BSOD 0x7B as on the Asrock board, even the nvme disk is recogniced correct Dietmar PS: In next days I get another AM4 board ASUS A320M-C R2.0. And also another AM4 cpu AMD A8 9600, which is complete other cpu than Ryzen. |
| #478 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #477 can you test with this driver? Universal ATA driver for Windows NT3.51/NT4/2000/XP/2003/Vista/7/ReactOS With PATA/SATA/AHCI support ⇗ http://alter.org.ua/soft/win/uni_ata/ |
| #479 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes, I will try. First you have to build a txtsetup.oem for this driver. Maybe, it can be done easier: Just add the Ven&Dev number for this special AHCI adapter to the txtsetup.oem and the *.inf file of the intel AHCI driver Dietmar EDIT: "Just add the Ven&Dev number for this special AHCI adapter to the txtsetup.oem and the *.inf file of the intel AHCI driver" does not work for AMD AHCI. Gives BSOD 0x7B (driver not there). EDIT2: First try with the uniata.sys gives also BSOD 0x7B. I do not know, why this happens, because the right ven&dev of the AMD AHCI are already in the *.inf file for XP. May be, that you can install this driver from running XP. But the settings in TXTSETUP.OEM are unclear for me. The driver uniata.sys is loaded during XP setup, as I can see. |
| #480 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 you can also edit txtsetup.sif manually - i do that sometimes |
| #481 | diderius6 | This is what I try with the uniata driver. But gives BSOD 0x7B. Any help is welcome, if I do something wrong Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #482 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Does uniata work if installed once XP is booted? - boot with NVME driver (no ACPI) I added some HWIDs and edited registry keys in TXTSETUP.OEM - try it infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #483 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Also with new txtsetup.oem I get BSOD 0x7B on the Asus AMD board, means, at the moment I can not install any kind of XP there. But today I ordered new eprom programer TTL866 II plus (only(!) II plus version supports 1.8 Volt Bios chips) and with its help I will reanimate my asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board.There I installed XP. And from running XP I can try normal *.inf install via device manager for the AMD SATA AHCI slots Ven_1022&Dev_43B7 Dietmar |
| #484 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Does this mean the cheap BIOS flash kit I bought is useless for ab350 gaming k4? |
| #485 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I asked about the grub2 method over at reboot.pro ⇗ http://reboot.pro/topic/22016-can-grub4d...ble-like-grub2/ I will try this method when I have time to test it |
| #486 | diderius6 | Yes, it even can destroy your Bios on the mainboard. I tried really everything: Put CMOS battery out, in, Power on (stand by), Power on(full)...brrr. The 1.8V adapter is useless, I do not succeed to write 1 bit to the Bios chip with it. Version 1.29 of the Tool works best. It recognices the Bios chip correct. But maybe the writer itself killed the Bios, because even chip is recogniced it uses to much voltage Dietmar PS: Interesting, if the Bios chip can be reanimated with tl866 II Plus programer. |
| #487 | diderius6 | Here is a new acpi.sys which based on Vista 5048. It works on a lot of new Intelboards for XP SP3 32 bit, without need to modify anything in Bios. It has all the new words from ACPI 2.0 integratet. On Ryzen board I get BSOD 0x7E (C0000005,..) which I think belongs to PIC mode (no APIC in Bios for XP). But there is still hope, that this kind of acpi.sys supports in future ALL boards with full ACPI support, APIC and multiprocessors, because Vista do this Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #488 | diderius6 | I just test this acpi.sys on ASUS PRIME A320M-C R2 for XP SP3 install with AMD 9600 cpu. Here I get other BSOD 0xA5( 0x0000000D,..) interesting, this I never had before Dietmar 0xA5 (0x0000000D, Parameter2, Parameter3, Parameter4): There are many objects that must be defined in the ACPI namespace, and one or more of these was not found. This error generally occurs if either the _HID or _ADR object is missing. An _ADR is used to define the address of a device on its parent bus. The _ADR is a static address that defines slot numbers for devices that reside on any number of bus types, including EISA, floppy, IDE controller, IDE channel, PCI, PCMCIA, and CardBus. The _HID contains objects that supply the operating system with Plug and Play hardware ID for a device. Technically, these objects are optional, but they absolutely must be present to describe any device that is enumerated by an ACPI driver. EDIT: With my own modified acpi.sys (with changes at 3 places) I get known BSOD 0XA5 (0x2001,..) which again means: The problem is only PIC mode support from Bios! So, also on this board the same happens as on all AM4 boards, that I tested. But the acpi.sys 5048 from Vista does not show this BSOD, so I think it is the right way. |
| #489 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 try loading a different DSDT .aml file using grub2 - maybe that a320m-c R1.0 BIOS with the old _PIC function? |
| #490 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes, something like that may work. I think, it is not an Acpi related problem. But this does not make it easier. We need to find out, what is different in boot Vista on AMD systems compared with the XP SP3 with acpi.sys from Vista 5048 Dietmar |
| #491 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 we could patch extra functions into XP ntoskrnl to match vista ACPI dependencies? |
| #492 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The problem via this way is, that there are a lot of other functions and also new dependencies to other files for acpi.sys in Vista, as I have to see. Today my programer tl866ii plus arrives and first of all I try to reanimate my asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board. Interesting, if on a working Vista (with full Acpi support) the acpi.sys there can be changed against the one from post 487 and works Dietmar |
| #493 | diderius6 | Report about the Epromer tl866ii plus: First I update internal flash and software. On USB 3 it crashes often. On USB2 works, but slow. I am not able to programm a Bios Chip 25q128fwsq with this Epromer without errors. I think, the 3 Bios Chips, that I have, are all killed. Need to buy new Dietmar PS: The Bios chip insoldered in Board is not recogniced and cant be programed. Only when the Bios Chip is direct connected to the Epromer, it is identified correct. No possibilities to change anything in the Epromer, for example Voltage. EDIT: After I erased a lot of times the 25q128fwsq Bios chip, fill it with random numbers, erase again, I was able to program this chip with the epromer tl866ii plus and veryfy it after direct and again with Winhex without any errors. This works only, when the Bios chip is direct connected to the epromer via socket, no cable(!). The tl866ii plus is the only epromer I know, which works for this chip. |
| #494 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 maybe something like this might work? ⇗ https://www.ebay.com/itm/SPI-and-I2C-Fla...M-/290587546215 The following contents have been linked to this post: |
| #495 | Lost_N_BIOS | ⇗ @diderius6
- I am not sure about tl866ii programmers, if it works same as $2
CH341A programmers, but you can use other software with the CH341A
programmer instead of the standard one, and for the chip you mentioned
W25Q128FW you need to use ASProgrammer. Also, if your programmer does not support voltage changes, then yes you would need 1.8V adapter like this, since that is 1.65-1.95V chip - ⇗ https://www.ebay.com/itm/202046860676 The following contents have been linked to this post: |
| #496 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Lost_N_BIOS This 1.8V adapter does not work, also not with ASProgrammer on CH341A. It just shows FF FF everywhere, Dietmar |
| #497 | diderius6 | I think, the problem in the 25Q128FWSQ are really the 1.8 Volt. I even cant erase the whole chip. But when I use the 1.8 version of the TOOL, I can erase everything. The 1.8 ver. of the tool does not know anything about 1.8 V, so I think it uses 3.3 V. And only this works, Dietmar |
| #498 | diderius6 | Yesssaa, I erase the 25Q128FWSQ chip (without any adaptor, only the ch341a programer) with CH341A Programmer 1.18 and after check for blank with CH341A Programmer 1.18. All blank. Again I check for blank with ASProgrammer on pur CH341A for Bios Chip W25Q128FW_1.8V (WINBOND). All blank. Then I program via ASProgrammer on pur CH341A for Bios Chip W25Q128FW_1.8V (WINBOND). After this I read again the Bioschip and compare with my file. For the very first time, Winhex shows 100% identic Dietmar |
| #499 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I am trying the grub2 method for ACPI What are the tables that ACPI uses? - I have DSDT, what other tables are there? I used acpi --load-only /a320cr1.aml then boot XP setup - no more A5 BSOD, but freeze on "Setup is starting windows" |
| #500 | infuscomus | how can I extract RSDT/XSDT from a BIOS/UEFI image? |
| #501 | diderius6 | Yes, I have done this, crazy to find in Bios file. It is easy from a running compi with iasl or RW everything. At the moment I have a lot of work, from Wednesday I have more time Dietmar |
| #502 | infuscomus | trying to replace DSDT with grub2 - got this error - ideas?
infuscomus has attached images to this post |
| #503 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 is this the only BIOS modification necessary for programmable interrupt controller to work? or is more necessary? Method (_PIC, 1, NotSerialized) // _PIC: Interrupt Model { If (Arg0) { DBG8 = 0xAA } Else { DBG8 = 0xAC } PICM = Arg0 } |
| #504 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I am not sure, if it is only a problem in the DSDT table on Bios from AM4 boards. May be, the problem comes from another table, which is loaded during boot also. I think this, because MPS multiprocessor works without any ACPI, meaning XP even does not load the DSDT table Dietmar |
| #505 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I'm not so sure, MPS on my ab350 gaming K4 freezes on "Setup is Starting Windows" |
| #506 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus "I'm not so sure, MPS on my ab350 gaming K4 freezes on "Setup is Starting Windows" " Yes, for me is exact the same. The only chance to see why this happens is a windbg session, from a working XP SP3 with hal and ntoskrnl for MPS multiprocessor, Dietmar PS: This can also be done, when you install a XP SP3 "Standard PC" on ab350 gaming K4 and in boot.ini you make a line with hal and ntoskrnl for MPS. |
| #507 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can the advanced programmable interrupt controller be fixed without fixing ACPI? |
| #508 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus When we find out, why this happens, yes. In 3 days I will test this with windbg Dietmar |
| #509 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I noticed something in txtsetup.sif [hal] 486c_up = hal.dll ,2,hal.dll acpipic_up = halacpi.dll ,2,hal.dll e_isa_up = hal.dll ,2,hal.dll mps_up = halapic.dll ,2,hal.dll mps_mp = halmps.dll ,2,hal.dll syspro_mp = halsp.dll ,2,hal.dll acpiapic_up = halaacpi.dll,2,hal.dll acpiapic_mp = halmacpi.dll,2,hal.dll [Hal.Load] 486c_up = hal.dll acpipic_up = halacpi.dll e_isa_up = hal.dll mps_up = halapic.dll mps_mp = halapic.dll syspro_mp = hal.dll acpiapic_mp = halaacpi.dll acpiapic_up = halaacpi.dll maybe MPS freezes because txtsetup.sif in txtmode loads halapic.dll for uniprocessor instead of halmps.dll for multiprocessor? |
| #510 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus This is really strange. I noticed, that there is a table in Bios, which configures APIC mode (needed for multiprocessor) but I do not know their name. Because Vista 32 bit can be installed on the Asrock Ryzen board, there is a way. For to test this, install a "Standard PC" XP on the Asrock board. And make an extra line in boot.ini for to change hal.dll and ntoskrnl from "Standard PC" to "MPS Muliprocessor". When it hangs also, with Windbg you can find the reason Dietmar |
| #511 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 programmable interrupt controller is connected to PCI standard ISA bridge - is this normal? |
| #512 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus, yes this is PIC mode (only 16 IRQ). The same happens during install of XP SP3 on the Asrock Ryzen board. Something went wrong, so that XP tries to install PIC mode. I have never seen this before. It has nothing to do with ACPI, because this error is gone when you install "Acpi-PC" (is in PIC mode) Dietmar |
| #513 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 programmable interrupt controller is connected to PCI standard ISA bridge in windows 10 too maybe XP ISA bridge driver is causing this problem? |
| #514 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus When ACPI is enabled, XP forget about the MPTABLE. This may be the reason, why Vista works. So, if there is an error in this MPTABLE, with using of ACPI it never comes to the light. ⇗ https://community.osr.com/discussion/249...pic-lying-to-me ⇗ https://coreboot.coreboot.narkive.com/XG...brios-mouse-fix Dietmar |
| #515 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 by MPTABLE do you mean MADT table? |
| #516 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I did a search for "apic" in Bios with the UEFI-Tool. A *.raw entry I do not find via "apic" search. So, I have no idea, which table sets the correct apic values for MPS multiprocessor Dietmar PS: I am quiet sure, that it is an error in Bios. Bios for Ryzen can not handle MPS multiprocessor. In Linux we have for kernel configuration pirq= [SMP,APIC] Manual mp-table setup See Documentation/x86/i386/IO-APIC.txt. EDIT: I just find that: ⇗ https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/742964/ The APIC ids provided by ACPI are not required to be the same as the > initial APIC id which can be retrieved by CPUID. The APIC ids provided > by ACPI are those which are written by the BIOS into the APIC. The > initial id is set by hardware and can not be changed. The hardware > provided ids contain the real hardware package information. > > Especially AMD sets the effective APIC id different from the hardware id > as they need to reserve space for the IOAPIC ids starting at id 0. > > As a consequence those machines trigger the currently active firmware > bug printouts in dmesg, These are obviously wrong. > |
| #517 | diderius6 | Yes, I was right: With RW everything on working XP SP3 (Standard PC) on the Ryzen Asrock board I get, when I click MPS (is entry for table there, not in ACPI): MP Configuration Table not found! Dietmar PS: This is the very first Bios for me, without an MPSTABLE. |
| #518 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Does the XP friendly Z390 motherboard still have an MPSTABLE? |
| #519 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I do not know, but I will have a look at. On the Asus X Apex z370 board I can install MPS multiprocessor. The big problem for XP on Ryzen board is, that you cant enable APIC mode, only PIC with 16 IRQs. For to test this, I leave everything as before on XP SP3 on Asrock Ryzen board. I only change hal.dll against halapic.dll. This means, no MPS, no ACPI is asked for, only "Standard PC" with one cpu but APIC ("Standard PC" has PIC mode nativ with hal.dll). And with APIC (halapic.dll) the PC hangs with blinking cursor, exact as the situation is during install Dietmar |
| #520 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 if you replace in DSDT Table? no change? Method (_PIC, 1, NotSerialized) // _PIC: Interrupt Model { If (Arg0) { DBG8 = 0xAA } Else { DBG8 = 0xAC } PICM = Arg0 } |
| #521 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus With "Standard PC" the DSDT table is not loaded. I make a try to install the uniata driver. It installs, but then tells, not enough resources left (error 12) even I disable nearly all in device manager. The reason, why this happens may be also because only 16 IRQs are free in PIC mode and if the driver used something like for example IRQ 22, it will not work Dietmar |
| #522 | diderius6 | This is interesting "The IRQ issue, as it turns out, originates at the chipset, rather than the CPU. While running AMD's chipsets A320 and B350 in PIC mode (versus APIC mode), the interrupt mode could not be set to level, which is needed to share IRQ's among several devices. In addition, while running in the edge mode, we discovered that the signal levels seemed to be inverted. This led to the loss of IRQ's and consequently, the driver was not receiving any reply to its device commands. Of course we have contacted AMD to inform them of our findings. At this time, we are awaiting their response. We will keep you updated. Stay tuned!" |
| #523 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I meant - if you replace the _PIC method in DSDT table does it enter Advanced PIC mode? |
| #524 | diderius6 | The DSDT table is just not loaded, complete ignored in "Standard PC" Dietmar |
| #525 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Have you tried "ACPI multiprocessor" option in XP setup after replacing _PIC in DSDT Table? If you did, does it fix A5 BSOD? |
| #526 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus yes, when you succeed with "ACPI multiprocessor" , the problem with APIC may be just overridden. This is what I think, what Vista 32 bit is doing. I make a try with the modified acpi.sys from Vista 5048, which I post here and connect to a Windbg session from an XP SP3 with full Acpi support from an AM3+ board Dietmar EDIT: Now I have a full XP SP3 (from an AM3+ board) with extra boot.ini entries multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /KERNEL=nt1.exe /HAL=hal1.dll multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /KERNEL=ntoskrnl.exe /HAL=hal.dll First is full Multiprocessor Acpi and second is "Standard PC" PIC modus, one cpu, no Acpi. Second entry works as "Standard PC". First gives BSOD 0x7E C0000005 and acpi.sys ist there ,even the modified acpi.sys 5048 from Vista. 0xC0000005: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION indicates a memory access violation occurred. yepp, this has to be solved, Dietmar |
| #527 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 do you get C0000005 error with server 2003 acpi.sys too? |
| #528 | diderius6 | Yes. It is the problem with APIC, I am quite sure. But take a look at this: XP on Ryzen, with Acpi enabled and without at the same time, such fun is only possible in XP Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #529 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 After XP Microsoft unified the HAL, so for Vista and later - ACPI-only - no other option |
| #530 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 there is a new function in windows 7 ntoskrnl - HvlWriteApicCommandRegister |
| #531 | diderius6 | I set up a windbg session. For ACPI multiprocessor I get EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%08lx referenced memory at 0x%08lx. Die Daten wurden wegen eines E/A-Fehlers in "0x%081x" nicht in den Arbeitsspeicher übertragen. Dietmar |
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| #533 | diderius6 | Interesting, if this an error in some AM4 chipsets: "The IRQ issue, as it turns out, originates at the chipset, rather than the CPU. While running AMD's chipsets A320 and B350 in PIC mode (versus APIC mode), the interrupt mode could not be set to level, which is needed to share IRQ's among several devices. In addition, while running in the edge mode, we discovered that the signal levels seemed to be inverted. This led to the loss of IRQ's and consequently, the driver was not receiving any reply to its device commands." This would mean, that on other AM4 chipsets this APIC error (compi stays in PIC mode) not appears, for example A/B300 X300 X370 B450 X470 Would be nice, to hear about acpi results for XP SP3 boot on those platforms Dietmar PS: With my modified acpi.sys from XP SP3 I get the error: Acpi tries to enable PIC mode, but fails. Because this is a B350 chipset, it may be just true. |
| #534 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #533 The chipsets are very similar, I would assume same result on the B400 series as with B300 series |
| #535 | diderius6 | I just notice, that no version of Vista can be installed on Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4. It tells: "compi not ACPI conform" Dietmar PS: Now I am sure, that it is a bug in the chipset B350 and /or in its Bios. XP can only be installed there, because it can be done in PIC mode for one cpu (Standard PC). I try a lot of Vista BETA versions, allways the same. If a beta version starts to install Vista (Longhorn) few moment later comes BSOD 0x7E c0000005 acpi.sys error. The problem is just, that Bios offers only PIC mode (16 IRQs) and not APIC mode (24 Irqs). |
| #536 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 any luck installing windows 7? |
| #537 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I cant install Win7 32 bit on MBR on Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 via original DVD (from 2009, no service pack at all). Compi shows on reboot error c0000007. I use Ryzen 1700 with 8 cores 16 threads. But using the files from another compi works with full ACPI and Hyperthreading as you can see on photo. This is astonishing, how legacy Win7 32 bit (non UEFI) manage the PIC modus from this Bios. May be, it takes only very basics information from Bios and builds everything else by itself Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #538 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can we copy APIC from AM3 or FM2+ system BIOS and apply to AM4? |
| #539 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I read a lot about PIC and APIC mode in Bios. As far as I see, nobody else succeed to build a XP, with both "Standard PC" and "Acpi Multiprocessor" at the same time. I read, that somebody, who builds embedded PC s for XP was looking like crazy for such a solution. I dont understand, where the switch between PIC and APIC mode is in Bios. May be its just one value of a variable, Arg0 (?) which can be hacked. Some BIOS are on a black list and XP always install PIC modus even Bios offers (faulty) APIC mode. Somebody told, that the MPS multiprocessor table is a good test, if a BIOS works in APIC mode. I agree, but on this Bios we have no MPS Dietmar PS: Interesting if there is a MPS table on any AM4 Bios. Just install RW everything and click on MPS. On Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 there is none. But may be on other chipsets for AM4 there is. And I also have no idea, where this table is in Bios located. |
| #540 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 in XP unfriendly DSDT on ab350 gaming k4 Device (SBRG) { Name (_ADR, 0x00140003) // _ADR: Address Device (PIC) { Name (_HID, EisaId ("PNP0000") /* 8259-compatible Programmable Interrupt Controller */) // _HID: Hardware ID Name (_CRS, ResourceTemplate () // _CRS: Current Resource Settings { IO (Decode16, 0x0020, // Range Minimum 0x0020, // Range Maximum 0x00, // Alignment 0x02, // Length ) IO (Decode16, 0x00A0, // Range Minimum 0x00A0, // Range Maximum 0x00, // Alignment 0x02, // Length ) IRQNoFlags () {2} }) } Device PIC is part of SBRG? compare XP friendly Device (PIC) { Name (_HID, EisaId ("PNP0000") /* 8259-compatible Programmable Interrupt Controller */) // _HID: Hardware ID Name (_CRS, ResourceTemplate () // _CRS: Current Resource Settings { IO (Decode16, 0x0020, // Range Minimum 0x0020, // Range Maximum 0x00, // Alignment 0x02, // Length ) IO (Decode16, 0x00A0, // Range Minimum 0x00A0, // Range Maximum 0x00, // Alignment 0x02, // Length ) IRQNoFlags () {2} }) } close bracket? possible solution? Device (SBRG) { Name (_ADR, 0x00140003) // _ADR: Address } Device (PIC) { Name (_HID, EisaId ("PNP0000") /* 8259-compatible Programmable Interrupt Controller */) // _HID: Hardware ID Name (_CRS, ResourceTemplate () // _CRS: Current Resource Settings { IO (Decode16, 0x0020, // Range Minimum 0x0020, // Range Maximum 0x00, // Alignment 0x02, // Length ) IO (Decode16, 0x00A0, // Range Minimum 0x00A0, // Range Maximum 0x00, // Alignment 0x02, // Length ) IRQNoFlags () {2} }) } maybe? |
| #541 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I found the Hexpattern, where _MP_ is recogniced. It is 5F4D505F. Via this way I found the MP table in Bios from Apex X board. It is located in Bios in ACPI Section_PE32_image_ACPI Dietmar PS: Via this way, all Bios from other AM4 chipsets can be tested for _MP_ table. I just test this. The PRIME-X470-PRO-ASUS-4602 Bios also has no _MP_ table. EDIT: The 8259-compatible Programmable Interrupt Controller is the part for PIC mode. But where is the same for APIC? ⇗ https://habr.com/en/post/446312/ ⇗ https://wiki.osdev.org/IOAPIC ⇗ https://wiki.osdev.org/MADT |
| #542 | diderius6 | Yesssssa, I find the cause of all evel in APIC for XP in Bios FACP tableSignature "FACP" Crazy, so the Bios from Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 is really a PIC mode Bios, like 30 years ago Dietmar |
| #543 | diderius6 | This can be hacked, like I did with the timer and s4e method: Before Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 after Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 Dietmar |
| #544 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 so in FACP table Interrupt Mode 0x00 (0) - Dual PIC should be Interrupt Mode 0x01 is this correct? |
| #545 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes. Interrupt Mode 0x00 (0) - Dual PIC --> Interrupt Mode 0x01 (1) - Multiple APIC When you read, how APIC works, you see, that each cpu core builds an own local Apic. And all together, the chipset with integrated apic controller (!) makes a working (or not working) Apic from it. So, I am not sure, if this is a symptom in FACP or the cure:)). Until know, I do not find the location of FACP in Bios. When you look for string "FACP" with Uefi-Tool you get some adresses. But how the table facp is build from it, I dont know. The hack in Bios would be simple Dietmar |
| #546 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 my guess is FACP is located in Section_PE32_image_ACPI_ACPI_body.efi I think XSDT is there too I don't know how to extract the FACP from the EFI module though |
| #547 | diderius6 | I succeed to install USB2.0 and full USB 3.1 support on the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 for XP SP3 Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #548 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 which driver version did you use for USB 3.0/3.1? |
| #549 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 i'm not 100% sure, butyou may find this useful? Windows Vista ACPI information, incl. advice on common problems in ACPI implementations ⇗ http://download.microsoft.com/download/5...CPA002_WH06.ppt edit: according to this presentation, you need a checked build of acpi.sys to load ACPI tables from registry? |
| #550 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus There are nice tips for to work with windbg, especially on BSOD 0x7E. About USB3.1 on the AMD Asrock board: First I copy all USB XP SP1 files (see attach down here) to folder windows\system32\drivers on AMD XP SP3. Then from device manager I install USB 3.1 files, first xhci, then, when windows ask for it, the hub driver Dietmar EDIT: No need for checked build of acpi.sys (I have for XP, but does not help anything). XP always reads dsdt, facp tables from registry. What may be different with checked acpi.sys is, that this driver ONLY looks at registry, while normal XP acpi.sys reads the entries in registry, which are always loaded new from Bios on next boot. So, like with the Microsoft tool, you can make an order list of entries for dsdt, facp in registry, newest files are loaded then. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #551 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Thanks for the USB drivers. I recall you saying that server 2003 acpi.sys had ACPI 2.0 words compared to XP ACPI 1.0 words so can checked server 2003 acpi.sys with ACPI 2.0 words help diagnose the problem? p.s I assume acpi.sys 5048 is an unchecked version? |
| #552 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 do you have a copy of debug ntkrnlmp.exe for XP? I have found server 2003 version but not XP version |
| #553 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Here it is, englisch debug version XP SP3 32 bit ntkrnlmp.exe Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #554 | diderius6 | Hi, I am happy, when all AMD Ryzen users can make a quick test via rw-everything, if there is a MPS table on their board. For this, just click MPS on top of the RW-everything window Dietmar |
| #555 | diderius6 | May be a Linux installation on the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 can give more information about the not working APIC mode. Any help using diagnostic tools in Linux is welcome. Yesterday I booted this board write protect with an XP from an AM3+ board. Again the 0x7E 0xc0000005 error ACPI.sys error (I use the modified 5048 acpi.sys, which works perfect on intel boards.) This is strange, because the FACP and DSDT table are now read from the AM3+ board, because of writeprotect. This would mean: The BSOD happens not because of broken Bios. More and more I come to the conclusion, that the APIC controller in the B320 and B350 AMD chipsets has an error Dietmar EDIT: May be this problem with APIC is related to 32 bit (adress room), and because of this, there is no support for legacy Win7 32 bit for Ryzen. I saw computers with B320 or B350 chipset with Ryzen cpu, which fails during install Win7 32 bit via Acpi.sys error. It depends not on the ryzen cpu, I tested. |
| #556 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Thanks for XP checked ntkrnlmp server 2003 checked acpi.sys calls missing function not in XP - DbgCommandString damn |
| #557 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Here it is, original XP SP3 32 bit english acpi.sys debug version, until now not modified, because big differences in normal acpi.sys version and debug Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #558 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Thanks regarding MPS table - can this be added into BIOS for AB350 gaming K4? or would MPS be unnecessary if we can make APIC work? |
| #559 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus MPS table helps you to see at once, if the compi can work in APIC mode. Without MPS, you cant say nothing:)). No real need for the MPS table, but via MPS you can decide, wether it is an APIC versus PIC problem or just something went wrong with ACPI.sys. On the Asrock B350 board, for sure something went wrong with APIC, and acpi.sys crashes in follow of only PIC mode (no multiprocessor) Dietmar |
| #560 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you send me a full acpidump (all tables) of your XP friendly AM3+ board? I don't have an AM3+ board of my own |
| #561 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Here it the acpidump, translated to human readable. This Bios from AM3+ FX-8350 processor on MSI 760gma-p34 (fx) board (first version) has an MPS table, in FACP you can see, that APIC mode is enabled and really everything works nice in XP SP3, especially MPS multiprocessor and ACPI multiprocessor Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #562 | diderius6 | Waaaoh, my idea about BSOD from acpi (no apic, only pic model) because of 32 bit is right. Just in this moment I install legacy Vista 64 bit (very first version from 2007) on MBR. Now it is clear, why there is no legacy Win7 32 bit support for the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board Dietmar |
| #563 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Thanks, was it just these 4 tables? can i get the raw acpidump output file so it gives everything? acpidump -o am3dump |
| #564 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus acpidump looks only at registry and in registry hardware are only this 4 files. rw-everything looks in Bios, but it crashes, because it does not like acpi and nonacpi model at the same time Dietmar |
| #565 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 OK, Thanks do you know if the facp table is actually generated at boot or stored in BIOS? |
| #566 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The FACP table is build on boottime always new from XP (with an unknown algorithmus), during reading from Bios. But you can fake the FACP table, because hal.dll of XP looks only in registry. I have done this for the timer and the fake FACP table works. Here with the Asrock board we have the problem, that there is no FACP table build in Bios, because of no Acpi. With some handwork, it is possible to build such a hardware entry in registry for ACPI for all the 4 tables by hand. But the result would be the same BSOD 0x7E 0xC0000005 Dietmar PS: At the moment I download Ubuntu 16.04 (32-bit), this is the last version for 32 bit support. I hope to get some more information, at which place the APIC mode crashes, as it depends on those 32 bit. |
| #567 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 there is also manjaro linux maintaining a 32-bit version if you want something more recent |
| #568 | diderius6 | Here ist the registry entry (under hardware) for all ACPI tables Vista 64 bit for the Asrock board. On XP SP3 32 bit it should be 100% identic Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #569 | diderius6 | I just make a try with faked
FACP chosing APIC model there (instead of PIC). This registry entry ACPI
I added to working XP on the Asrock board. I tested with acpidump, acpixtract, iasl -d there ok, now APIC model is told there^^. Shut it down. Then I copy everything to a write protected USB stick, now really funs starts Dietmar EDIT: Still the same BSOD 0x7E 0xC0000005, brrr.. So, it is a serious problem in 32 bit. Now I install Ubuntu 16, 32 bit on the Asrock board. I think, the problem with APIC mode will remain there. OK, first message during install Ubuntu is: Unknown hardware.. One time starting Firefox, it crashes. Really stable OS, brrr... Funny, together with crashed Firefox (in black and white, looks interesting^^), now Ubuntu 32 bit is updating:)). I also downloaded Arch 32 Linux distro from march 2019 and MX Linux 32. We will see. Until now, I think Win95 is the better choice, crazy.. |
| #570 | diderius6 | Ok, this is advantage in Ubuntu 32 bit after 30 min update on Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4^^ ⇗ ![]() After total fail of Ubuntu now next try with MX-Linux 32 bit from Mai 2019 Dietmar EDIT: MX-Linux 32 bit: No crash of Firefox, no mouse, english keyboard (no german keyboard layout can be chosen) but sound and network, youtube works. In the beginning there was a possibility to cancel Acpi. But at the moment I think all 8 core with 16 threads work with Acpi on this Linux 32 bit version. Ok, clock wrong, micro letters on screen, no possibility to change this on screen.. Oho, my own password, which I have put in repeated, is now told to be wrong^^..arghhh And take a look at the symbols, left down,..ok I try Arch Linux 32.. ⇗ ![]() Arch Linux shows only commandline after boot. And when you look for installed hardware, system told: string empty.. Ok, for today its enough with Linux.. I want win95:)) |
| #571 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ https://linuxmint.com/download.php try linux mint 32bit - xfce (easier to run, less resources) |
| #572 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 If Win95 doesn't work I know for sure Win98SE works as I have it installed |
| #573 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Thanks for the link for the Linux Mint 32bit xfce, I just downloaded it. I take a closer look at the XP friendly DSDT from AM3+ compared with the DSDT from the Asrock board AM4. In AM3+ DSDT we have in header * Revision 0x01 **** 32-bit table (V1), no 64-bit math support It is the compi from my daughter. She installed there Win10 64 bit, so this does not mean, that 64 bit OS do not work. But vice versa is true, with the DSDT table of any(?) AM4 board big problems with 32 bit OS. There exist also AM3+ boards (SABERTOOTH-990FX-R20-ASUS) with Acpi2.0 and working XP on it. In header then is written * Revision 0x02. So, the problem with XP 32 bit depends not on the Revisions number. Question is, if it enough to modify DSDT only to XP friendly Dietmar |
| #574 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you change DSDT revision with registry mod and test? or find the part in acpi.sys that checks DSDT revision? |
| #575 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus There is no part in acpi.sys that checks DSDT version. This entry in DSDT is only for human. acpi.sys stupid reads DSDT loaded to ram and crashes or not Dietmar PS: Question is, if with any new DSDT table XP 32 bit can work in APIC mode on AM4 chipset or not. |
| #576 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 you can force iasl to produce revision 1 math from original disassembled revision 2 table iasl -r1 revision2to1.dsl |
| #577 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus This is a nice tip iasl -r1 revision2to1.dsl, until now I get an 1 error message when I try, without writing,# where this error is Dietmar |
| #578 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yessa, I succeed with it. Now it becomes really interesting Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #579 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 is this DSDT from AB350 GamingK4 (BIOS 5.40) - converted to revision 1? |
| #580 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus yessss:)) And here are the belonging *.aml files. They are very different from each other, compare with Winhex shows more than 20000 places different. So, may be we are on the right way Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #581 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 the presence of CreateQWordField wont cause problems? |
| #582 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I think not. But this we will see in next BSOD^^ I am going to flash this DSDT on my new Asrock board, big risk, but no fun without risk^^ Dietmar |
| #583 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Good luck, If this DSDT does not work you can try an earlier version in BIOS 3.30 for AB350 Gaming K4 that does not have CreateQWordField in it |
| #584 | diderius6 | Hm, strange things happen. I first read out the Bios chip on the Asrock board with tl866ii plus, 25u12873f. mx25u12835f is found via tl866ii plus with the identic chip ID 0xc22538. Before the Bios chip was recogniced, I have to put out cpu, cmos battery and ram. Then I make 2 copies of the Bios chip and compare them. They are to 100% identic. Then I compare them with the read out from the Bios chip made with Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit 2.0.exe. They are different, hm.. The tool just ordered some blocks in Bios for boot devices different, as I can see with Beyond Compare2. Then I change in the Bios (read out made with Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit 2.0.exe) the DSDT file vers 2->vers 1. I read those DSDT files out again, all ok. Then I erase the Bios chip, flash with modded DSDT and verify it after. All seems ok. After putting cpu, cmos battery and ram in again, compi starts. But now comes the most crazy thing: With rw-everything looking for DSDT table I was told vers 2 and nothing has changed. Now I think, there is some kind of write protect for this Bios chip. But the tl866ii plus told nothing about this, strange Dietmar |
| #585 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 maybe try AFUDOS tool to flash modded BIOS? reference guide ⇗ https://puissanceled.com/vrac/Bios_modding/EN.html |
| #586 | diderius6 | Now comes the mostmost crazy: I read out again whole Bios with the Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit 2.0.exe. And from this read out I extract with Uefi tool the DSDT table. And the most most crazy is, the DSDT table has changed to version 1, no doubt. But what does rw-everything tell then? From where it gots its infomation??? For sure not from the real BIOS Dietmar PS: I add the new read out from Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit 2.0.exe. This means, the crazy flash procedure has had success. But may be to do this with the AFUDOS tool is more elegant. Anyway, the way I did it works. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #587 | diderius6 | Waaaoooh, with the new DSDT table I can install Vista 32 bit on the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4!!! What a BIG step forward Dietmar |
| #588 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 thats good news! any luck with XP? |
| #589 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus On Vista 5048 and on XP Acpi Multiprocessor I still get the BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 Dietmar PS: The MPS Multiprocessor also not works, because still no MPS table there. But this is not importand for XP. |
| #590 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 do you get 7E BSOD with server 2003 SP2 acpi.sys? |
| #591 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I tested Win server 2003 SP2 for itself. It gives BSOD 0xA5 0x11 0x08 as usual. For me is at the moment the most important, if APIC mode works now, this I am just testing with XP and halapic.dll Dietmar EDIT: APIC mode still does not work. And because of this no ACPI too. The problem in this is, that the BSOD because of APIC happens so early, that windbg is not awaken. Vista 32 bit overcomes this problem in some way, but how? |
| #592 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 there is also still the BIOS 3.30 DSDT to try without CreateQWordField |
| #593 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The BSOD because of unknown words from ACPI2.0 is other. But who knows:)) Dietmar |
| #594 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 try it anyway, see what happens |
| #595 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I just tried the afudos methode. But there comes 46 - Error: Problem getting flash information. "Error 46: Problem Getting Flash Information, it's because you aren't using afudos." Yes, the flash program here for Asrock board is another. Ok, I make try the hard way as before, I just have Bios vers. 3.30 mod ready with DSDT table vers1 for 32 bit Dietmar |
| #596 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 46 - Error: Problem getting flash information. did you use /gan switches? afudos modbios.rom /gan |
| #597 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes, I use this switch but the afudos program does not work at all for the Asrock board. There has to be another program (may be with the same name "Afudos" but from other manufacturer) for to flash the Asrock board. Interesting, in Bios 3.30 for the Asrock board there is in FACP APIC mode enabled. So, there is a big BREAK in Bios before and after 3.30 Bios for this Board. Vista 32 bit likes this, you can install it at once. But XP APIC does not work. Ok, now I am going to flash DSDT table with vers 1 32 Bit Dietmar |
| #598 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus From where you know this switch and are there other important switches for iasl? iasl -r1 revision2to1.dsl Dietmar |
| #599 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 from iasl -h help -r <revision> Override table header Revision (1-255) |
| #600 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Ok, compi survived second crazy flash operation. Bios is now 3.30 with rev1 DSDT table. Now rw-everything told also rev 1 in DSDT table and APIC mode in FACP. But XP still crashes with the same BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 and APIC does not work in XP, only PIC with 16 IRQs Dietmar PS: Now this is the 32 bit friendliest Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board ever, you can install all systems only XP 32 bit not, until now:))! diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #601 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 maybe we need to look at changing the revisions for the other tables? just a guess, not sure edit: APIC table maybe? ⇗ https://wiki.osdev.org/MADT |
| #602 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Today I think half of the work for full XP is done. XP SP3 looks now like HYPER Win98SE, nvme Optane works, just everything and this with one cpu and one thread, because APIC not works Dietmar ⇗ ![]() EDIT: Even boot XP SP3 from the nvme Optane disk as only device connected to the Asrock board works. I put for this ntoskrnl.exe and hal.dll (PIC mode) in windows\system32 and in boot.ini of the Optane boot device I rename them to nt1.exe and hal1.dll, waaoh. ⇗ ![]() |
| #603 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I make a try to change the rev number of the APIC (same as MADT) table. But this time it does not work. Always rev3 is written in header no matter if you change this to rev1 or rev2 and the table stays to 100% identic Dietmar |
| #604 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 as a last resort you could try replacing entire DSDT with a known XP compatible? in this case an ASRock 970A-G3 motherboard infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #605 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Oh, I do not give up so quick:)). I noticed a strange thing: When I install Vista 32 bit on the AM3+ board, the driver for the Asmedia 106x SATA harddisk was found at once on the Vista CD. But when I install Vista 32 bit to the Asrock board, Vista aks for this driver for the harddisk even it has the identic Asmedia 106x chip! No USB at all works on the Asrock board during install of Vista, no PS/2 mouse. This means: No hardware is identified at all on the Asrock board. The Bios from the Asrock board cant show all its hardware correct to Vista or XP. This may be the fault of the chipset B350, who knows. Hm, what can they change on Vista, that this gives NOW (former versions of Vista give) not the BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005? Vista learned, to survive with such a crazy situation. (By the way, I think this was the reason for the complete fail of Ubuntu. In the very first boot stage Ubuntu tells: Unknown hardware (not unknown CPU or something like, whole hardware cant be identified)). I come to the idea, that they change something in hal.dll. XP cant help itself very good, so it disables everything and goes to PIC mode (blind for all hardware on the Asrock board). For Vista was the same, but it survives with this blindness because of more error tolerant hal.dll Dietmar PS: I will test this today. |
| #606 | diderius6 | Yessa, I am just installing XP SP3 in APIC multiprocessor mode on the Asrock board Dietmar EDIT: XP uses multiprocessor ntoskrnl.exe and renamed hal.dll to halsp.dll. But on next reboot it hangs, even XP is installed nearly complete. But this seems to be the right way. From Vista, version 5342 does not show the BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005, but it hangs during installation. |
| #607 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 why is vista 32-bit not detecting hardware? should we be using vista beta driver if vista release also has problems? |
| #608 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Good question. On the Vista versions after 5048, I always get no acpi.sys BSOD but it was told Blinitializelibrary failed 0xc0000017 I do not know this error, but for me its sound: Unknown hardware Dietmar |
| #609 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 acpi 5342 calls functions from ntoskrnl and hal that are not available in XP maybe that is the reason for error? |
| #610 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus No, you missunderstood me. This where all the original Vista versions >5048, which tells this error on the Asrock B350 board Dietmar |
| #611 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 after acpi 5048 I can only get "acpi.sys is corrupted" error when i try to install XP |
| #612 | diderius6 | May be, acpi.sys just tries to read in reserved low memory.FAULTING_IP: Because it is always the same error 0x7E 0xc0000005 Later I will set up a checked version of XP SP3 with windbg and amli debugger for to see, what is going on Dietmar PS: I think, with not modified Bios, Win7 32 bit also shows the same error Blinitializelibrary failed 0xc0000017. Now, with APIC Bios 3.30 on Asrock B350 Win7 32 bit installs without any problem. PPS: Or BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 happens, because we use more than 4 Gbyte ram and Xp does not like this on some motherboards? Needs to be tested. |
| #613 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 do you know where i can get a checked build of XP for myself? I managed to find a 2003 checked build but not XP |
| #614 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I think, I used a normal English XP SP2 version and succeed to update this to a full checked XP SP3 version only with a XP SP3 checked servicepack Dietmar |
| #615 | diderius6 | When I set up checked XP SP3 on the Asrock B350 board, I get now during "Multiprocessor Acpi" setup BSOD 0x7E 0x80000003 Dietmar EDIT: From Microsoft: If exception code 0x80000003 occurs, a hard-coded breakpoint or assertion was hit, but the system was started with the /NODEBUG switch. ⇗ https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...bf-13dc940cae63 |
| #616 | diderius6 | I set up debug modus via F8 and entry in boot.ini in checked XP SP3 setup during 2. phase of install (after reboot) because even with "Standard PC" the compi crashes. A lot of times I get via debug the message: "Impossible values from Hal", which means, XP SP3 cant work (good?) with the information of the Bios from Asrock B350 Dietmar Sun Jun 2 22:11:32.015 2019 (UTC + 2:00): HalpGetValidPCIFixedIrq: BIOS did not assign an interrupt vector for the device Sun Jun 2 22:11:32.015 2019 (UTC + 2:00): Sun Jun 2 22:11:32.109 2019 (UTC + 2:00): HAL: returning impossible range Sun Jun 2 22:11:32.109 2019 (UTC + 2:00): Sun Jun 2 22:11:32.250 2019 (UTC + 2:00): HalpGetValidPCIFixedIrq: BIOS did not assign an interrupt vector for the device Sun Jun 2 22:11:32.250 2019 (UTC + 2:00): Sun Jun 2 22:11:32.343 2019 (UTC + 2:00): HAL: returning impossible range Sun Jun 2 22:11:32.343 2019 (UTC + 2:00): Sun Jun 2 22:11:32.468 2019 (UTC + 2:00): HalpGetValidPCIFixedIrq: BIOS did not assign an interrupt vector for the device Sun Jun 2 22:11:32.468 2019 (UTC + 2:00): Sun Jun 2 22:11:32.562 2019 (UTC + 2:00): HAL: returning impossible range EDIT: Without debugger, XP SP3 debug version always crashs. With windbg it comes to desktop but slow. I want to use it for debugging acpi.sys, after I put halmacpi.dll and ntkrpamp.exe to windows\system32 , a line in boot.ini and acpi.sys there also. But even now is clear: XP does not know, how to set IRQs because missing information from Bios. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #617 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can XP handle IRQs like 0xFFFFFFF7 (-9) - IRQ of PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_7901 on windows 10 assuming we get APIC working |
| #618 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus XP handles normal APIC, means 24 IRQs. Yesterday it was a crazy work to install XP SP3 debug version "Standard PC" on the Asrock B350 board. It lasts more than 2 hours. And without debugger it always crashs because of not enough help, to assign Irqs to devices, from Bios. Today I make a full "Acpi Multiprocessor" install of this debug XP on the AM3+ XP friendly board. Because it is not possible, to switch from a "Standard PC" installation to "Acpi Multiprocessor", only vice versa Dietmar |
| #619 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 the acpitbls.rar file you sent earlier - can you send a new copy as binary? rw-everything -> save all as binary I'd like to try grub2 method again with these tables and it is easier to work with binary |
| #620 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus This installation is gone^^. Every day I install something new. I just install Vista 32 bit on the AM3+ XP friendly board. After, this will work on the Asrock Am4 board, and I will send to you the tables Dietmar PS: With all the Vista versions, I have the one by one test, what goes wrong with XP. |
| #621 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I made progress with grub2 method - also switched to AIO multiboot for newer grub2 version after DSDT replace - different ACPI BSOD using xp sp3 acpi.sys now BSOD A5 0x03 previously BSOD A5 0x11 ACPI 5048 new BSOD BSOD A5 0x0D ⇗ |
| #622 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 grub2 method is useful - it can replace DSDT and other ACPI tables without needing to flash BIOS grab a USB stick and download AIO multiboot ⇗ https://www.aioboot.com/en/download/ |
| #623 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Have you used the modified Acpi.sys 5048? I have a really crazy problem: After I install Vista 32 Bit (from 2007 original version) on the AM3+ friendly board, I try to start with this harddisk with fresh Vista 32 bit on it the AM4 Asrock Ryzen B350 board. But even the ASM106x driver works under XP SP3 for both boards, this was not true for the original Vista driver. I tried to manually install the driver in registry System\services in CriticalDeviceDatabase and in PCI. But even I can handle now Vista like XP (really funny, you can change registry between them, Vista is XP SP4(!)) Vista on the AM4 board crashes alswas, tolding me, I have to use chkdsk on the harddisk. I can check during system start of Vista, that the ASM106x driver asahci32.sys is not loaded. But while I write this, I come to the idea to install the XP driver ASM106x driver asahci32.sys on the running AM3+ board, Dietmar PS: BSOD 0xA5 0x0000000D from ⇗ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...acpi-bios-error |
| #624 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 yes, I tried the modified version first, I have not tried unmodified yet ULONG name - from BSOD 0x4449555f DIU_ - or _UID - There are several of those in DSDT so i am not sure which one? edit: regarding vista 32 bit - have you tried using "load driver" and loading ASMedia 106x driver during install? |
| #625 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes, but the problem is, that Vista does not recognice any USB on the Asrock board. Now I have a really funny situation: On the XP friendly AM3+ is the Asm106x driver loaded under Vista 32 bit and you can boot from. But on the Asrock board, this driver is not loaded from the same Vista 32 bit. This is crazy, there seems no ahci driver to be on the market, which run under Vista 32 bit on the Asrock B350 board Dietmar |
| #626 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I think vista generic msahci.sys driver conforms to AHCI 1.0 specification - the new boards are AHCI 1.3 specification ^ I may be wrong about this try integrating the ASMedia USB/AHCI drivers into boot.wim and install.wim images ⇗ https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/...-a-usb-3-0-port |
| #627 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I make a try to install Vista 5048 direct from working XP on the Asrock board. It starts installing, but on reboot it tolds Blinitializelibrary failed 0xc0000017 This is the same message, that all Vista 32 bit versions tell me now when I direct install via DVD. And before the same error message was told by Win7 32 bit, now not, I installed Win7 32 bit on the Asrock B350 Ryzen board. No BSOD because of Acpi with Vista 5048. I think this message means "unknown hardware" but I am not sure Dietmar PS: All other, later Vista 32 bit told me during install from running XP: Compi not Acpi compliant. |
| #628 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 To make things easier I recommend you setup AIO multiboot on a USB stick so you can start swapping ACPI tables using grub2 - easier than BIOS flash ⇗ https://www.aioboot.com/en/download/ |
| #629 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I see this and it is nice work! But before cure you need diagnosis:)). I read about the 0xc0000017 error, that Windows wrote: Not enough memory for ramdisk. So, all those errors seems to happen, because every version of Windows does not know how to manage the Bios information from the Asrock B350 board. Yesterday I got via Debugversion of XP a lot of times the message, that the values, that hal.dll gives to OS, are impossible. XP enables because of this PIC mode. When I see this, I looks like a miracle, that XP can run on this hardware anyway Dietmar "BlInitializeLibrary failed XXX" error when you install or start an operating system on a 64-bit UEFI-based computer Applies to: Windows 10, version 1809Windows Server 2019, all versionsWindows Server version 1709 and newer Symptoms When you try to install or start an operating system on a 64-bit UEFI-based computer, the system does not start, and you receive the following error message: BlInitializeLibrary failed XXX Note The error code could also be "0xc000009a" or "0xc0000001." Cause This problem occurs because the boot firmware on the computer generates lots of memory fragmentation. Note Not all "BlInitializeLibrary failed XXX" errors are caused by this issue. Workaround We recommend that you do not let boot firmware create large amounts of fragmentation. Large memory fragmentation degrades the overall startup performance and causes problems. More information At the pre-boot stage, Windows Boot Manager sets the maximum number of global memory descriptor for a 64-bit UEFI system at 512. If the boot firmware creates a large amount of memory fragmentation, the memory descriptor count may exceed the set limit. This causes the "BlInitializeLibrary failed XXX" error. Note This design applies only to the current operating system releases, including Windows 10, Windows Server 2016, and Windows Server 2012 R2. We do not guarantee that this design will apply to future versions. |
| #630 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 what is the equivalent function of BlInitializeLibrary for XP? Do we need to patch ntldr (osloader.exe) to allow for more global memory descriptors? to get osloader.exe - open ntldr in hex editor and look for MZ header and delete everything before it |
| #631 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus First I saw this BlInitializeLibrary on Win7 32 bit, when I try to do a new install on the Asrock B350 board. When I use a ready Win7 32 bit installation from another compi, this does not happen. So it depends on, how the Bios speaks to OS during installation. Using installation from other Bios does not show this problem Dietmar PS: After changing the DSDT table to pur 32 bit and go to Bios 3.30 with APIC mode, Win7 32 bit does not show this error any more during fresh install on the Asrock B350 board. It has nothing to do with Acpi. Only, how Bios told OS, where which free memory for a device has to be. XP goes out of this crazy situation using PIC mode with only 16 IRQs, nearly hard wired. |
| #632 | diderius6 | The error (not BSOD) Blinitializelibrary failed 0xc0000017 happens very early in bootprocess, about in 1. second when bootlader loads Dietmar |
| #633 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Blinitializelibrary failed - for Windows 7 or XP? edit: I found source code for win2k osloader - in it i find // // memory descriptor array size // #define MAX_DESCRIPTORS 60 |
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| #635 | infuscomus | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD I have run into a different error after loading an earlier DSDT table for AB350 Gaming K4 using grub2 .......... 0xA5 (0x02, X ,Y ,Z) conflict with E820 Memory list, solved (custom acpi.sys) Can I please try your custom acpi.sys to see if it works? |
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Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #635 e820 fix: ¶ Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts (16) |
| #637 | infuscomus | whoops! - parameter 3 is 0x1 -
so error actually is - ACPI cannot convert the BIOS' resource list into
the proper format. This probably represents an error in the BIOS' list
encoding procedure. ⇗ ⇗ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...acpi-bios-error |
| #638 | infuscomus | OK, made some changes to DSDT table now I think I have E820 error ⇗ ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD ⇗ @diderius6 I looked for the hex values you referenced earlier to fix E820 but could not find exact hex value in either XP SP3, server 2003 or vista 5048 acpi.sys |
| #639 | diderius6 | I make a try with Vista 5048 on the XP friendly Am3+ board. Again I get there this message Blinitializelibrary failed 0xc0000017. So, it seems to be a problem for the bootloader and not only in this Vista Version Dietmar |
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Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #638 check acpi.sys win xp sp3, size=187,776, ver 5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111) |
| #641 | infuscomus | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Thanks, is this function the same in server 2003 and vista 5048 acpi.sys? |
| #642 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you hex edit these XP boot loader files to sets the maximum number of global memory descriptors to 512? infuscomus has attached files to this post |
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Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #642 xp doesnt work with uefi(except winxp64+bootmgr), no mem descriptors, only short e820 list of mem regions. only in case of very large e820 list, xp has problem |
| #644 | infuscomus | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD looking at win2k ntldr source code it uses memory descriptors |
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Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #644 yes, uses, but only few, e820 is really short list, no need much descriptors to fit all regions |
| #646 | infuscomus | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD ⇗ @diderius6 So I bypassed E820 BSOD error with hex edit to acpi.sys - damn! 7E BSOD |
| #647 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes, this is the same, that happens to me. This is best until now, what you can reach for Acpi on the Asrock board. Until now, it is absolut unclear, why this BSOD 7E happens, means Acpi.sys writes or looks in forbidden memory.. I also cant install a full XP SP3 debug version on the XP friendly AM3+ board. Today I make a new try: I change the ram on the Asrock B350 board against 2*2Gbyte DDR4 ram. Then I make a brandnew install of normal XP SP3 on the AM3+ board, no extra drivers, only the Asm106x for harddsik. This full Acpi XP I copie then to the Asrock board. There I change hal.dll, acpi.sys, ntoskrnl.exe against them from the XP SP3 debug version and set up a windbg session Dietmar |
| #648 | diderius6 | Diagnostic is on its way:))..
I put on normal XP SP3 change acpi.sys, halmacpi.dll, ntkrnlmp.exe to
the XP SP3 DEBUG version and run windbg
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| #649 | diderius6 | May be the device HPET has to be deleted in DSDT:Device (HPET) Dietmar |
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| #651 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Yes, I see this. Question is, if there is no pointer at all for the IRQ devices build by ACPI on the Asrock B350 board, or if the edi is just not loaded with it Dietmar |
| #652 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD | edi must point to some struct with list of proc (like methods in c++) wrong was before this call *** Assertion failed: PciInterfacesInstantiated *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\busdrv\acpi\driver\nt\irqarb.c, line 3512 *** Assertion failed: pciInterface *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\busdrv\acpi\driver\nt\irqarb.c, line 3518 |
| #653 | diderius6 | But what can be done, to solve this? Dietmar |
| #654 | diderius6 | Now, all 16 cores are identified via windbg and the first message is gone *** Assertion failed: PciInterfacesInstantiated *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\busdrv\acpi\driver\nt\irqarb.c, line 3512
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| #655 | diderius6 | I delete the Hpet device in DSDT, flash Bios new, but same BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 as before Dietmar |
| #656 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 testing with grub2, i notice that if i use acpi --no-ebda I always get 7E BSOD from grub2 documentation: Normally, this command will replace the Root System Description Pointer (RSDP) in the Extended BIOS Data Area to point to the new tables. If the --no-ebda option is used, the new tables will be known only to GRUB, but may be used by GRUBs EFI emulation. if I use command without --no-ebda acpi /facp.dat /dsdt.dat I get A5 BSOD A5 0x02 or 0x0D so maybe for 7E BSOD there is an error in Extended BIOS Data Area? |
| #657 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I think, it is a problem with all the timers for XP. I read, that in Qemu they have the same BSOD with the Hpet timer. ⇗ https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/312207/ And even more, in win7 is a conflict between the other both timers, using Irq 0 and Irq 8. When I look at my XP without Acpi on the Asrock B350 board, no timer at all(!) can be seen in the device list. The Irq 0 and Irq 8 are not used there. So, may be the other both timers have to be deleted in DSDT also. Until now, I have no other idea, why acpi not works Dietmar |
| #658 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 are you able to get the same BSODs I get using grub2? |
| #659 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus yes, my modded Bios for the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 is so good now, that I can use the normal acpi.sys from XP SP3. I am quite sure, that the BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 comes from the Hpet clock. Now I am on the way for next try. In FACP, the bit for the Hpet timer is enabled. This I try to set back to zero. From my experiance from intel boards, there are Bios with hard wired Hpet clocks. But even in this case, because XP reads registry and not Bios for Acpi, it is possible to fake the FACP table there Dietmar EDIT: Until now, in FACP there are the Hexvalues A5 85 03 00. They need to be changed to A5 05 03 00. EDIT2: I succeed to set the USE_PLATFORM_CLOCK 0 - OSPM may use HPET, ACPI PM Timer or internal Timer and flash this Bios. This I test with RW-everything. But after this crazy hack still the BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005. |
| #660 | diderius6 | All devices are set to Irq 0, pcitree is empty. The pointer for Irqs is empty.
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| #661 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 grub2 method gets rid of 7E BSOD, but there are still A5 0x02 and 0x0D errors to fix |
| #662 | diderius6 | I found all this errors via Ida Pro in the Debug version of acpi.sys *** Assertion failed: PciInterfacesInstantiated *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\busdrv\acpi\driver\nt\irqarb.c, line 3512 *** Assertion failed: pciInterface *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\busdrv\acpi\driver\nt\irqarb.c, line 3518 They can be easy hacked, but what is the real underlying problem? Is there a PciInterface in Bios or not? In the Bios from the Asrock B350 board there is a switch "Hpet table". It has no effekt for XP, if I enable or disable this. I read, that the Hpet timer cant be disabled at all on the Ryzen boards Dietmar |
| #663 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I'm guessing that part of the problem is the Root System Description Pointer (RSDP) in the Extended BIOS Data Area since replacing that when using grub2 makes the 7E BSOD go away |
| #664 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Here is my registry extract from all the Acpi tables from Win7 32 bit from my Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4. Under Win7 32 bit it works perfect Dietmar PS: I make a new try to install Vista 32 bit. Everything looks good, no comment about incompatible Acpi, but at reboot after first install I get BSOD 0x7B. It has nothing to do with the boot device. Vista 32 bit also dont like to run on the Asrock board (it has forced Acpi) but Vista 64 bit works there. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #665 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 So we need to figure out whatever windows 7 acpi.sys driver is doing to make it work? |
| #666 | diderius6 | I still find with RW-everything in the Hpet table this entry, even it is disabled in Bios: Bit[15]=LegacyReplacement IRQ Routing Capable With cpu-z (tools timers) I can see, that in XP and Win7 the Hpet timer is empty. There are 3 clocks shown and work: ACPI, QPC, RTC (same in Win7 and XP). So, may be really Hpet is the one and only reason for BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 Dietmar |
| #667 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD May be, you or Mov AX, 0xDEAD can load this Acpi tables, which I send to registry of this Asrock board B350 and this is all to make Acpi work in XP Dietmar PS: I think, Win7 has learned to survive with Hpet. |
| #668 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 so how do we properly disable HPET? |
| #669 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I dont know. The authors from qemu use the switch -no-hpet Disable HPET support. -acpitable [sig=str][,rev=n][,oem_id=str][,oem_table_id=str][,oem_rev=n] [,asl_compiler_id=str][,asl_compiler_rev=n][,data=file1[:file2]...] Add ACPI table with specified header fields and context from specified files. For file=, take whole ACPI table from the specified files, including all ACPI headers (possible overridden by other options). For data=, only data portion of the table is used, all header information is specified in the command line. If a SLIC table is supplied to QEMU, then the SLICs oem_id and oem_table_id fields will override the same in the RSDT and the FADT (a.k.a. FACP), in order to ensure the field matches required by the Microsoft SLIC spec and the ACPI spec. Dietmar |
| #670 | diderius6 | Is it possible to install Qemu on Win7 32 bit and install in this Qemu an Acpi XP SP3 Dietmar |
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Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #668 by default win doesnt use hpet, force disabling: - remove hpet acpi table - set status of device in dsdt to Zero, (method _sta) |
| #673 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD How can single Acpi tables like hpet acpi table been removed? There is no *.raw entry for them in Bios, even not the table itself is listed there, I think needs an algorithmus to build the pur table (also for example FACP) Dietmar |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #673 rename header of table to HPEZ for example but be ready to hang bios if it check for signature HPET |
| #675 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I tested your DSDT export from windows 7 in XP - 7E BSOD ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Do you know to write ASL code? to at least make progress on solving A5 02 and 0D BSODs with grub2 method? |
| #676 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I make next try: With Uefi tool I found 6 places with ASCII HPET. I will extract each of those 6 bodies, rename one by one there with Winhex HPET -> HPEU HPEV HPEW HPEX HPEY HPEZ, change body with Uefi tool and flash whole Bios Dietmar ⇗ https://ibb.co/vjmSYsc EDIT: Funny, HPET table has now name HPEU in rw-everything, but BSOD is still 0x7E 0xc0000005, grrr^^.. But the Hpet table is really killed. There stands now version 1 for the Hpeu table and the possibility to change legacy Irqs is gone. |
| #677 | diderius6 | But still no timer is shown in device list of XP. Irq 0 and Irq 8 are free. And I see an UEFI table entry in rw-everything. Has this been there before also(?) Dietmar |
| #678 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 in rw-everything i see HPET table before I empty HPET table and load empty with grub2 without DSDT - 7E BSOD Because of results with grub2, I think the cause of 7E BSOD is in RSDP or EBDA area |
| #679 | infuscomus | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD are you any good at understanding ACPI code? |
| #680 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I also start to think, that the error is not in the DSDT table. But which table acpi.sys also reads??? This line from windbg FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0x7E_ACPI!AcpiArbCrackPRT+113 means, that AcpiArbCrackPRT (I do not find any information about that pointer) looks just at a wrong adress (10h reserved low memory, because edi is empty) But at which adress this pointer has to look, the adress can be handcoded (edi+10h, change 10h against correct adress) Dietmar |
| #681 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you find what the correct address is? the address that windows 7 uses? |
| #682 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I just make a reread and I see, that indeed only DSDT can make exact this crash: "7. On QEMU, XP does indeed show the HPET alongside the TMR and RTC in its device tree, obviously without any IRQ resources under properties, since the only way it boots is if HPET._CRS doesn't include IRQNoFlags. 8. Windows 7, while it boots and runs fine when HPET._CRS contains IRQNoFlags, will show an unresolved IRQ conflict between the HPET and the RTC in the device tree. Commenting out IRQNoFlags from the RTC in QEMU does NOT solve that (still shows up as a conflict in the device tree). 9. I followed Igor's advice and ran a debug session, but unlike with ConcatenateResTemplate, XP didn't choke on AML byte code itself, but appears to die of a memory access violation: *** Fatal System Error: 0x0000007e (0x...) ... Probably caused by: ACPI.sys (ACPI!AcpiArbCrackPRT+113) 80527bdc cc int 3 Poking around with various !amli debugger commands does not show anything AML-related as abnormal, so I think the problem is that either XP specifically expects the HPET._CRS buffer to be of a certain hardcoded size (which doesn't include any extra room for IRQNoFlags), or attempts to somehow process the values given via IRQNoFlags (0 and 8) in ways that cause it to then kill itself. Hard to tell without knowing more about XP internals (e.g., without XP kernel and/or acpi.sys source code). At this point, conditionally inserting IRQNoFlags {0,8} only for OS X sounds less of a hack and more like the right thing to do. I would be comfortable using ConcatenateResTemplate since XP never gets a chance to attempt to interpret that bytecode, which gets exercised only by the _OSI("Darwin") branch. I tested this, and both XP and OSX seem happy with it." There is a problem with the timer. But when a single device (via DSDT) can make exact this crash, may be another device, that XP not likes, can make this crash also. So, my first idea after this is, to "delete via OSVR" in DSDT all devices with a given IRQNoFlags number Dietmar |
| #683 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #682 There is the windows research kernel you can use on github |
| #684 | diderius6 | This would be a nice idea, to set up a Qemu session, give to Qemu the DSDT table from the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board, chose RYZEN processor and install ACPI XP SP3. Oh, so much hope, that the same BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 happens in Qemu, than fun can start to find out which device in DSDT makes this BSDOD Dietmar |
| #685 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 why QEMU over real hardware? |
| #686 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Because it is much easier with Qemu to change quick everything:)) and to see, that the error is NOT on your hardware. Here comes my next try. Please load the DSDT table for the Asrock B350 board and see, if the BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 still happens. I deleted everything about timer and Irqnoflags() with given numbers there. May be, the APIC from the B350 chipset dies, when you give numbers for IRQ Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #687 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I loaded you IRQnoflags DSDT into grub2 - BSOD A5 02 ⇗ however, I get this same BSOD when loading unmodified smaller DSDT from BIOS 3.30 (in DsdtAsl) with larger DSDT from BIOS 3.30 (in 7FD41B4B-42AE-47BA-BA77-87D3BD829E86) I get BSOD A5 0D ⇗ |
| #688 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Before you get with full DSDT and grub2 BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005? And now with my IRQnoflags DSDT into grub2 - BSOD A5 02 and you changed nothing other? This would be a big step forward Dietmar EDIT: In this case my modified acpi.sys would solve this problem BSOD A5 02. |
| #689 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 with grub2 loading DSDT from BIOS 5.00 and 5.40 always 7E BSOD I have not tried DSDT from BIOSs 4.30 to 4.90 or the Bridge BIOS 3.40 BIOS 3.30 is either A5 02 or A5 0D |
| #690 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I just flash this Bios with IRQnoflags DSDT to Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board, same BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 as before Dietmar |
| #691 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 When you have the time, try AIO multiboot with grub2 method |
| #692 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The problem is, that I do not understand, what happens there. With direct flash Bios to real hardware I understand чуть чуть :)). Now all clocks and their Irqs are gone in Win7, but cpu-z shows again all clocks working, only HPET not(!) listened. Dietmar EDIT: In XP SP3, also no clocks at all in device list, no IRQ 0 or 8 is used. But the most crazy for me is, that the 3 timers, shown with cpu-z (tools timers) shows them as working correct?! ACPI QPC RTC 3.580 MHZ 1.193 MHZ 1.000KHZ Dietmar EDIT: This simple means, because DSDT table is not loaded for "Standard PC" that all the clocks are elsewhere listed too. EDIT2: XP (first, gold version) and XP SP1 show exact the same error: 0x7E 0xc0000005. |
| #693 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can I try your modified acpi.sys for acpi A5 02 and 0D errors? |
| #694 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Here it is Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #695 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Thanks, unfortunately, no change - BSOD A5 02 ⇗ Thanks anyway |
| #696 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD how do I interpret parameter2 to locate DSDT error? or am I going about it the wrong way? |
| #697 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I still think, the big problem is, that the Asrock B350 board does not give a full APIC Irq list to XP. This may be an error in this chipset. May be this is the real problem and not ACPI. I just look, but a Qemu, special for Ryzen processors, is not out there until now. With the wrong configured HPET timer (Irq 0 and Irq 8) you can get the same BSOD via windbg "acpi!acpiarbcrackprt+113" as I have. This means, that the DSDT table CAN be the reason. Now I make a new try with deleted device "PIC" in DSDT (it gets Irq 2 there) and flash this Bios. Not much hope, that this will change anything. But not much devices are left in DSDT, which makes sense to be killed there. After this, I do another way: I put the halapic.dll from Debug XP SP3 into XP and also ntkrnlmp.exe. Then I look, what windbg tells EDIT: windbg tells nothing with halapic.dll, the BSOD happens so early (I think in halapic, just blinking cursor), so that the debugger does not start, brrr.. Dietmar |
| #698 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I'm not sure, but this might help? ⇗ http://2012.zeronights.org/includes/docs/Oleksiuk.pdf page 26 |
| #699 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus interesting:)) I have news: With deleted PIC device in DSDT, XP does not want to start any longer in Acpi Multiprocessor mode, no(!) bluescreen, just reboot. But as "Standard PC", everything works like before. In my eyes this means: XP uses ALWAYS PIC mode and this is forbidden for Acpi Multiprocessor and because of this no valid pointer to PCI-Interface, it just not exists Dietmar PS: That are interesting but bad news. Because it means, as long as XP can only enable PIC mode on the asrock board, there will be no ACPI Multiprocessor for XP. The same happens to Vista 32 bit. Vista 64 and Win7 32bit generate their own Irqs (as you can see on negative Irq numbers). EDIT: This is wrong, what I wrote: I forget, that I have done \pcilock switch in boot.ini. And only with this switch, compi boots new in Acpi Multiprocessor mode. Without \pcilock in boot.ini, compi gives for Acpi Multiprocessor the same BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 as usual. |
| #700 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 XP apparently supports negative IRQs? ⇗ http://maxedtech.com/show-devices-by-irq-in-windows/ Devices that have positive (PCI) values are working in Line-based interrupts mode. Those that have negative (PCI) values are working in MSI (Message signaled interrupts) mode. |
| #701 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #699 ⇗ @diderius6 So you have multiprocessor and ACPI working on AB350? but not APIC? |
| #702 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I do not think, that something changed. Still no correct Irqs for the pci devices Dietmar
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| #703 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 maybe try this flag in FACP table - MSI Not Supported (V4) : 0 set it to 1 |
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Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #700 No, only line based irqs |
| #705 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I make a crazy try: I delete nearly everything in DSDT, compile and add this mini DSDT to Bios and flash. Result: No keyboard (even not in "Standard PC"), I cant go to Bios because no keyboard, no mouse, no COM1, means no debugging, Standard PC XP SP3 works. Acpi BSOD for Acpi Multiprocessor changes to 0x7B , which remembers me a lot at the behavior from Vista 32 bit on this Asrock B350 board. So, the BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 seems to depend also(?) on DSDT Dietmar EDIT: Vista 32 bit setup shows : No Acpi compatible PC^^. PS: Here is my mini DSDT:
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| #706 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 OK, So we start from scratch - then start adding things back into DSDT table until we run into either A5 or 7E BSOD? |
| #707 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes, this would be possible, but no mood for this at the moment. I noticed, that the CPU definition went out from DSDT to SSDT. But as far as I understand, acpi.sys reads ONLY DSDT Dietmar |
| #708 | diderius6 | I make a new try. I use the DSDT from the SABERTOOTH-990FX-R20-ASUS-2901. It is a AM3+ XP friendly board. In the DSDT the Hpet is handled correct and there are no Externals at all. This DSDT I flash to Bios from Asrock B350 board. Some things change, I think to better: Vista 32 bit setup tells now: BSOD 0xA5 0x1000 which means: 0x1000 : ACPI_BIOS_USING_OS_MEMORY ACPI had a fatal error when processing a memory operation region. The memory operation region tried to map memory that has been allocated for OS usage. The BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 happens with normal XP also, meaning acpi.sys is writing and reading in system memory. Here is XP SP3 debug, windbg with this DSDT:
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| #709 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #708 - dsdt is not very portable on modern plarforms because uses hardcoded mem ranges, bios fill memory with values, windows read acpi code and read these memory, this is communication os<->bios. For portability need similar platform/chipset. - dsdt (body.bin) from bios filesystem is template (on intel platform), final state produced by bios before os loading example of template in dsdt: Zitat
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| #710 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD The problem is, to find any DSDT table from a compi with Ryzen platform, which is XP friendly Dietmar PS: Do you think, it is possible to find out the hardcoded mem ranges of the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board and put them one by one into this DSDT table? And I have another question: Do you think, that there exist a DSDT table for this Asrock board, that starts XP with Acpi Multiprocessor mode? I mean, is it enough to edit DSDT table or is need to change other tables too? For example I noticed, that the whole cpu definition now went out from DSDT to an SSDT table. But as far as I know, acpi.sys looks ONLY at DSDT. |
| #711 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD I change in the DSDT table of the Sabertooth board Name (PEBS, 0xE0000000) -> Name (PEBS, 0xF8000000) Name (PEBL, 0x10000000) -> Name (PEBL, 0x04000000) The values on the right site are from Asrock B350 board. Most of the NAME (..,) are identic. Are there some other importand values, which need to fit via DSDT Asrock -> DSDT Sabertooth Dietmar EDIT: I changed this values in DSDT but exact the same BSOD as before. |
| #712 | diderius6 | From the Acpi 1.b (1999) specification: ACPI is by nature more portable across operating systems and processors. ACPIs command methods allow very flexible implementations of particular features. Taking this word by word, it should be even possible to use a DSDT table from an Intel board for any AMD board Dietmar PS: What I do not understand is the difference between DSDT and SSDT tables. acpi.sys reads only DSDT. But from yesterday I know, that not only acpi.sys is reading DSDT, strange enough. Who reads the other tables? |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #712 mssmbios reads ssdt, facp and other nvidia driver reads ssdt acpi.sys do some magic with ssdt too: Zitat |
| #714 | diderius6 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD "mssmbios reads ssdt" is interesting, because the last module (lm) what is loaded before crash is always mssmbios I can see it with windbg Dietmar PS: So, the real problem may be outside from DSDT! acpi.sys do some magic with ssdt too: mov dword ptr [eax], 54445353h From where you know this? And can it help? EDIT: Aha, I found with Ida Pro in acpi.sys from XP SP3 "mov dword ptr [eax], 54445353h" and in Winhex there is written that it is from SSDT, cool. And there is another place with SSDT in acpi.sys too. PAGE:00036973 cmp ecx, 54445353h And also FACP, RSDT, XSDT, DSDT, SSDT.. oha, acpi.sys looks everywhere. |
| #715 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Can you also load another FACP table with your grub2 method before XP boots instead of the FACP table from Bios? May this is importand, because Acpi can also crash because of information in other tables Dietmar PS: A short tutorial how to use this grub2 method would be nice. |
| #716 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I can load a FACP table before DSDT with grub2 |
| #717 | diderius6 | Today is a good day, because I succeed to repair my first Asrock B350 board with hardware killed Bios Chip Winbond 25Q128FWSQ. I desolder the Bios chip with a hot air desolder gun at 500 degree Celsius. Crazy part, look very good for your fingers! Then I clean the 8 solder pins on the board (for the new Bios socket) careful off all solder with a Copper desoldering wire. Clean clean clean again with a STANNOL X32-10I flux and cleaning pen. As you can see, then I solder a socket for this Bios chip into the board. Not with the crazy Hot Air gun, just with small normal soldering iron with normal 0.5mm solder wire. Then I test all 8 pins for contact, put my new and also new flashed Bios Chip from Winbond via Epromer "tl866ii plus" in socket. When I change the Ryzen 1700 cpu from the other Asrock board to this one, the chip fell down and bent pins, brrr. Ok, after 20 min repair of bent pins I start compi new and here you can see nice result Dietmar PS: The socket with the Bios Chip is the white quadrat right down in the corner. ⇗ ![]() |
| #718 | infuscomus | nice! |
| #719 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I would not recommend this procedure to everyone. Many electronic devices I soldered years ago. The white socket here has nearly zero sized legs but I found no better with fit into this board Dietmar PS: infuscomus, please write short Tutorial about grub2 and FACP load. Because even I can now easy put in and out the Bios chip, the FACP table itself I cannot write direct to Bios, because I dont have the algoritmus for to put the changed FACP table back to Bios. |
| #720 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I followed this guide to get AIO boot to prepare my USB drive ⇗ https://www.aioboot.com/en/how-to-use/ after i confirmed the drive was bootable I opened AIOcreator.exe on the USB drive - selected Integration tab, chose Windows XP, then pointed to my XP ISO For ACPI Copy the ACPI AML or DAT files to the root of the AIOboot USB drive boot AIOboot USB drive Press C to drop to grub2 command line type desired commands e.g. acpi /facp.dat /dsdt.dat Press ENTER Press ESC to return to grub2 menu Select Windows XP/2003 Setup Select Windows XP Setup Boot Disk XP Install as normal |
| #721 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Thanks a lot! Interesting, how XP decides, whether this is a Acpi friendly Bios or not. Maybe, XP looks only in FACP for this. Like on the Intel Asrock board I find out, that XP writes also on the Asrock B350 ryzen board in the memory, which is reserved for the COM1 port, even without Acpi Dietmar |
| #722 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I found on coreboot wiki Windows XP or Server 2003 setup might fail with an error message such as: "An unexpected error (805262864) occurred at line 1768 of d:\xpclient\base\boot\setup\arcdisp.c" The value 805262864 varies, and is the physical address, in decimal, of one of the ACPI tables. The error message is displayed when a 1024 dword page table array used by setupldr runs out of space. This table is used for mapping various physical addresses, such as those of ACPI tables (a separate table identity maps the lower 16MB used by setupldr code and data). Setupldr only looks at ACPI tables (FACP) to determine make and model of the system. The make and model of the system is needed when setupldr scans the good/bad bios lists contained in txtsetup.sif. The good/bad bios lists are used to bypass installation of the ACPI enabled kernel on certain systems known to have ACPI problems. The code loop that scans the lists creates a new mapping each time it reads an ACPI table, and never frees mappings. The code uses FACP OEM ID to determine the system model. The code sequentially reads tables listed in the RSDT array until the FACP is found. Each read consumes one page table entry. If more that 4 tables precede the FACP in the RSDT array, the 1024 entry page table array will run out of space before the good/bad bios list processing completes. BIOS can work around this Windows XP/Server 2003 limitation by placing the FACP early in the RSDT array. |
| #723 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I just found this via windbg on new/old Asrock board:))! MAPIC - dumpFACS: Invalid Signature 0x00000000 != APIC_SIGNATURE (43495041) May be this is the only reason, why we have no Acpi on XP on the Asrock B350 ryzen board Dietmar |
| #724 | diderius6 | Be careful!!! When you flash the Asrock B350 to the newest Bios Version 5.70, you cant go back with normal Eflash via Bios on the Asrock 350 board: There is written: Invalid file, brrr.. Dietmar |
| #725 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 does your epromer still work around this? |
| #726 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yessssaaa, flash back to Bios version 3.30 lasts only 2 min because now Bios on socket Dietmar |
| #727 | diderius6 | When you use Bios 3.30 on the Asrock B350 board, XP SP3 boot from nvme device works. On Bios 5.40 and 5.70 boot from nvme device for XP SP3 gives BSOD Dietmar |
| #728 | diderius6 | This MAPIC - dumpFACS: Invalid Signature 0x00000000 != APIC_SIGNATURE (43495041) may be interesting. "APIC" word in Hex is vice versa written 43 49 50 41. With Bios 5.40 the !amli .. command shows everywhere Irq 2, this is the Irq for the PIC model. But all adresses for every Acpi device where filled with numbers, crash happens because Acpi in PIC mode does not work on a Multiprocessor System (needs Apic model). So, in the DSDT table is the PIC model chosen on Bios 5.40. On Bios 3.30 (with Apic model in FACP) nothing(?) is chosen in DSDT, all ACPI devices are filled with 00000000 and all Irqs are 0 Dietmar |
| #729 | diderius6 | Does anybody know, how to find the MADT table in Bios? ⇗ https://wiki.osdev.org/MADT BIOS creates tables on boot Table of contents (RSDT/XSDT), pointed to by RSDP DSDT: AML bytecode and device tree MADT: APIC table for SMP and interrupt routing FADT: fixed features, superceded by DSDT in many cas Dietmar |
| #730 | diderius6 | I am very happy, when somebody can explain this lines to me. Does it mean, we can chose for ourselfes, if we use PIC or APIC method? And if yes, how has APIC to be set here in which variable Dietmar PCI IRQ Routing (PIC vs. APIC mode) If the _PIC control method is present, the _PRT method should return interrupt routing information based on the value _PIC was called with Method(_PIC,1) { Store(Arg0, PICS) } Method(_PRT) { if (PICS) { } else { } } _PIC(0) => PIC Mode _PIC(1) => APIC Mode |
| #731 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I'm sorry I'm not knowledgeable enough to be of much help for this Ask around on hackintosh forums, they do DSDT hacking, maybe they can help? |
| #732 | diderius6 | I start to understand. In the DSDT table are for every device 2 entries. One for APIC mode and one for PIC mode. In the DSDT of the Asrock B350 board Method (_PIC, 1, NotSerialized) // _PIC: Interrupt Model { If (Arg0) { \_SB.DSPI () \_SB.PCI0.NAPE () DBG8 = 0xAA } Else { DBG8 = 0xAC } PICM = Arg0 } When (from an unknown place set) Arg0=1, then APIC mode is enabled in DSDT, all devices use APIC. Is Arg0=0 then the devices in DSDT table all use PIC mode. This simple means, even without any ACPI, the DSDT and SSDT tables have to be read for to decide APIC or PIC mode. This information is in Arg0. Here if APIC mode, then set DBG8 = 0xAA and for PIC mode DBG8 = 0xAC. This variable DBG8 is not used in DSDT table, but seems to be needed at other place. For APIC and for PIC mode, this information is now given via PICM = Arg0 to PICM, means APIC for PICM=1 , PIC for PICM=0 Dietmar ⇗ https://os.inf.tu-dresden.de/papers_ps/tr-atare-2009.pdf ⇗ https://uefi.org/sites/default/files/res..._2_A_Sept29.pdf |
| #733 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I found old iasl compiler from 2005 and pdf infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #734 | diderius6 | Multiple APIC Description Table: The Multiple APIC Description Table (APIC or MADT) is used on systems supporting the APIC to describes the APIC implementation. Following the Multiple APIC Description Table is a list of APIC structures that declare the APIC features of the machine. This is from ACPI 1.b (XP). Now it is clear: The Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 does not support APIC and because of this there is no MADT table. But I think, ACPI for XP there is possible, but needs a lot of handwork Dietmar |
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Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #732 DBG8 is I/O Port 80 (port for POST codes from ancient times), you can skip any operations with it ZitatOperationRegion (DEB0, SystemIO, 0x80, One) Zitat
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| #736 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #723 APIC table presented in xsdt list ? in rsdt list too ? table is really empty ? |
| #737 | diderius6 | Bug Description I'm on a Ryzen 1800X and Biostar B350GT5 on bionic kubuntu. There are lots of AMD-Vi logged events and I get irq crashes or acpi hangups with a 'normal' boot. I got it to boot by disabling IOMMU in the BIOS and adding "iommu=soft" to the kernel booting options in grub. linux can then detect everything properly (all cores) and I've had zero crashes. The only issue is that it's using software IOMMU which could have a performance penalty because it has to copy all the data of some PCI devices to sub 4G regions. Alternatively it boots with the kernel option "acpi=off" but only detects a single core/thread. |
| #738 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD The problem is, that without acpi amli cant read correct the tables. With rw-everything, even without ACPI and without APIC, there is the MADT (APIC) table listened. And because Win7 32 works with full Multiprocessor ACPI, there must be an APIC list but under XP it is impossible until now to read the APIC table. I heard from GEODE and other embedded board manufactures, who take a deep look in implementic the chipset local APIC for the B350 and B320, that there may be errors between calling Level-triggered and Edge-triggered Irqs Dietmar |
| #739 | diderius6 | 1036 When IOMMU Interrupt Remapping Is Enabled the Remapped TM (Trigger Mode) Bit Is Incorrectly Ignored Description When IOMMU interrupt remapping is enabled the remapped TM (trigger mode) bit in the IOMMU interrupt remapping table entry is incorrectly ignored, and as a result all remapped interrupts will have TM=0 indicating edge-triggered mode. Potential Effect on System Remapped interrupts with TM=1 indicating level-triggered mode will result in IO devices not receiving EOI (end of interrupt). Suggested Workaround No workaround. Only use devices with edge-triggered interrupts. Fix Planned Yes |
| #740 | diderius6 | 1043 IOMMU May Fail to Deliver an Interrupt or Incorrectly Send an Interrupt to the Host OS Description IOMMU may fail to deliver an interrupt or incorrectly send an interrupt to the host OS under the following conditions: The vAPIC (Virtual Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller) backing page is programmed in IRTE (Interrupt Remapping Table Entry), and GA (Guest Virtual APIC) mode is enabled. Potential Effect on System Unpredictable system behavior. Suggested Workaround System software may contain the workaround for this erratum. Fix Planned No fix planned |
| #741 | diderius6 | Bug Description [Impact] Gigabyte AM4 boards users cannot boot Ubuntu successfully. Commit linux-gpio/fixes babdc22b0ccf4ef5a3075ce6e4afc26b7a279faf "pinctrl/amd: Use regular interrupt instead of chained" can fix the issue. [Test Case] All Gigabyte AM4 boards can reproduce the issue. With the patch, the issue is resolved, per comment #170. [Regression Potential] Regression Potential is low. It limits to rather new AMD platform which has pinctrl-amd. As the commit log says, use chained interrupt is not a good idea. Use regular interrupt is the correct way. I also test the patch on an AMD laptop, where its touchpad depends on pinctrl-amd. No regression found. Original bug report: I'm trying to run ubuntu on Ryzen 1700x with Gigabyte GA-AB350-gaming-3 motherboard, and it has a load of problems, starting with not being able to boot normally. During normal boot, on 16.10 as well as 17.04 beta: system doesn't boot normally, hangs with a lot of "unexpected irq trap at vector 07" messages displayed. Following advice from various places, I've tried:disable cpu freq governor and cpu handling in acpi settings 1. add "acpi=off" to boot params That helps, allowing me to boot into recovery mode, though it leaves me with system seeing only one core, is really slow and still only boots in recovery mode. 2. Compile own kernel using 4.11.rc1 and disabling cpu freq governor and cpu handling in acpi settings. Boot with "quiet loglevel=3" option. That gets me even further - system sees all cores now. Still only recovery mode though, but its enough to get info for this bug report. Some observed problems: 1. dmesg reports *a lot* of messages like this all the time: [ 163.362068] ->handle_irq(): ffffffff87a7e090, [ 163.362081] bad_chained_irq+0x0/0x40 [ 163.362089] ->handle_irq(): ffffffff87a7e090, [ 163.362090] amd_gpio_irq_handler+0x0/0x200 [ 163.362090] ->irq_data.chip(): ffffffff88587e20, [ 163.362090] ioapic_ir_chip+0x0/0x120 [ 163.362090] ->action(): ffffffff884601c0 [ 163.362091] IRQ_NOPROBE set [ 163.362099] ->handle_irq(): ffffffff87a7e090, [ 163.362099] amd_gpio_irq_handler+0x0/0x200 [ 163.362100] ->irq_data.chip(): ffffffff88587e20, [ 163.362100] ioapic_ir_chip+0x0/0x120 [ 163.362101] ->action(): ffffffff884601c0 I've tried to redirect dmesg to a file, stopped after a short while, it generated 400M of those. 2. Systemd cannot start journald. Perhaps because it cannot cope with amount of kernel logs? 3. Looking at pci, I've noticed something called AMDI0040 (/sys/bus/acpi/devices/AMDI0040, path=_SB_.EMMC), among AMDI0010, AMDI0020, AMDI0030. Those however are mentioned in kernel source, kernel and google are completely silent about AMDI0040. Phoronix tested ryzen using different motherboard, and it worked better (though not well), so I suspect it is an issue with motherboard. --- ApportVersion: 2.20.4-0ubuntu2 Architecture: amd64 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.04 InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-08-06 (581 days ago) InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 15.10 "Wily Werewolf" - Alpha amd64 (20150728.1) Package: linux (not installed) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_US:en TERM=linux PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Tags: zesty Uname: Linux 4.11.0-rc1-custom x86_64 UnreportableReason: The running kernel is not an Ubuntu kernel UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to zesty on 2017-03-03 (6 days ago) UserGroups: _MarkForUpload: True |
| #742 | diderius6 | Lukas Kahnert 2018-04-26 15:13:12 UTC Created attachment 275599 [details] Disassembled ACPI Table I tried to get the touchscreen work for HP Envy x360(Ryzen 2500u) on current kernel and found out that the Interrupt for the GPIO driver get wrong detected and configured. Maybe a typical bug in the ACPI table from BIOS. In ACPI Table the IRQ is defined as Interrupt (ResourceConsumer, Level, ActiveLow, Shared, ,, ) but in dmesg it prints [ 0.098531] ACPI: IRQ 7 override to edge, high I just made a dirty hack to force "level, low" for this IRQ (and a change related to other bug) and the touchscreen works as expected. But it needs a true fix in the hardware detection and configuration. |
| #743 | diderius6 | The device GPIO is also in the DSDT of the Asrock B350 board. And there it comes together with AMDs own saying: Only use devices with edge-triggered interrupts. Device (GPIO) |
| #744 | diderius6 | May be this will work and that's all :)){Dietmar |
| #745 | diderius6 | I replace at 9 places (just all) in DSDT from Asrock B350 Level, ActiveLow, => Edge, ActiveHigh, and flash Bios. But the BSOD is still the same 0x7E 0xc0000005 after *** Assertion failed: PciInterfacesInstantiated *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\busdrv\acpi\driver\nt\irqarb.c, line 3512 But I think, we are on the right way. I disabled IOMMU in Bios 3.30. The problems are in Irqs Dietmar |
| #746 | diderius6 | Win7 32 bit starts with the changed Irqs as normal. I make with rw-everything a read out of all ACPI tables from the Asrock board B350. And, at the end of the APIC table you can find the entry Interrupt Source Override Structure Dietmar PS: But I do not know, how to change this table in Bios to Edge, ActiveHigh diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #747 | diderius6 | I succeed to hack the APIC table, so as wished with only Edge, ActiveHigh entries, here for Irq 9. Now, I look for somebody, who can load this APIC (MADT) table up during boot of XP Dietmar EDIT: New file, checksum repaired. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #748 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Make a try with this FACP Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #749 | diderius6 | Can the MADT table be loaded with the Microsoft asl.exe tool (vers. 4 from 2009)? asl.exe /loadtable apic.aml Dietmar PS: You need to set the version of the table higher than before, if you want your new table loaded. |
| #750 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I tried your APIC and FACP tables with grub2 instant restart, no BSOD |
| #751 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Please try this new DSDT also. I deleted all timers there and set all Irq to Edge ActiveHigh Dietmar PS: And make mix, 1 table, 2 tables, all 3 tables. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #752 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 some tests APIC only - instant restart FACP only - 7E BSOD DSDT only - arcdisp.c error - FACP must come before DSDT FACP + DSDT - BSOD A5 0x02 APIC + any table - instant restart edit: Oh, you have 8 core processor right? I have 4 core - maybe your APIC is enabling processor cores i don't have edit2: maybe not edited my own APIC, same result -instant restart |
| #753 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Thanks a lot for testing! May be, that the APIC table cant be loaded via this way Dietmar PS: Yes, the Ryzen 1700, which I have, has 8 cores, 16 threads. Today I will test the Microsoft way for upload ACPI tables via asl /loadtable dsdt.aml For this, I change the versionsnumber of the table +1. Also I will try 2 other AM4 processors on the Asrock B350 board AM4 Athlon X4 950 (this one has no integrated graphik) AM4 A8 A8-9600 |
| #754 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 This may eventually work- grub2 is loading APIC table at least I made this APIC table - It freezes on "Setup is Starting Windows" infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #755 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I see, that you use very old compiler. Who knows.. I changed for you the IRQ mode there. Compile it with the old compiler and try Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #756 | diderius6 | I loaded up all 3 new tables with the Microsoft tool asl.exe. In each of the 3 tables tool asl.exe answeres, that table has correct been overridden. For me is the problem, that I cant prove this, because rw-everything told always the same. But may be rw-everything just cant read new tables. Something changed to better: windbg tells 0: kd> !acpiirqarb Dietmar |
| #757 | diderius6 | Nice news: BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 is complete gone. I think, the strange device ACPI\PNP0A08-0 now gives the new BSOD 0xA5 0x02 Dietmar EDIT: May be, ACPI\PNP0A08-0 has something to do with PciExpress. |
| #758 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I edited APIC a bit more, no more freeze or restart, but I'm back to BSOD A5 02 where I started. infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #759 | diderius6 | I deleted Name (_HID, EisaId ("PNP0A08") /* PCI Express Bus */) // _HID: Hardware ID in DSDT, set -r4 for the reversnr of this DSDT table and overload DSDT table new with asl.exe. Even the asl.exe told, that the DSDT table has been succesfull overridden, no prove for this. Now the line *** Assertion failed: PciInterfacesInstantiated *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\busdrv\acpi\driver\nt\irqarb.c, line 3512 appears again in windbg Dietmar |
| #760 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Ok, I read whole "with new tables "Bios out. The DSDT does not change at all, so question remains, for what the Microsoft asl.exe is good.. Dietmar EDIT: Oho, I make a mistake. The Bios tables are all as before. BUT all the new ACPI tables are in some magic way stored in registry(!) of XP. Until now, I do not find them there, but for sure they are, cool. |
| #761 | diderius6 | Here is the prove: Registry without new tables gives via windbg ACPI IRQ Arbiter: fffffffff75ae2a0 Extension: ffffffff8b0d3520 And with new tables loaded via asl.exe in some magic way to registry (NOT(!) Bios) 0: kd> !acpiirqarb Dietmar |
| #762 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 which one gives A5 0x02 BSOD? |
| #763 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus windbg told A5 0x02 BSOD because of ACPI\PNP0A08-0 Only ACPI\PNP0A08 is listed in DSDT from the Asrock board, it is in comment there written as PCIe device. I take a look in the DSDT from the Am3+ Sabertooth board, there this line with PNP0A08 does not exist. And the AM3+ Sabertooth board DSDT is even on AM4 much more XP friendly than the DSDT from Asrock B350 Dietmar |
| #764 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 XP Friendly Device (PCI0) { Name (_HID, EisaId ("PNP0A03") /* PCI Bus */) // _HID: Hardware ID Name (_ADR, 0x00180000) // _ADR: Address Method (^BN00, 0, NotSerialized) { Return (Zero) } Method (_BBN, 0, NotSerialized) // _BBN: BIOS Bus Number { Return (BN00 ()) } |
| #765 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I can change with asl.exe from Microsoft ACPI tables as much as I want. I changed nearly everything, but always the message *** Assertion failed: PciInterfacesInstantiated *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\busdrv\acpi\driver\nt\irqarb.c, line 3512 appears. The acpi.sys driver is loaded, is started all seems ok but isnt Dietmar PS: I noticed, that the adress for the DSDT table in XP is a little bit different from Win7. Apic table and FACP are identic in XP and Win7. In Win7 ACPI multiprocessor starts, in XP not. Now I am sure, that the error is NOT in APIC or in FACP table. |
| #766 | diderius6 | May be the problem is, that there is no XP driver for the IOMMU device. Can the option "iommu=soft" also for XP be given in grub before boot? Dietmar |
| #767 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #765 proper init PciInterfacesInstantiated variable is in AcpiArbInitializePciRouting() AcpiArbInitializePciRouting() do IRP request to self (i mean acpi.sys) some handler inside acpi.sys do jobs with this request and return "not zero" not zero mean variable still be zero and we skip calling magic "call dword ptr [esi+8]" |
| #768 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD I think I understand idea for hack: AcpiArbInitializePciRouting() gives a value 0 back, when all is ok. And after some work in acpi.sys this work gives a value (starting from 0) not 0. If this work gives 0, we got BSOD. But I do not find function AcpiArbInitializePciRouting() and its result. I can only hack the work in acpi.sys, that the message *** Assertion failed: PciInterfacesInstantiated is killed, but then I get again BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005, because edi is empty. So, the pointer AcpiArbCrackPRT (I also dont find this word in acpi.sys) is still called FAULTING_IP: ACPI!AcpiArbCrackPRT+113 f7578561 ff5710 call dword ptr [edi+10h] I dont know, how to set the variable given from AcpiArbInitializePciRouting() always = 0 Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #769 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 could the problem be in pci.sys? or is pci.sys never called? |
| #770 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Where the real problem is lying in, I dont know, may be errors in Irq settings from chipset B350. But may be, this can be hacked in acpi.sys. At the moment I think about, how to change in acpi.sys the conditional jump jnz loc_21568 => jmp loc_21568 This is not so easy as before, because this change means in HEX 0F 85 83 00 00 00 => ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? Dietmar PS: May be ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? = EB 84 90 90 90 90 |
| #771 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 where is jnz loc_21568? is it in AcpiArbInitializePciRouting? |
| #772 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Look for Hex values in Debug Acpi.sys 02 0B C3 0F 85 83 00 00 00 80 3D This is the right place I think, which we can hack. The conditional jump has to become a forced jump Dietmar |
| #773 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 in here? ⇗ |
| #774 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus This looks complete other than with Ida Pro, but it is the place, which I mean Dietmar |
| #775 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I change 02 0B C3 0F 85 83 00 00 00 80 3D => 02 0B C3 E9 84 00 00 00 90 80 3D now I test Dietmar |
| #776 | diderius6 | First BSOD is gone, but now I get 0x7B, brrr Dietmar
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| #777 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 does uniata driver or amd sata 1.2.1.321 driver fix 7B BSOD? |
| #778 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus, ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ,I got it to work full XP SP3 ACPI Multiprocessor with Ryzen 1700 cpu 8 cpu cores, 16 Threads on the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #779 | infuscomus | Awesome! can you help me to do the same? |
| #780 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes, of course. Few days ago, I take a look at the source code from Debug acpi.sys for XP SP3. My problem there was, that I found 2 places for the messages, that windbg always gives with *** Assertion failed: PciInterfacesInstantiated *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\busdrv\acpi\driver\nt\irqarb.c, line 3512 But today in the morning I get message from ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD, that the value 0 is stored only in 1 variable. Rest is easy, tell XP that this is always 0 Dietmar PS: I do not change anything in Bios. I do not load any extra Acpi table. I only use my hacked acpi.sys (may be this can be done with the nondebug version of acpi.sys also) and after your question about BSOD 0x7B I came to the idea to use my nvme device for boot, thats all. ⇗ ![]() ⇗
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| #781 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I receive different 7E BSOD ⇗ are you sure you are running unmodified BIOS? I'm on unmodified 5.40 bios (has CreateQwordField) |
| #782 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus This message I know. It depends on Bios settings. Now I flash Bios 3.30 new, for to make 100% sure, that in Bios is nothing changed Dietmar |
| #783 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I flashed Bios 3.30 new Acpi Multiprocessor works Dietmar PS: Now I try 5.40 with bridge Bios 3.40. 5.70 I do not use, because NO way back via Bios updater!!! |
| #784 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Bios 3.40 works also. Now I try 5.40 Dietmar |
| #785 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 5.40 has CreateQwordField, so you might need to make a patch for ACPI 5048 |
| #786 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The problem is, that nvme boot not works on Bios 5.40. I try from normal harddisk Dietmar EDIT: From harddisk I get BSOD 0xA5 0x11, this means Acpi cant be loaded, so I need to look for to use my other acpi.sys drivers Dietmar |
| #787 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Can you patch non-debug XP or 2003 acpi.sys driver or would ACPI 5048 be the best driver? |
| #788 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus For me, best work my own modified acpi.sys from XP SP3. But until now, I do not succeed to find the new hackplace in this file, because no names as in debugversion and identical Hexvalues are not there Dietmar |
| #789 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I get now Acpi Multiprocessor to work via normal harddisk at asm106x port. Bios I flash back for this to vers. 3.30 Dietmar PS: And how nice, irqs run up to 55. |
| #790 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #788 ⇗ @diderius6 It's in AcpiArbCrackPRT correct? Try Relyze disassembler, it shows names ⇗ https://www.relyze.com/download.html |
| #791 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I think in ACPI 5048, using relyze, AcpiArbCrackPRT is func_0xDFEE |
| #792 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus This version of Relyze does not work under XP Dietmar |
| #793 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 do you have any PCs with newer windows to install Relyze disassembler onto? |
| #794 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #790 Names stored in PDB, without .pdb any disasm show only name of entry point |
| #795 | infuscomus | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD well, for whatever reason, Relyze always seems to give me function names (except in acpi.sys 5048) |
| #796 | diderius6 | I have all the Symbols for acpi.sys but Ida pro shows me no text, only for the debug version Dietmar EDIT: I put the acpi.pdb and the acpi.sys file in one folder and force Ida Pro to use it, now I have text, as much as never before:))! EDIT2: On the normal acpi.sys this hack seems not to work. Dietmar |
| #797 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 There are lots of instances of _PciInterfacesInstantiated - do we need to jmp them all? |
| #798 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Good question. Very evil structurated is normal acpi.sys. The debug version of acpi.sys is clear. And also funny: Because I have had very small text, not the variable has been written in code from Ida Pro but only naked Hex with some comments for Debug version. Because I was used to read this, it was much easier for me than now with the soso much text via acpi.pdb for the normal acpi.sys Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #799 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I think in non-debug XP acpi.sys 0000BD20 C2 75 4A 8D 55 8B 52 8D 55 8C 52 C2 75 4A 8D 55 8B 52 8D 55 8C 52 => C2 EB 4A 8D 55 8B 52 8D 55 8C 52 or in 5048 0000D440 D2 0B C2 75 4A 8D 55 8B 52 8D D2 0B C2 75 4A 8D 55 8B 52 8D => D2 0B C2 EB 4A 8D 55 8B 52 8D what do you think? |
| #800 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I am not sure about. I make 2 different tries, both fail. Last try was with change on the normal (german) acpi.sys 02 00 75 06 53 E8 => 02 00 75 00 53 E8 and at the same time also 0B C1 74 1D 38 0D => 0B C1 74 00 38 0D Until the structure of this acpi.sys is not clear, a lot of try and error we will have Dietmar |
| #801 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you upload AML of your working XP DSDT too for me to try? |
| #802 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 So I just got a 7B BSOD with this acpi.sys 5048 on BIOS 5.40 - without DSDT patch can you confirm the same result on your AB350 gaming K4 on 5.40? infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #803 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Here they are the Acpi tables, just fresh from running XP via acpidump, acpixtract Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #804 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Waaaooohh, on Bios 3.30 it boots from asm106x harddisk, Dietmar PS: Now I try Bios 5.40. ⇗ ![]() Bios 3.40 works. |
| #805 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 BIOS 3.40 or 5.40? any luck getting AMD SATA ports to work? |
| #806 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus ⇗ ![]() Nice, look at the Bios Version. So, this is until now the best acpi.sys for XP SP3 Dietmar |
| #807 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 excellent! for sata ASMedia asm106x - which driver version is best? p.s now we should also fix amd sata too |
| #808 | diderius6 | Very easy, the one I send to you!
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| #809 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 upload driver here please edit: Thanks very much |
| #810 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus In Bios 5.40 the network card works without problems. But no nvme boot possible, no nvme as codevice. Uni-Ata not works. Dont install this, always installs itself wrong new on reboot, brrr.. I tested all drivers from Uni-Ata. So we have to wait for next version. In Bios 3.30 problem with network card, can be fixed in DSDT, just look, what they changed for the network card in 5.40 Bios. Uni-Ata not tested. In Bios 5.40 is a conflict between Hpet and the other clocks, can be solved, just look at the DSDT from the Sabertooth board. In Bios 3.30 this conflict with Hpet cant be seen, but I think it is there also. When Standard PC changes to ACPI Multiprocessor, all devices have to be recogniced new, because we change from PIC to APIC model. When problems appear, just go via safe mode F8 or use windbg for to see, what is going on Dietmar |
| #811 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you run a debug session with uniata debug version to try and find the problem? ⇗ http://alter.org.ua/soft/win/uni_ata/BusMaster_v47a_Dbg.rar |
| #812 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus On Bios 5.40 this uniata version was a fail. But now I try on Bios 3.30 Dietmar |
| #813 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus First I get now message *** Assertion failed: KeGetCurrentIrql() == PASSIVE_LEVEL *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\ntos\mm\sysload.c, line 7480 This I have never seen before. It does not crash the compi. I think it has to with the Irqs, how we call them Dietmar |
| #814 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 so the uniata driver can not allocate an IRQ? p.s I test with last official amd_sata 1.2.1.321 for XP/2k3 - 7B BSOD |
| #815 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I tested everything, in Bios 5.40 the Uni-Ata driver does not work Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #816 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you try force enabling registry hack? ⇗ http://alter.org.ua/soft/win/uni_ata/registry.php |
| #817 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus As you can see, the driver uniata is loaded but does not start Dietmar PS: This is Bios 3.30 diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #818 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I think force GeomType = 0x00000002 in registry in debug log GeomType = 0xffffffff is hidden |
| #819 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Uni-ata driver crashes whole XP installation, brrr.. ok, I am going to install XP with acpi.sys 5048 new Dietmar |
| #820 | diderius6 | I install XP fresh on the Asrock B350 board. All is ok, survives reboot. Only when loaded hacked acpi.sys XP cries, file wrong.. hit "esc" and continue Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #821 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I ran into the same error of XP saying acpi.sys is wrong in a VM I fixed checksum, OK now remember to replace acpi.sys in driver.cab file as well infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #822 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes, this I just notice: Crazy XP changed acpi.sys back to original version on last boot, I hope that this is last time that I see BSOD 0x7E 0xc0000005 ^^ Dietmar EDIT: Voila, there is XP SP3 with "ACPI Multiprocessor" fresh after direct installation on the Asrock B350 board. ⇗ ![]() |
| #823 | diderius6 | Problem with network card and HPET timer is still there. Now I make a try to upload the DSDT from 5.40 Bios with asl.exe direct to registry and we will see Dietmar |
| #824 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 you got the 7E BSOD because there is a backup copy of acpi.sys stored in driver.cab that setup ended up copying over |
| #825 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes. The DSDT (now vers. 3 from Bios 5.40) table upload with asl.exe works: On next boot I got BSOD 0xA5 0x11, even I use acpi.sys 5048 modmod version Dietmar PS: So, I installed also again "Standard PC", noticed, that network card there works fantastic, looks in dsdt table from 5.40 Bios. Then I delete the DSDT table via boot to "Standard PC" asl /loadtable -d dsdt.aml and on next boot all is as before, meaning no BSOD and problem with network card^^. |
| #826 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 what error code does network card show? |
| #827 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus No error code at all. In device manager all is ok, but on task bar yellow exclamationmark. I got very slow internetconnection, but get. When I change this card against T-Link Pcie card, this one works. So, it depends on DSDT of the Asrockboard or maybe Bios settings. Until now, I do not find the device name of the Realtek RTL8111GR in the Asrock B350 board any one an idea, how this device can be named in DSDT? I compare DSDT from Bios 3.30 with DSDT from Bios 5.40 but the device for lan I do not find. I look for nic, lan, eth,.. nothing Dietmar EDIT: In Bios I found one place with name Broadcom in it. I extract both from Bios 5.40 and from Bios 3.30. A compare with Winhex shows 100% identic. Other users with the Asrock B350 board write about the same problem. With Bios 5.40 this is gone, I think via DSDT. EDIT2: I found the reason for slow Internet: The networkcard has the same Irq 32 as the USB 3.1 hostcontroller in Bios 3.30. EDIT3: The TP-Link network card also shares Irq 32 and works good. So, Irq sharing is not the reason for not work correkt of the RT card. |
| #828 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 now that we have working acpi.sys for XP on AMD Ryzen, is there a possibility of also achieving a working storahci.sys? |
| #829 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus There exists an AMD driver for the AMD ahci drive. This needs to be hacked for to work under XP also Dietmar |
| #830 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 which driver are you referring to? |
| #831 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus On the Fernando site, as far as I remember, there was only one unsolved dependency to XP Dietmar |
| #832 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 there are several versions of AMD driver, which version? |
| #833 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 storahci.sys has no missing dependencies, but it gives a different BSOD |
| #834 | diderius6 | I think, it is not for harddisk Dietmar |
| #835 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I attach debug versions of storahci and storport - can you load driver and debug? infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #836 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Both files have unsolved dependencies to ntoskrnl.exe Dietmar |
| #837 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 only 1 missing storahci.sys - depends on storport.sys only storport.sys - missing KeTestSpinLock found in Server 2003 checked ntoskrnl.exe |
| #838 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 normal non-debug storahci.sys gives 7E BSOD |
| #839 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 are you able to debug why nvme driver fails on BIOS 5.40? maybe it's related to why ahci fails? |
| #840 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I read, that edge Interrups are better than level Interrupts. AMD wrote the same about Ryzen. But then I found this: " Consider the scenario where an interrupt IS shared by two devices with the following scenario: Device 1 requests service. The processor starts serving device 1. Device 2 requests service. Device 1 no longer requests service. The processor finishes serving device 1. The processor starts serving device 2. Here device 1 will assert an interrupt request in step 1. It de-asserts that request in step 5, but the request remains asserted due to step 3. Now in step 6, if level triggered requests are used, the processor will service the other device since the request level is still asserted. With edge triggered requests, nothing will happen because there will be no new "edge" to be detected. The request remained asserted throughout the scenario. This is a failure of the interrupt system. This is why only level triggered interrupts, in general. may be shared. " Dietmar |
| #841 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 how do we fix this? |
| #842 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The handle of Irqs is a problem of the B350 chipset. I think other AM4 boards too, because no normal XP there. Only because of that we needed the new hack in acpi.sys. Now I make a check by check, at which places windbg tells, that there is a problem with Irq. Hm, how to make windbg search especially for this kind of errors, dont know, I try. At the moment we have no DEBUG acpi.sys, which overcomes the BSODs 0xA5 together with 0x11, 0x02.. like acpi.sys 5048 modmod, last from you Dietmar |
| #843 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus First message from windbg about Irqs *** Assertion failed: KeGetCurrentIrql() == PASSIVE_LEVEL *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\ntos\mm\sysload.c, line 7480 Dietmar EDIT: "The documentation clearly says: This routine can only be called at IRQL = PASSIVE_LEVEL. Interrupts are disabled. This is the *equivalent* of running at IRQL HIGH_LEVEL, without that nasty TPR programming." sysload.c is in halmacpi.dll but the message may be in ntkrnlmp.exe or in acpi.sys (all debug versions) also. ⇗ https://sysinternals.d4rk4.ru/Informatio...SourceTree.html 'KeGetCurrentIrql() == PASSIVE_LEVEL',0 is in acpi.sys (debug version) But I think, this message comes not from acpi.sys because in acpi.sys is written loc_34D12: ; CODE XREF: .text:00034CF7 j EDIT2: This message comes from ntkrnlmp.exe, found it with Ida Pro
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| #844 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 for debugging we could hack debug acpi.sys from server 2003 with the same hacks we used for 5048, but it will only work for server 2003 |
| #845 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I think, Longhorn-Vista 5048 is server 2003. May be, the acpi.sys 5048 modmod is enough for debugging Dietmar |
| #846 | diderius6 | This are next error messages from windbg *** Assertion failed: ((Timer)->Header.Type == TimerNotificationObject) || ((Timer)->Header.Type == TimerSynchronizationObject) *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\ntos\ke\timerobj.c, line 195 *** Assertion failed: (MemoryDescriptorList->MdlFlags & ( MDL_MAPPED_TO_SYSTEM_VA | MDL_SOURCE_IS_NONPAGED_POOL | MDL_PARTIAL_HAS_BEEN_MAPPED)) == 0 *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\ntos\mm\iosup.c, line 3542 *** Assertion failed: (MemoryDescriptorList->MdlFlags & ( MDL_PAGES_LOCKED | MDL_PARTIAL)) != 0 *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\ntos\mm\iosup.c, line 3546 |
| #847 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 so there is a problem in ntoskrnl? |
| #848 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I do not know. For sure there is a problem with setting Irqs on AM4 boards. The most crazy is, that with !MAPIC windbg told you, that it is empty, even now with running XP Acpi Multiprocessor Dietmar PS: I found out, that Irq with "edge" setting has always exclusive Irq (means each device has its own Irq). Irq with "level" setting can have share or exclusive Irq. The most crazy things happen, when 2 devices share one Irq and one of them is "edge" and the other "level", because this one with "edge" thinks, there cant be another device with same Irq. And I do not understand the message from ntkrnlmp.exe very early in boot process, that *** Assertion failed: KeGetCurrentIrql() == PASSIVE_LEVEL *** Source File: d:\xpsp\base\ntos\mm\sysload.c, line 7480 This looks like, if the whole system after this runs without any Irqs. EDIT: I know that certain operations can only be performed at IRQL PASSIVE_LEVEL. Microsoft has this sample code of how to write to a file from a kernel driver: if (KeGetCurrentIrql() != PASSIVE_LEVEL) return STATUS_INVALID_DEVICE_STATE; |
| #849 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can we somehow force hardware to use "edge" IRQs? |
| #850 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus In the DSDT table should (?) the hardwired devices from the board are listened. For the hardwired networkcard RTL8111GR from the Asrock B350 board I do not find an device entry there! And when you use another networkcard like the TP-Link, the Irq setting is described in their software I think. So, I do not know, if this setting for Irq (level, edge) can be changed without problems for any hardware Dietmar |
| #851 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 maybe BIOS 5.40 is using a newer network OpROM? |
| #852 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 also, any luck with patching AMD AHCI driver 1.2.1.402? we need to patch PoUnregisterPowerSettingCallback PoRegisterPowerSettingCallback |
| #853 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The broadcom is only at 1 place in Bios. They are identic for 3.30 and 5.40 Bios. Dietmar PS: Now I have to work. Yes, to try patch for the AMD AHCI driver 1.2.1.402 would be possible way, but I dont know how hard it is. May be it is enough just to delete this functions. |
| #854 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I'm not sure how to properly delete a function p.s I thought the network chip was a realtek? |
| #855 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I made attempt to load AMD AHCI driver first I attempted to load amd_sata - from 1.2.1.402 with amd_xata - from 1.2.1.321 - this resulted in 7F BSOD - Kernel Trap next I try to patch out PoRegisterPowerSettingCallback PoUnregisterPowerSettingCallback from amd_xata.sys uploaded if you want to test for yourself infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #856 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus It can be done with blackwingcat's PEMaker, if those 2 functions do nothing importand else Dietmar |
| #857 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I attempted to load my modded 1.2.1.402 driver 7B BSOD :( |
| #858 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Have you just deleted the 2 functions with blackwingcat's PEMaker Dietmar |
| #859 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I changed the dword ptr that calls the function and I redirect the imports PoRegisterPowerSettingCallback PoUnregisterPowerSettingCallback to DbgPrint |
| #860 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I recall you mentioning mixing scsiport and storport on the same system is bad? |
| #861 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Have you done a dependency check with Dependency Walker? No red is allowed there. Yes, but now I know about scsiport and storport, that they can work at the same time Dietmar |
| #862 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 yes, I checked with dependency walker - all green check my attachment earlier for yourself if you do not believe me |
| #863 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 known working driver storahci - gives 7F BSOD - Kernel Trap - in XP can this be debugged? |
| #864 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus This storport 5.2.3790.3959 driver will not work together with nvme, because therefor you need storport vers. 5.2.3790.4173. But maybe storport vers. 5.2.3790.4173 works with the storahci.sys driver. In any case you need an storahci.inf for this. Both need KeTestSpinLock function from ntoskrnl.exe, it is in WinServer2003 but not in XP kernel. So, you have to cancel this KeTestSpinLock function or maximum it will work with WinServer2003 Dietmar |
| #865 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 If you have a WinServer2003 debug setup available, can you debug storahci? |
| #866 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Today and tomorrow I have a lot of work for school because of examen. Make a try, install windbg and test via WinServer debug storahci. But for this you need registry entries or a working *.inf file Dietmar |
| #867 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 good luck with your exams! I think maybe this is the right .inf file? it contains reference to storahci (i could not find a storahci.inf) infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #868 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I think yes, but you have to add your Ven_&Dev_ id for your ahci controller to this *.inf file Dietmar |
| #869 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus In very short time we will have Storahci x86 and x64 for all AHCI controllers under XP Dietmar |
| #870 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #869 is this storahci from which os ? |
| #871 | diderius6 | Win8 |
| #872 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I tried to patch pciidex.sys of windows 7 to work with XP, so that I would be able to use msahci.sys of windows 7 with XP (msahci of win7 detects all drives properly) attempted patch of pciidex.sys result is BSOD 7F - 0D 0x0000000D -- An exception not covered by some other exception; a protection fault that pertains to access violations for applications same BSOD as storahci.sys maybe there is something in driver that prevents modification that we need to find? |
| #873 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus, ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Here is storahci driver 32 and 64 bit. Please test on your compi under XP / win2003 Dietmar PS: I tested it on the Asrock Ryzen B350 board with ahci device VEN_1022 DEV_43B7, works, just nice! Before installing the storahci driver, you need to copy by hand this storport.sys from nvme device to folder windows\system32\drivers ⇗
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| #874 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I have a slightly newer version of 2003 storport 5.2.3790.4485 can I use this version? or I must use 5.2.3790.4173? infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #875 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I've got only a SATA WD Green 120gb m.2 drive in m.2 slot and a separate JMicron card with non-ahci IDE BIOS for installation media connected to the motherboard and nothing else (except some cables going to empty hot swap bays - should i remove these?) I integrated storport.sys and storahci.sys and relevant HWIDs manually into txtsetup.sif and added storahci.reg entries into setupreg.hiv boot into XP setup - 7B BSOD!! argh!!! edit: if i send you a copy of my installation media ISO can you check if i have integrated correctly? |
| #876 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus About storport: Kai Schtrom makes a check with Ida Pro, which functions are needed. This was new to me, because I always think, that Dependency Walker is enough. But now I understand: Dependency Walker with only "green" is necessary but not sufficient. The only version of storport that I know with all needed functions is the storport.sys 5.2.3790.4173 which I sent here. You can compare it with storport from Vista (has some more functions but also not all) and from Win7 (has all). Have you tested the storahci, which I sent on your board Dietmar PS: The empty slots do nothing. May be, the signal is worse a little bit, but unimportand. You can use my generic *.inf from Reactos with [STORAHCI.NTx86] %SATA_AHCI.DeviceDesc%=storahci_Inst, PCI\CC_010601; Standard SATA AHCI Controller Next ist USB. Why you try to make in first step installations media? I think, if you do so, via txtsetup.oem or nlite it is easier. Much more easy is to test new version of driver on working XP. I always go this way, because so you have all possibilities to see, what works and what not. Install windbg for this. |
| #877 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus How do you correct checksum in acpi.sys 5048 for to make it XP installations friendly Dietmar PS: Can you install with this checksum correct checksum acpi.sys now normal via CD or *.iso file XP on Ryzen without crying from XP, that acpi.sys is wrong? |
| #878 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I use CFF explorer to fix the checksum ⇗ https://ntcore.com/?page_id=388 It fixes acpi.sys is wrong error (at least in a VM) remember to replace acpi.sys in driver.cab too I have not yet managed to do a successful install of XP on Ryzen - either A5 BSOD (solved) or 7B BSOD (not solved) |
| #879 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus 1.) Extract full content of XP CD to a folder. 2.) Change there in folder i386 acpi.sy_ against modded acpi.sy_ (compressed files with makecab.exe). 3.) Integrate with nlite the driver for asm106x, which I send. If you have an XP SP3 installation. If other versions of XP, also integrate update pack to XP SP3. Make winlite.iso. Burn winlite.iso to CD and install on Ryzen board with a connected harddisk at asmedia 106x slot (first black in row of 4) Dietmar |
| #880 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 OK, Do you mind if I send you my modified installation ISO for you to check? p.s if possible, I would like to install xp onto the m.2 sata drive |
| #881 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Test install on m.2 sata drive, I just make new txtsetup.oem for this Dietmar PS: You have to copy this version of storport.sys first into i386 installations folder also, and again after first reboot, because crazy installation deleted it, because XP does not have an own storport.sys. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #882 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Thanks, I will test |
| #883 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I just test install XP SP3 with new txtsetup.oem on normal AMD sata slot (not asm106x), works nice Dietmar PS: But I still get message, that acpi.sys is wrong. It is not a big problem because of hit "Esc" on keyboard, but how to make this acpi.sys that XP likes:)) it? After 1. reboot I get message 0x7B, it is normal, because XP deleted storport.sys in windows\system32\drivers so you have to copy storport.sys there by hand again. |
| #884 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I sent you an email with my XP installation media. can you test it? see if it works for you? let me know of any problems you find |
| #885 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I am just downloading, slow, needs 30 min:)). Then I compare it with Beyond Compare 2 and try to install. I am 100% sure, that we will have an XP SP3 installation, which works on any compi and can be installed everywhere there, I think even via COM1 port^^ Dietmar |
| #886 | diderius6 | About the rtl8111gr network chip on the Asrock B350 motherboard. I just see, that the chip on the TP-Link adapter is identic to this one on the Asrock board. Now I am sure, that it is a design error on the Asrock board. With the same driver, the rtl8111gr works without problem on another PCIe slot with the same IRQ 32 But it does not work as inbuild chip on Bios 3.30 Dietmar |
| #887 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Soso much drivers on this XP.iso. I found the error: You make a mistake in .SIF file for STORAHCI. Why just dont use Nlite with txtsetup.oem which I sent? Dietmar PS: If I where you: Flash back to Bios 3.30. Use a fresh XP install CD without this big amount of drivers. Integrate acpi.sys and storport.sys by hand into setupfolder i386. Dont change any entry in *.sif. Use nlite for to integrate storahci, which I send here with txtsetup.oem. EDIT: I think, you forget in TXTSETUP.SIF [SCSI] STORAHCI = "STORAHCI Installation Disk" |
| #888 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Can you test your storahci driver with BIOS 5.40? BIOS 3.30 does not support my CPU [SCSI] STORAHCI = "STORAHCI Installation Disk" I thought this part was just for human readability - [SCSI.Load] is where it is loaded I will start over with untouched source and load storahci with your txtsetup.oem using nlite |
| #889 | diderius6 | I just edit your TXTSETUP.SIF adding only in [SCSI] STORAHCI = "STORAHCI Installation Disk" and voila, I can install XP Dietmar |
| #890 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus But on reboot, I got BSOD 0x7B. It depends not on storport, storport is there. So, another mistake happens in TXTSETUP.SIF. Better use Nlite Dietmar |
| #891 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Good news:))!!! I just flash Bios 5.40 on the Asrock B350 board. And installation works. No BSOD 0x7B after reboot. On nvme device this was other, no nvme device at all under Bios 5.40 in XP Dietmar EDIT: I am just installing on the normal sata AMD port (not asm106x). EDIT2: Storahci works only with alignment of 2048 at installationsmedia. EDIT3: Bad news: On last reboot compi crashs, exact as with nvme device. Now I try with Bios 4.60. Compi crashs also. EDIT4: I set up a windbg session and I see, it is an ACPI related error 0x000000a5 (0x00000011,0x00000008,0xF778F1E8,0x20120913). EDIT5: GOOD NEWS(!!!): This crazy XP changed a second time the acpi.sys back to its original version. Just in this moment I start XP SP3 with Bios 5.40 on normal sata AMD (not asm106.x). ⇗ ![]() |
| #892 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 how do i make sure that storahci is aligned to 2048 of installation media? |
| #893 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus You can look with Winhex or with AOMEI. On normal harddisk 63 sectors before 1. partition and on aligned 2048, mostly from beginning on SSD Dietmar |
| #894 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 is this for install ISO or harddisk? or both? |
| #895 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus It is for your sata ssd, how it is formatted. Aligned to 2048 is normal for ssd, from beginning. But not for harddisks, Dietmar |
| #896 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I think I can use windows 10 to properly format SSD? also, do i need to do anything to the ISO? or does nlite align correctly? |
| #897 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus "I think I can use windows 10 to properly format SSD?" Yes. I noticed, that when I install on medium (harddisk with 63 sectors before first partition) on next reboot compi hangs. I come to the idea, that this may be because of not using 2048 alignment. I reformat hd with 2048 and all went ok Dietmar PS: Has nothing to do with *.iso |
| #898 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you send me your known working XP install media with integrated storahci? That way, if I get a 7B BSOD I will know that there is something with my hardware causing the problem and not the install media |
| #899 | diderius6 | I am very interested to know, if somebody other get XP SP3 to work on Ryzen board Dietmar |
| #900 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 upload it here ⇗ https://uploadfiles.io/ then send me the link |
| #901 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 does the 2nd (lower) m.2 slot (the SATA one) on the AB350 gaming K4 work for you in XP? |
| #902 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I have no real ssd SATA M.2. Only nvme devices with different connections and harddrives and a SATA ssd with a sata connector exact like for harddisk. XP on harddisk works in the sata slot, which is dedicated also to the M.2 sata ssd Dietmar PS: What is the name of your sata ssd with M.2 layout? How is this device recogniced in Bios and later at boottime from XP via storahci? I dont know, if the Asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 is compatible with sata M.2 devices. EDIT: I just make a quick test: XP boots, works correct at each of the 6 Sata slots on the board. This XP SP3 is build only direct via this installationsmedium. EDIT2 : I just found this: Slot 1 is for a PCI-E M.2....SLot 2 is for SATA |
| #903 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 It's an WDS120G1G0B WD Green 120gb M.2 SATA SSD - It is in Slot 2 and is recognized by BIOS, linux and freedos can boot from it I'm not sure if storahci recognizes it can you post a screenshot of the harddisk selection screen you get to in XP textmode on AB350 K4? p.s can you send me your known working install media? |
| #904 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I will test it with sata M.2 ssd in slot 2 Dietmar EDIT: SATA port 3 is disabled if an M.2 SATA SSD is used in the secondary slot. EDIT2: SATA cable connector SATA3_3 blocks the use of the M2_2 slot! |
| #905 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I have made sure not to use SATA3_3 on my board |
| #906 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Does M.2 SATA work for you? |
| #907 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I have no M.2 SATA here. I ordered the same WD green 120 GB M.2 SATA as you have and it will arrive in next days. For USB mod until now no success Dietmar |
| #908 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you upload a copy of your known working for ryzen XP install media? |
| #909 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The installationsmedia works on any Sata slot on the Asrock B350 board Dietmar |
| #910 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 thanks |
| #911 | diderius6 | I would be happy to know, if somebody else also succeed to install XP SP3 on Ryzen board Dietmar |
| #912 | diderius6 | I found out that the
WdfCoInstaller01011.dll and WUDFUpdate_01011.dll used in the Microchip
winUsb inf file are not compatible to Windows XP at all. So I downloaded
the Windows Driver Kit WDK 8.1 (it's about 400MB but we just need ~4Mb
as always wink ) which contains the WdfCoInstaller01009.dll and
WUDFUpdate_01009.dll. Changing the Microchip Inf file to the Version 1.9 let it work in Windows XP, so this is what I changed: [CoInstallers_AddReg] |
| #913 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I tried your XP install media in my system - 7B BSOD, so it's my hardware on your install media. before the BSOD, the screen goes black to a blinking cursor - weird my guess is XP does not like my iodd 2531 - I'll have to go and get the real optical drive and media to test |
| #914 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I was beginning to think I would never see this screen ⇗ yay! now that I've made it this far, when do i use storahci.reg? |
| #915 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus No need for storahci.reg, it is only, when you want to install storahci.sys on running XP, I am happy, that it worked for you Dietmar |
| #916 | infuscomus | something strange I noticed with the AB350 Gaming K4 In my topmost pcie 1x slot I have a pcie USB2.0 card ⇗ https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32819465989.html I have noticed that this USB2.0 card will not function (usb devices plugged in wont do anything) unless I install the drivers for the graphics card that is below it. once i install the graphics card driver, the USB2.0 works fine very strange edit: I think it is the power state - D3 |
| #917 | kukonosau | To take me about installing acpi.sys please. I don't understand you. How to integrate or install new driver acpi.sys without acpi.inf? Can you show this process installation driver acpi.sys on new motherboard with B350 chipset? |
| #918 | diderius6 | ⇗ @kukonosau By hand you have to put modded acpi.sys into folder i386 on installationsmedium. For this, put XP SP3 CD in and extract all content of the CD to a folder XPSP3. In this folder via commandline type makecab acpi.sys this gives you acpi.sy_ which you have to copy into folder i386 in folder XPSP3. With nlite make a bootable xp.iso from folder XPSP3 and burn it to CD Dietmar |
| #919 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 got this error with XP today ⇗ any ideas for what causes it? |
| #920 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 have you seen this c021a error before? |
| #921 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes, I have seen this error c021a before. As far as i remember it happens, when an arcpath was not found. You can go to registry with regedit and delete whole key "Mounted Devices". Now XP has no information about the arcpath at boottime and takes first partition on first harddisk as drive c:\ Dietmar EDIT: May be you can start compi in Safe Mode, using F8 at boottime. Then delete key "Mounted Devices" in registry. |
| #922 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 is there a way to access the registry of the XP installation from within windows 10? |
| #923 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Yes, you can import HIVE "system" (in windows\system32\config) from connected XP drive, name it "otto" via registry of Win10. Do all wished changes in "otto" and then unload it. It is automatically stored back into Hive SYSTEM for XP Dietmar PS: The bootloader seems to chose USB1.0 during XP setup and this makes it slow. |
| #924 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #923 That would explain why it took 20 hours |
| #925 | kukonosau | I already did BSOD, but not ACPI compliant. I forgot errors. Sorry, I speak in English very bad. I speak in Russian. Do you speak in Russian? Can you tell me about errors ACPI in Russian? Answer me, please. I have not English practics. I sometimes used google- or yandex-translater. |
| #926 | kukonosau | Sorry, I must be use disks only or flash also? Because I often used flash device, but sometimes used DVD disks. I recorded Windows XP in flash with program YUMI. USB-ports detected in our time installation, but not ready operating system. Fortunatelly, I have keyboard and mouse PS/2 that support in almost everywhere. If use USB mouse she is uncorrectly work and after stopped worked 2 mouses before restarting system!!! |
| #927 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 Great works. I am happy to see XP works on your Ryzen board. I burned 2 discs, integrated with Nlite. Installing to hard drive. first disc failed with bsod 7E. 2nd disc failed with 7b, both failed during installation before first boot. My motherboard is Asus prime b350 plus with 2 PCI slots, and Ryzen 2600. Probably didn't integrate it right. I RWEverything Asus prime b350 plus, it has no MPS. Does your acpi work on your Asus b350? Only 1 hdd connected. I used acpi.sys ver 5512. 1st disc, I integrated all: storahci,nvme,asm106x, got bsod 7E 2nd disc, integrated only storahci, got bsod 7b. q1. Is sfc disabled a "must" during Nlite for Ryzen? I probably forgot did it here. q2. Do I need to add my hardware id to your storahci.inf? Under win8. I saw 2 entries, one is VEN_1022 DEV_43B7. the other has 7901, Should both ID needed to put into storahci.inf? q3. I just noticed 5048 posted a day later. I think v5512 is the right one, right? q4. I also have a Kingston A400 120GB SSD. Can I combine STORAHCI.sys's TXTSETUP.OEM and nvme.sys's TXTSETUP.OEM into 1 file like below so that I can choose(connect only) either HDisk or SSD before installation with the same iso disc. Will 2 disk0 and 2 [Defaults] entries interfere? [Disks] |
| #928 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar It is possibel to integrate many drivers in one txtsetup.oem. But in the beginning, one step after the other is better I think. You can test your STORAHCI integration via Nlite, when you hit F5 during installation and chose "Standard PC" there. When you can install XP, then do next step Dietmar PS: Here is example for 2 different drivers in one txtsetup.oem ; Copyright (c) 2010 Asmedia Technology ;############################################################################# ;# ;# Filename: TXTSETUP.OEM ;# ;############################################################################# [Disks] disk1 = "Asmedia 106x SATA Controller", \ASM106x, \i386 disk2 = "Asmedia 106x SATA Controller", \ASM106x, \amd64 [Defaults] scsi = asAHCI_32bit ;############################################################################# [scsi] ; asahci32.inf asAHCI_32bit = "Asmedia 106x SATA Controller 32bit" ; asahci64.inf asAHCI_64bit = "Asmedia 106x SATA Controller 64bit" ;############################################################################# ; asahci32.inf [Files.scsi.asAHCI_32bit] driver = disk1, asahci32.sys, asahci32 inf = disk1, asahci32.inf dll = disk1, ahcipp32.dll catalog = disk1, asahci32.cat ;------------asahxp64.inf--------------------------- ; asahci64.inf [Files.scsi.asAHCI_64bit] driver = disk2, asahci64.sys, asahci64 inf = disk2, asahci64.inf dll = disk2, ahcipp64.dll catalog = disk2, asahci64.cat ;############################################################################# [Config.asahci32] value = parameters\PnpInterface,5,REG_DWORD,1 value = "", ErrorControl, REG_DWORD, 1 value = "", Group, REG_SZ, "SCSI Miniport" value = "", Start, REG_DWORD, 0 value = "", Type, REG_DWORD, 1 [Config.asahci64] value = parameters\PnpInterface,5,REG_DWORD,1 value = "", ErrorControl, REG_DWORD, 1 value = "", Group, REG_SZ, "SCSI Miniport" value = "", Start, REG_DWORD, 0 value = "", Type, REG_DWORD, 1 ;############################################################################# ; asahci32.inf [HardwareIds.scsi.asAHCI_32bit] id = "PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_0601","asahci32" id = "PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_0602","asahci32" id = "PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_0611","asahci32" id = "PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_0612","asahci32" ; asahci64.inf [HardwareIds.scsi.asAHCI_64bit] id = "PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_0601","asahci64" id = "PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_0602","asahci64" id = "PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_0611","asahci64" id = "PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_0612","asahci64" |
| #929 | diderius6 | ⇗ @kukonosau Use last 5048 modmod acpi.sys from ⇗ @infuscomus, see here in download below. For normal XP installation it is best until now Dietmar PS: Use real CD an PS/2. XP install via flash drive and USB, strange things happen to me. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #930 | cedar | @infuscomus. Glad to know XP also work on your Ryzen board. I BSOD on two iso discs and also Winntsetup and get stuck on install loop. I can't boot back to win8x64 easily and need to repair boot manager to get back bootmenu. I have no experience on VM. what (stable)version do you use to test xp installations. Is there a preferred platform for your Asrock board? win7 or win8, 32 or 64bit? Under VM, is winntsetup the best way to go? |
| #931 | kukonosau | Where is file ACPI from infuscomus? How to install Windows XP SP2 x64 on motherboard ASUS AM4 B350 PRIME B350M-K? |
| #932 | cedar | ⇗ @kukonosau I think at post #821 |
| #933 | kukonosau | How to add acpi.sys in driver.cab?! |
| #934 | diderius6 | I think, because storahci needs storport.sys only XP SP3 can work with it Dietmar |
| #935 | cedar | ⇗ @kukonosau extract driver.cab to a folder using winrar or 7z put acpi.sys into folder. cabarc -r -m LZX:21 n driver.cab c:\folder\*.* |
| #936 | kukonosau | cabarc -r -m LZX:21 n driver.cab c:\folder\*.* is error in cmd: "cabarc" не является внутренней или внешней командой, пакетом или исполняемым файлом. Sorry, I can't translate in English. May be need this command in flash with MS-DOS? I don't understand. |
| #937 | infuscomus | ⇗ @kukonosau i think you need to download cabarc ⇗ https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3361...-cabarc-utility |
| #938 | kukonosau | Thanks. I used utility iexpress, create DRIVER.CAB, but BSOD after 2nd restart from install Windows XP when end registry components. |
| #939 | kukonosau | Congratulations!!! I can install XP with ACPI!!! I specially install and need BSOD. Before continue in Windows 10 and change old ACPI in folder C:\Windows\system32\drivers modify ACPI. Also before install I change file ACPI.SY_. DRIVER.CAB don't help me((( But where find files ACPI for Windows XP x64? ACPI from x32 doesn't work! |
| #940 | infuscomus | ⇗ @kukonosau i don't have a patched acpi for XP x64 does it have to be XP x64? programs for XP were usually x32 edit: try here ⇗ http://shorthornproject.com/allcategorie...em=item-drivers |
| #941 | kukonosau | How to correct acpi.sys for Windows XP x64? How you can correct acpi.sys for Windows XP x32? |
| #942 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you patch acpi 5048 64bit for ⇗ @kukonosau ? p.s I got my pcie usb2.0 card to function properly for xp testmode setup - i plugged a device into every port. now i can use my iodd 2531 for xp install |
| #943 | kukonosau | But how to patch acpi.sys? Do you can teach me? |
| #944 | infuscomus | ⇗ @kukonosau do you have a disassembler? such as ida pro? |
| #945 | kukonosau | No. I wont know, how disassemble file with expansion .sys |
| #946 | kukonosau | But I have Hxd. |
| #947 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I get with XP 64 bit the same error on the Ryzen board 0x7E 0xc0000005 (now in 64 bit much loonger) as with XP 32 bit. I change storport.sys against the new version and acpi.sys against original 5048 (64 bit) version. Then I make new txtsetup.oem and new *.inf for the storahci driver, integrate storahci with nlite, works as you can see during setup. But on XP 64 bit, there is no "Standard PC", only uniprocessor and multiprocessor, all with Acpi. But because I do not see any symbols with Ida Pro, I cannot hack the acpi.sys vers Longhorn 5048 64 bit. I think, it is also exact in the same place as in the 32 bit version, one byte change, means conditional jmp => forced jmp but I cant see where to do this Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #948 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 Thanks for the suggestions. I have tried many variations last few days, even the 486 Standard PC option. Installing ACPI Multiprocessor or Standard PC mode end up BSOD at the exact moment "Windows setup is starting" message appeared for my Asus Prime B350-Plus board. So I used a working XP sp3 running storport.sys from a Gigabyte P75 D3 board, then added newest 5048 acpi.sys and swapped the hard disk to the Asus board. Now, I can boot Standard PC only in "safe mode" with no usb mouse. It is stable inside this mode. It will BSOD on normal boot before entering Windows , however. Could it be this Asus board has 2 PCI slots, causing acpi.sys some incompatibility issues. Only an PCIE Geforce 8400 card was installed, nothing else, to isolate potential issues. |
| #949 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar What kind of BSOD you see, Dietmar |
| #950 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar I make a test with the asus prime b350 plus board. Oha, I got BSOD like you. NVME boot works, but only for "Standard PC". Booting with mod mod 5048 acpi.sys which works until now on any compi gives via windbg:
Dietmar |
| #951 | diderius6 | It is the same error as in post 488, the board Asus with B320 chipset there has also an PCI connector. 0xA5 (0x0000000D, Parameter2, Parameter3, Parameter4): There are many objects that must be defined in the ACPI namespace, and one or more of these was not found. This error generally occurs if either the _HID or _ADR object is missing. An _ADR is used to define the address of a device on its parent bus. The _ADR is a static address that defines slot numbers for devices that reside on any number of bus types, including EISA, floppy, IDE controller, IDE channel, PCI, PCMCIA, and CardBus. The _HID contains objects that supply the operating system with Plug and Play hardware ID for a device. Technically, these objects are optional, but they absolutely must be present to describe any device that is enumerated by an ACPI driver. So, some device is not recogniced via ACPI, may be pci slots Dietmar EDIT: I just boot "Standard PC" from harddisk. This means, the STORAHCI driver works like a charm. Only acpi.sys needs some more handwork for this board. |
| #952 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 The old 5048 and 5512 acpi.sys BSOD 7B. With the two older acpi.sys. I can't even get to safe mode on Standard PC. The newest (mod mod) 5048 have 7B or 7E. I Think mostly 7B. But the newest 5048 is good enough to be stable inside safe mode of Standard PC. To test PCI compatibility, I add a ATI HDTV Wonder PCI card into a PCI slot. Also no crash inside Standard PC in safe mode. So PCI seems to be stable here. I am getting some Youtube windows debugger tutorials... |
| #953 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar Good news:))! Small hack in mod mod acpi.sys 5048 from Infuscomus and voila, full XP SP3 "Multiprocessor ACPI" on the Asus Prime B350 Plus (with 2 PCI slots). All works, sound, network, grafik, USB 3.1, nvme boot, all SATA ports. The PS/2 port can only be used for one device, keyboard. Later it is no problem, because you have a lot of working USB 2.0 slots too. Dietmar ⇗
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| #954 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I dug up PEMaker 0.82 again and noticed your newly modded ACPI 5048 has a checksum error ⇗ PEMaker 0.82 is able to fix it infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #955 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Thanks, I just build an XP.iso for the Asus Prime B350 Plus board, works, I am just installing Dietmar EDIT: Install of XP SP3 is ready, nice, absolut stable. |
| #956 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6, @infuscomus. Thanks so much. I will test them very soon. |
| #957 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 New improvement at my end, replacing to the newest acpi on the swapped Hard Disk, I can boot APCI Multiprocessor in safe mode now. But still BSOD at normal boot and the blue screen extremely quickly flash may 1/10 of a second so, I can't even see what the message. Normally, the BSOD stay, and also no mouse. Tried with or without your 6 USBXPSP1 files overwriting the existing USB files in the \systems32\drivers folder, I still have no working USB!. So I used keyboard to install USB drivers, but only able to partially install the USB devices in Safe Mode, one root hub is ok, another root hub with exclamation mark. 3.1 extensible host controller got installed, but 3.1 hub refused installed!. May be things in safe mode behave a bit erratically, or the downloaded drivers did not match my USB hardware ID somehow. ⇗ @diderius6 , ⇗ @infuscomus Can you upload a workable USB 2.0/3.0 or 3.1 inf? Will make another installation disc, may be this time it will behave much better than the swapped hard disk method. Thanks. PS. the STORAHCI driver does works great even at my Gigabyte P75 (Z77) like board. |
| #958 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar Make a new installations disk for XP SP3 with nlite. Copy storport.sys and acpi.sys there by hand to folder i386 using makecab.exe for them before. The STORAHCI driver integrate via its txtsetup.oem in nlite. Burn this XP.iso to CD. On first reboot you have to copy storport again and later also acpi.sys. Only connect the keyboard to the PS/2 port. You will have no mouse all the time, until the USB driver works. After install is ready, copy the 7 USB files from XP SP1 to windows\system32\drivers. Then go to device manager, rightclick on USB device with DEV_43BB. Select for this "new driver" and go to the USB3.1 installationsfolder "Controller Drivers". After install of amdxhc31.sys a new window will open. This time go to the USB3.1 installationsfolder "Hub Drivers". Install amdhub31.sys. After all is ok, connect your mouse to the USB 2.0 slot under the PS/2 slot. Mouse will work and USB3.1 with full speed on green slots also. I tested yesterday this whole procedure Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #959 | kukonosau | Thank you!!! I connected USB-devices!!! Microphone Samson C01UPRO is working!!! You are better!!! :))) |
| #960 | diderius6 | Here is the AMD IOV device (AMD IOMMU DEVICE), works now under XP Dietmar PS: Look for DEV_1577 in device manager and use only AmdIOV.inf. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #961 | cedar | @diderius6. Thanks, I did used the AMD USB 3.1 drivers v1.0.5.3 WHQL on swapped hard disk earlier. The controller did installed , the Hub could not installed. Thus, no mouse. All of it was done in safe mode using only keyboard, slow and unsuccessful. Hopefully , nlite will fix it this time. |
| #962 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar I just make a new USB30 driver, which works on the Asus Prime B350-PLUS board under XP SP3. This is the very first time, that I see such an driver working^^ Dietmar EDIT: Funny, USB30 is on the same USB stick faster than USB31. ⇗
diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #963 | cedar | @Dietmar Still BSOD 7b after several burn discs either ACPI Multiprocessor, Standard PC, or Uni ACPI. All end up same message as below: 7B (0xF78D2524,0xc0000034, 0x00000000,0x00000000). Don't know if it is useful. Also having some Nlite problems, all files in root directoy not copied into final ISO, may be because Dotnet 2.0 SP1 was installed with a new copy nlite 1.4.9.3 download a day or 2 ago. Roots files and additional folders did copied into iso a week ago!. I did try your new AMD USB3.0 driver on the swapped drive method ( it boots ACPI Multiprocessor in safe mode only, my only bootable XP condition for Asus B350 Prime Plus). Have not succeed yet, as navigate with no mouse is a very slow process and prone to installing the driver into the wrong controllers and hubs as I can't see ID of controllers. So it is a hit and miss trials. Will try more later, since it works for you. I want to get any mouse working, on usb2.0 or 3.0 ports so I can navigate Windows to investigate what devices are having problems such that it BSOD in normal boot. I have 1 mouse at usb 2.0 port, another mouse at usb 3.0 port just in case if either could work. Still at partial installed of USB device controller and root hub. To see a bootable XP in my case. I need PS2 keyboard to press F8 into safe mode. I read it is somewhat unsafe to hot swap PS2 devices. It seem I can try hot swap PS2 keyboard with a PS2 mouse after "safe boot" into XP. But I am worrying about repeat hot swaps the PS2 mouse or PS2 keyboard after every boot. Is it hard to write a generic usb.reg script to install a USB 2.0 or 3.0 device?. I will google this. Cedar P.S. I will try this to see if it applies to XP. ⇗ https://windowsreport.com/usb-not-working-windows-10/ |
| #964 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar are you using an external USB CD/DVD drive for XP install? or an internal SATA CD/DVD drive? |
| #965 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus Before yesterday, I used an external USB CD/DVD drive for XP install. Yesterday, I used an internal SATA CD/DVD drive as well. I repeat older fails installs also on SATA just to make sure it is not USB problems. The BSOD happen on both external USB and SATA dvd drive. Setup is starting windows, BSOD always happened after this message. |
| #966 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar use the internal SATA CD/DVD drive for XP installs make sure to use nlite to integrate storahci driver for txtmode - ¶ Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts (59) |
| #967 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar Delete in boot.ini [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect Dietmar |
| #968 | cedar | @Dietmar Sort of good news. Most recent burnt disc fail both external USB DVD drive and internal SATA DVD drive. I just tried an old burn disc from 1 week earlier, with acpi ver 5512 on the internal SATA DVD driver, it failed APCI install. But at "Standard mode", for the first time, it let me choose which partition to install, proceed install and successfully installed and add it to the boot.ini menu. Even though it still BSOD 7B on reboot, but at least it installed. So the internal SATA DVD drive behaves much better than the USB external drive. Now I can swap this HDisk to another computer, and replace the older acpi ver. 5512 with the latest from June 29. and see what happen. So now, I would "avoid" the external USB drive to install. The old disc has all the files structure burnt correctly. Newer discs from last 2 days had Nlite problems, root files in ISO needed to be added back manually. Ok. I will remove "/noexecute=optin /fastdetect" from boot.ini Cedar |
| #969 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar I changed the cpu X4 950 against Ryzen 1700 on the Asus Prime B350-PLUS board. Funny, the USB30 changed with the processor now to DEV_145C where until now no 32 bit version is on the market. But USB31 is still there. The installations CD for XP SP3 works with new acpi.sys as good as before Dietmar |
| #970 | cedar | @Dietmar Good news! and good work on your X4 950. I recently learned that hardware ID got changed between IDE and AHCI mode. There was times I search for my hardware IDs and could not find a match on the net. It was confusing and unproductive. First time success installing XP in Standard Mode on normal boot, mouse works on USB2.0 port. USB3.1 extensive controller and hub were also installed. The other mouse on the USB3.0 port not work yet, as there is still 1 USB controller with yellow question mark. The Hardware ID is DEV_145F Tried your AMD3.0 driver on this USB controller. but did not work yet. may be in other PC mode, it will. The remaining yellow mark Devices are as follow: SM Bus controller with hardware ID DEV_790B PCI Encryption with ID DEV_1456 PCI Device with ID DEV_145A PCI Device with ID DEV_1455 PCI Device with ID DEV_1451 I suspect them to be south bridge controller, PCI Standard Host PCI bridge, Stander PCI to PCI bridge. Do they needed to be installed? They don't seem to interfere much at the moment. I will switch to ACPI Multiprocessor soon. Right now I navigate around to see if it is stable first. Then back it up to another partition before more testing. Edited: south bridge controller, PCI Standard Host PCI bridge, Stander PCI to PCI bridge all installed except PSP 3.0. Cedar |
| #971 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus Luckily, I still kept a few earlier fail installed discs. I was surprise it actually let me install sucessfuly from internal SATA drive. |
| #972 | cedar | @Dietmar I followed the procedures to switch-windows-xp-hal-from-standard-pc-to-acpi-without-reinstall ⇗ https://zedt.eu/tech/windows/switch-wind...hout-reinstall/ Instructions there is like below. It let me choose ACPI hal at the end of instruction without problem, and no hanging. I can still navigate around Windows. But upon reboot, can't get in this XP Windows anymore. But I can boot another backup Standard PC mode XP at a different partition. After normal booting ACPI Multiprocessor PC fail. I try to boot into Safe mode. It failed as well. This is strange ,because I could boot ACPI Multiprocessor PC in safe mode from swapped hard disk method mentioned earlier. Their Instructions: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So youve installed Windows Xp on a (probably very) old computer and forgot to check the BIOS to make sure APCI is enabled Now to switch Windows Xp from the Standard PC Hardware Abstraction Layer to the A(dvanced) C(onfiguration and) P(ower) I(nterface) one so that things like standby/hibernation and auto-power off work youve got two choices: Performs a repair install Follow the steps below: Open Registry Editor and browse to HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\PCI_HAL000 Right click the 0000 key and choose Permissions. Check the Full Control checkbox for Everyone. This will give you control to edit this registry key. Open the HardwareID value and change it from e_isa_up to acpipic_up (followed by one line break, the cursor should be on the line directly under acpipic_up). Open Device Manager, open the Computer key, right-click Standard PC, and select Update Driver. Youll pick from a list, dont search, answer accordingly. Select the ACPI entry, which will now be shown in the Compatible Hardware list (joy!), thanks to the previous registry tweak. If you actually CONTINUE with this and your system is NOT actually an ACPI system, it will become unbootable. Select Next and let the new HAL install. Reboot, and youre done! Since hal.inf locks you into only compatible HALs, you can now update again and select Multi-Processor PC if your system supports it, then youll have multi-cores. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was hoping their instructions work in my case. If works, it saves ton of time. I think there might be other method by add hal option into boot.ini. but not sure if it works. Edit: They use acpipic_up, may be the right one is "acpiapic_mp". for ACPI Multiprocessor PC. Edit2: Just tried "acpiapic_mp". It shows 4 entries of CPU types allow to be changed. So I chose ACPI Multiprocessor PC. All seem well. No hanging. Can operate Windows as usual. Next reboot, BSOD 7B. So something deeper is happening here. On normal boot This 7B is a bit different 7B ( 0xBACC3524, 0xC000 0034, 0x0000 0000, 0x0000 0000) Edit3: Try safe boot, got this 0x0000007B (0xF789E524, 0xC0000034, 0x0000000,0x0000000) |
| #973 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar All this you dont need, if you make a good installationsdisk via nlite for XP SP3, it works Dietmar |
| #974 | diderius6 | I overclock the Ryzen 1700 to
3650 MHZ. Stable, tested with Prime95, Cinebench 11.529 on XP SP3 and
youtube video at the same time on the Asus Prime B350 Plus board. Max
temperature is 70 degree celsius. Now it is exact as fast as the Intel Core i7-8700K, impressive Dietmar EDIT: Ram is Corsair Vengeance LPX schwarz DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-3200, CL16-18-18-36 (CMK32GX4M2B3200C16). |
| #975 | cedar | @Dietmar That is a nice system you have there :-). I am getting closer. I could proceed to complete install XP in graphic mode. change region setting, minor things etc. XP has no complains and stated setup is completed,and ask for reboot. Upon reboot, I get BSOD 7B. It could be a bios version problem. My Asus prime plus B350 bios is 4023. What version is your motherboard BIOS? Reboot in safe mode also BSOD 7B. I am pretty sure it installed(auto) at ACPI multiproc PC. I reinstalled at another partition sometime later. XP also said installation is completed, no errors. So it is not files or disk errors. But restart XP also 7B and safe mode too. I swapped the Hard disk to my Gigabyte P75-D3. Replaced jun 29 acpi.sys back with XP SP3 2008 ver. This XP from Ryzen installation work fine on P75-D3 (i3470 cpu). I verified it is indeed in ACPI multiproc PC mode. No error, mouse worked too in P75-D3. I think it is either my Nlite or BIOS version may be the problem. Cedar |
| #976 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar on your XP drive go to c:\windows\system32\drivers folder check that you have these files acpi.sys - our patched version - should be about 234kb in size storahci.sys storport.sys if you don't have these 3 files you will get A5 or 7B BSOD |
| #977 | cedar | @infuscomus. They are all there. I put extra copies in driver cache , i386 folder too, just in case. Windows may or may not look there. I also have a Sp3.cab and a Sp2.cab. I replaced the acpi.sys in those two cab as well just case. If I swap the XP installed on Ryzen hard disk to my other Ivy 3470 CPU system. Replace the newest (Ryzen) acpi.sys , your checksumed version with the one original from XP SP3. I can run this "new" installed XP (from Ryzen) on the older Gigabyte P75 Ivy system. So, the newly installed XP seem fully functional on Ivy but BSOD on Ryzen. On my Ivy system the same storport.sys also run the ahci mode. I can run XP on Ryzen in standard PC with the same storport.sys and Storachi, but not APCI Uni or Multi mode. Cedar |
| #978 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar I test with Bios version 3806 and 5007 on the Asus PRIME B350-PLUS board, both work Dietmar |
| #979 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar do you get the same BSODs in XP textmode setup? |
| #980 | cedar | @Dietmar Good to know that, mine is 4023 is somewhere in between, it should work then. ⇗ @infuscomus I got BSODs in XP textmode. and then swap the hard disk to the ivy system. Manually add acpi.sys, storport, and USBXPSp1. Storachi is already there. Swap back the HD drive to the Ryzen system. To install Std. mode or lately ACPI multi proc mode. Ryzen system then let me complete install graphic mode asking bunch of usual questions. Name, region time zone etc. till the end. Then XP said install complete, Click finish. quite smooth, no hiccup. On the Std PC mode. I can reboot back to XP. On ACPI mode, next reboot is BSOD 7B, so I try reboot again, this time in Safe Mode. Same thing, also 7B. reboot third time, 7B. The thing is, it let me completely installed. a bit unusual here . Cedar |
| #981 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar storport.sys is gone on reboot Dietmar |
| #982 | cedar | @Dietmar storport of course is always gone, after txtmode BSOD. After manually added after txtmode BSOD, it stays there. Is it not? Do you mean every reboot? |
| #983 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar during xp textmode setup do you ever see something like this? ⇗ as in, does storahci ever load? |
| #984 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus I did see a textmode screen. and can choose which partition to install to. Whether the word " Storahci" appeared at the end of the sentence. I am not sure. I will install again to see if it is there. I installed 3 times successfully at graphic mode. After textmode complete installed, BSOD is expected. I knew that. If I don't use the checksum version, it will complain. otherwise it proceed to complete textmode install. Windows folder size is about 550 MB in size after this After textmode installed. I add Storport and USBXPSp1. Next reboot, Windows let me install graphically with mouse working till the end. XP will say setup completed. Ask to click "Finish" button. On next (final) reboot, BSOD 7B. This I don't expect is normal!. BSOD 7B with this message (0xF78A2524, 0xC000 0034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) Try a 4th boot in safe mode, message "slightly changed" to (0xF789E524, 0xC000 0034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000). Windows folder size now is about 800 to 900MB. and Storport is here in system32\drivers folder after "Graphic Mode" completed. I swap HD verified that Storport, acpi, Storahci are all in system32\drivers folder. This Ryzen XP installation will boot ACPI in my older P75 (z77 clone), with 1 file acpi.sys replaced. So I am sure the XP is fully functional. I will install a 4th time, may be in MPS or other mode and see what happen. Cedar |
| #985 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar I think, the acpi.sys is restored to the original one. You only have to change this original acpi.sys (5512) against the modded acpi.sys (5048) one time more, Dietmar |
| #986 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 It is not ver. 5512. This version got me to Std. mode only. I used the newest jun 29 version on the burnt disc for the 3rd successful installation. Another older disc with jun 26 version from a week ago, I got the first 2 successful installed at textmode. and then I replaced the older jun 26 version, in \system32\drivers with the newest "jun 29". This let me boot again to install graphic mode successfully. I did it twice to 2 different partitions. Both success completely installed. But both XPs BSOD on next reboot. Safe mode BSOD too. On 3rd installed, I burn a new disc last night contain latest jun 29 version. Textmode and Graphic mode installed fine. Hoping it differs this time. But still BSOD after successful XP installion. Safe mode too. I am a bit confused now. Cedar |
| #987 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 Does it work in MPS mode? Or it is not meant to work in MPS mode. Cedar |
| #988 | cedar | @Dietmar I checked every time after installation. I have no version 5512 in any folders. All acpi are jun 29 lastest version. Cedar |
| #989 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar MPS has never worked for me have you got a storahci.inf in c:\windows\inf ? |
| #990 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus Hmm... there is no storahci.inf in my inf folder! Cedar |
| #991 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus and @ Dietmar I wonder if storport needed a .inf too?. |
| #992 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar storport didn't for me (although i needed to manually copy storport.sys over) storahci might need inf though |
| #993 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus I will put it in the inf folder. Edit: It did not work in this case, just tested. |
| #994 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar No *.inf is needed, when you can install Graphik Mode until its end. Make try to eliminate the extra entries in boot.ini. In other case, I am quite sure, that one of the files, I think acpi.sys (5048), is missed in windows\system32\drivers Dietmar |
| #995 | cedar | @Dietmar /noexecute=optin /fastdetect was deleted since 2 days ago on boot.ini for Ryzen. Did you hard code "Windows\system32\drivers" in Storahci or acpi? My Windows folder is renamed XP-ryz or something. This is the only thing I can think of which is different. |
| #996 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar Only C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers is allowed Dietmar |
| #997 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar try reformatting your XP drive using default settings in windows 10 or linux - XP default settings does not align properly for SSDs then install XP onto it - in XP setup when asked to format select no changes |
| #998 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus Any good utility to check alignment, are they accurate if the HD has 5 partitions?. How do you manage trim in XP?. I read that without trim. SSD life span is several times shorter without proper trimming. @Dietmar Does it mean D:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers or E:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers will not boot XP because of acpi.sys ?!! |
| #999 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar I dont think XP likes more than 5 partitions on a drive - max 4 SSD alignment see here ⇗ https://www.disk-partition.com/windows-1...ws-10-3889.html corsair SSD toolbox can TRIM in XP ⇗ https://www.corsair.com/ww/zh/blog/the-corsair-ssd-toolbox whichever windows is booted is always C: |
| #1000 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus My C partitions are usually 2GB, sometime with w2k in it. Winntsetup can setup any drive letter you want to the OS. It worked for me a few times. But properly not easy in this case, within Win81. I ended up repairing the bootmanager a few times on this XP,Ryzen setup. My other XPs on P75-S3 boot to D: or E: etc. |
| #1001 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar you should also check that your XP drive is MBR partitioned and not GPT partitioned |
| #1002 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar Best tool for correct formatting any device for XP is RMPrepUSB 2.1.739. I use for this an ICY BOX IB-112StU3-B, which makes life easy. If you use something other than C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers it can happen, that the arcpath is not found, gives BSOD 0x7B. To change this, only chance is to boot without any boot.ini (delete complete boot.ini) and delete via regedit the whole key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices Dietmar PS: When you set up or try something new: Make it clear and easy as much as possible, means in this case: Use a normal harddisk formatted as above with no other partition on it and MBR, partition aligned to 2048 sectors. |
| #1003 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus My drives are 2 TB. No GPT partitioned needed at the moment. @Dietmar My drives are 70% full. Yup, if I have a relatively empty HD, I can backup to another drive and reformat it. The fastest route now is burn another disc without renaming Windows default folder in NLite, and make sure all partitions are aligned. Nlite, on the same source files 2 weeks ago, Nlite work. About a week later, iso created by Nlite has issue. else I would have burnt a new disc already. It is getting pretty close to work now. Thanks |
| #1004 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus At textmode installation today, I did see StorAHCI on the right corner like your picture. @Dietmar Today I burn 2 discs. After edit the default Windows folder to "Window" instead of XP-Ryz. made the ISO, checked ISO txtsetup.sif file. It is Windows as default folder. Next add the AMDUSB30 and several more drivers. Made another ISO. burn the disc. NLite somehow reverted it back to Xp-Ryz. Should have check the final ISO again before burn! So changed the txtsetup.sif again. This time ISO changed "Xp-Ryz" to " Windows". I burn 2nd disc. and installed XP to the "true" C:\Windows partition hoping it will work. This is the 4th successful XP graohically installed. Reboot next, same "exact" BSOD 7b message, safe mode as well compare to 3rd successful installation. When I have an empty HD, wiill reformat as your suggested. May be alignment cause it. I will try my Kingston SSD after backup its Win81 content first. Cedar |
| #1005 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 i found a work around for storport not copying in txtsetup.sif [files.acpi] acpi.sys,4 acpiec.sys,4 oprghdlr.sys,4 storport.sys,4 now it copies across |
| #1006 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Nice finding, I will integrate in CD. In few days I test new Ryzen >=3000 for XP:)) Dietmar |
| #1007 | diderius6 | The generic modded STORAHCI driver for XP SP3 for all AMD boards works also generic on Intel AHCI Dietmar |
| #1008 | diderius6 | I just ordered an Asus Prime x570 Pro board, which has an COM1 port, important for windbg. After I saw first benchmarks I also ordered a cpu Ryzen 3700x and then I test test test under XP SP3 Dietmar |
| #1009 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Good CPU choice. I also think it's the best one from the 7nm launch. But why a new x570 MB? X370 BIOS update supports 3700X. X570 only good for Ryzen 9 16 Core / 32 Threads in September. ⇗ https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-3950x Better to use the money on that CPU instead of the 3700X if pairing with x570MB. 3700X no point on it since you also own the i9-9900K with same 8 Cores / 16 Threads. |
| #1010 | infuscomus | ⇗ @XPLives He is testing if the newer X570 chipset and 3700X CPU is compatible with XP B350 is already confirmed to work the 300 series motherboards might have power delivery issues for the newer 3000 series CPUs - AMD left it up to the motherboard vendors to support it |
| #1011 | XPLives | ⇗ @infuscomus If the point is testing X570 compatibility then just get the X570 MB and test an older gen CPU on it like a Ryzen 7 1700 which is 8 cores also. If it works then buy the Ryzen 9 3950x for 16 Cores. If you want to test 7nm compatibility then just buy a low end 7nm like a cheap quad core when it comes out. I just examined the AsRock X370 board and found it supports these latest Ryzen 3000 CPUS: AM4 Ryzen 7 3800X(100-000000025) 105W Matisse 3.9GHz 4MB B0 P5.80 AM4 Ryzen 9 3900X(100-000000023) 105W Matisse 3.8GHz 6MB B0 P5.80 Note the 3900X is Ryzen 9 3900X US $499 12 Cores (24) Threads So it looks like it can handle 12 Cores without needing X570. It's possible 16 Cores might work on a X370 MB when it releases in September with a BIOS update. Also note some of the newer > X370 MBs may no longer have legacy PCI slots on them making it harder to run 98SE retro cards so going to the newest generation will make it much harder if an older gen chipset already has the PCI slots you want and can support the 7nm CPU you want to use. It was already tough to find any X370 with them and I'm sure X470 and X570 will be even rarer. The only slight benefit for X570 is PCIe v4.0 which most graphics cards from XP era were probably PCIe 3.0 for the extreme models so it won't have any benefit for XP at all. If you want a chipset worth upgrading to it's 8 Dimm slots and 16GB or 32GB DDR4 or 64GB/128GB DDR5 memory sticks to reach the 256GB-1TB max. Most motherboards are capped at 64GB with 4 memory slots so 8 Cores feels too constrictive already and I would rather have 256TB memory with 8 Cores than 64TB memory with 16 Cores. |
| #1012 | infuscomus | ⇗ @XPLives PCI slots are still a possibility with enclosures ⇗ http://eshop.sintech.cn/pcie-express-x1-...le-w-p-933.html |
| #1013 | diderius6 | It is just a lie, that Ryzen 1700 does not work on x570 motherboards. Just in this moment I am installing XP SP3 on Asus Prime x570 Pro Dietmar EDIT: It hangs with blinking cursor, I cant see the harddisk. It seems to be a problem of the STORAHCI driver. It is not acpi related. NVME boot also not works. EDIT2: I connect the CD drive and the harddisk to different SATA slots, first and last. Now I can install XP !!!EDIT3: Acpi multiprocessor works, network works, sound works, graphik works, but USB is a problem, also no y-cable possible, only PS/2 mouse or keyboard. EDIT4: Nice, on this board, the Ryzen 1700 (!) at 3741 MHZ with 71 degree Celsius max, is faster than the i7 8700k. EDIT5: I just ordered USB card Silverstone SST-ECU05 and I-TEC PCI-E Karte 4x USB 3.0 PCI-Express 2x external 2x internal ueber 1x 20 Pin Adapter internal USB 3.0 port Windows 7 Vista XP (PCE22U3) ⇗ ![]() ⇗ ![]() |
| #1014 | XPLives |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1012 I recommended that enclosure method on another site about 2 years ago when SkyLake already begun phasing out PCI slots on the AsRock Fatal1ty. Fortunately other brands like Gigabyte made a SkyLake MB with 2 PCI slots. But when building a compact fanless all in one retro machine you want as little external adapters as possible. I think there was one that you could mount internally into a 5 1/4" front slot but you'd have to do internal wiring to a rear bracket for sound output. Finding 2 PCI slots on a X570 or Z470 / Z570 Ice Lake / Tiger Lake will probably be slim to none would be my guess. Maybe one or two models may exist as a B570 in limited quantities. I also have a PCIe to Dual PCI Slot adapter card (no enclosure) basically the same thing without paying a fortune for the external enclosure. I haven't had time to test that either to see if all PCI cards work properly in it via the PCIe slot but this is the cheapest solution. |
| #1015 | XPLives |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1013 Yeah I would find it strange if R7 1700 would not work. A newer one should maintain compatibility, but I hear the BIOS may run out of room soon for all the CPUs supported and I wonder if squeezing all future Ryzen 4000 CPU series will work on the X370. Do you have any X570 MB with Asmedia 106X SATA controller to test? Your method seems to only work with the nVME slot or is this on any AMD SATA controller too? Which universal SATA driver are you using with the X570 and where is the link? I will try this on the regular AMD SATA controller for compatibility. Also which ACPI.sys file are you using and I will see if X370 is compatible? The one modified by infuscomus for checksum for VM testing did not work on my X370 MB. Try installing XP using F7 NO ACPI method on X570 and see if it boots to desktop or can only run in Safe Mode. I'm curious if it also hangs on your motherboard during first boot to desktop. |
| #1016 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 Good works on your Asus board. I am having trouble to get the Lan network work. I tried a couple of Realtek drivers by adding my hardware ID to it. VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_86771043&REV_15 It installed but with yellow exclamation mark. So it did not work. Can I try your Asus Realtek Lan driver?. Versions tried: 0001-Install_Win8_8.1_Win7_Vista_6112_03122014 0001-PCI_Install_XP_2K_5719_04062012 Gigabyte P75-D3 ,date 2011 Asus Prime-Plus B350 disc Lan driver. Cedar |
| #1017 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus I am having trouble with XP Realtek Lan driver. Can I try your Asrock Realtek Lan driver too? May be it will work on my board too. As suggested earlier. [files.acpi] acpi.sys,4 acpiec.sys,4 oprghdlr.sys,4 storport.sys,4 I added storport.sys,4. But I got message "Storport has value 0 in [SourceDisksFiles]..." Can not install. Press F3 to exit. Cedar |
| #1018 | XPLives | Did you install and get that Realtek LAN working in Windows 7 or 10? If so what is the name of the device listed in Device Manager? Sometimes it will tell you Realtek 8168A,B,C,... the last letter at the end is important. If not shown there, you have to examine your motherboard with your eyeballs and see if you can find the Realtek Chip ID name which should show the letter after 8168. |
| #1019 | cedar | @ XPLives. The Realtek Lan works in win81. I believe I saw 8168H with H from Doubledriver. Edit: It is in section H. Not necessary 8168H. My mistake. From Doubledriver 's Restore.inf of Win7 a while back. DriverDesc=Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller DriverVersion=7.109.526.2017 DriverDate=5-26-2017 DriverProvider=Realtek DriverClass=Net DriverInfPath=oem5.inf DriverInfSection=RTL8168H.ndi.NT DriverHardwareID=pci\ven_10ec&dev_8168&subsys_86771043&rev_15 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From Doubledriver 's Restore.inf of "Win81", It has 2 IDs?! [RestoreInformation] DriverDesc=Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller DriverVersion=8.1.510.2013 DriverDate=5-10-2013 DriverProvider=Microsoft DriverClass=Net DriverInfPath=netrt630x64.inf DriverInfSection=RTL8168E.ndi.NT DriverHardwareID=pci\ven_10ec&dev_8168&rev_06 [RestoreInformation1] DriverDesc=Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller DriverVersion=8.1.510.2013 DriverDate=5-10-2013 DriverProvider=Microsoft DriverClass=Net DriverInfPath=netrt630x64.inf DriverInfSection=RTL8168.ndi.NT DriverHardwareID=pci\ven_10ec&dev_8168&rev_15 Strange! 2 Hardware ID's. Cedar |
| #1020 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar ⇗ @infuscomus ⇗ @XPLives I use this lan-driver for Realtek. acpi.sys is my latest version and STORAHCI (big thank to Samuel Marins Oliveira) also with new storport.sys and txtsetup.oem Dietmar PS: I do not edit txtsetup.sif by hand, only use nlite and copy by hand acpi.sy_ and storport.sy_ via makecab.exe to the installationsfolder i386 for CD. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1021 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 Thanks. I will try them soon. Cedar |
| #1022 | XPLives | Yeah you will have to do the eyeball to motherboard check. Look for where the Ethernet connector comes in from the rear side of the motherboard. Then follow that into the motherboard and look for any Realtek 8168 chip. You can find which model it is that way. Probably starts with RTL. I have a few PCIe NIC from Realtek and you can read it off the chip if you look closely. I can confirm the one in Ivy Bridge I had is 8168E that works in XP. Okay the one I recommended to buy off eBay the chip will say on it: RTL8111E. Cost about $5 on average shipped to the US total cost. This one works great if not depending on the motherboard to hook it up which sometimes you have to be picky about which motherboard to get if you don't want to use any internal slots up. |
| #1023 | diderius6 | I just flashed the new Bios PRIME-X570-PRO-ASUS-7010 with result, that the board with Ryzen 1700 does not promt any longer, brrr. But before I make a complete extract of the Bios with Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit 2.0.exe. Now I am going to flash the Bios back, because ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3 does not work at all! The Bios chip is Winbond 25Q256JWEQ, which is package size WSON 8x6-mm (8 pins) 25Q256JW 1.8V 256M-BIT SERIAL FLASH MEMORY WITH DUAL/QUAD SPI I use for this Epromer tl866ii plus which supports this Bios chip as W25Q256JW(1.8V) @SOIC8 Dietmar EDIT: I cant flash this Bios chip until now, because the package size 8x6-mm is too big for my test clip. Because my original 407 Bios version is not listed at Asus site, I think, they just deleted the CPU id for Ryzen 1700, for to make true, that this first generation of Ryzen chips can not work on this board.. |
| #1024 | diderius6 | I just see, that the Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit 2.0.exe reads out only 16Mbyte (I compared 2 times) but the Bioschip 25Q256JWEQ is 32Mbyte!!! So, on 256 Megabit Bios chip forget about this tool! (EDIT: May be, that the Bios was before 16 Mbyte. And this information is written in header and the rest may be only FFFFFFFF.. In this case, I have a working Bios file.EDIT2: No, the Bios is always 32 Mbyte. The Tool Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit 2.0 does not work for this BIOS. ) I make a try with Epromer tl866ii plus to read the chip out, but fail. I solder 8 cables, check check check each one for good contact, ok, works. But even without cpu, ram, cmos battery, the Epromer told "unknown chip" (but Pin check is ok) and reads out only FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...also as serial number FFFFFFFF. This behavior I know from results with other Bios chips, it just means, that not enough power is left for the insoldered chip. To solder this Bios chip out will be a hard job, because other solder points are very near. So I make NO try to write anything to this Bios chip, I also have no valid copy(?see above) from original Bios before. Now, I desolder all cables, connect cpu, batterie, ram but behavior is the same as before: The yellow LED is on all the time (ram). I changed to other DDR4 ram, test every slot, no success, always yellow LED on. So I wait for my 3700x cpu and then we will see. No error message has been there when updating the Bios with Asus EZflash tool from version 407 to 7010. Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #1025 | cedar | ⇗ @XPLives Wow, it is small like a pea on the motherboard. I need a flash light. It shows 8111H on the chip. Good info to know, thanks. After adding my HW ID to Dietmar's driver. Networking is ok now. The remaining 2 devices still have yellow exclamation mark are the AMD GPIO device and USB 3.0 driver. If I try to install USB 3.0 driver on the Standard Enhanced USB controller(installable), but with no function USB HUB driver. I got BSOD with USBport.sys error. So mouse on USB 3.0 port not working, but mouse on 3.1 port works, as USB 3.1 driver works. Cedar |
| #1026 | diderius6 | I changed the cpu Ryzen 1700 against Ryzen X4 950 on the Asus Prime x570-Pro. This time nothing at all happens, when I try to start the board. So I hope for the best, that the Ryzen 3700x (comes tomorrow) will boot this board. Interesting, if it is possible to flash back to the first, original 407 Bios Dietmar |
| #1027 | diderius6 | The yellow LED (ram) stays enlighted, even with new processor Ryzen 3700x on the Asus Prime x570-Pro. So, Asus has done a very bad job on their new Bios 7010 for this board. No flashback Bios no crashfree Bios, all lie Dietmar PS: Hope, that desoldering the Bios chips and flash new (with old Bios 407) will help. Or I put this board away and just stay with Intel. It is not me, to give up so quick. I just ordered the Epromer REVELPROG IS who supports the 25Q256JW Bios chip. I hope, that with this Epromer I can flash the still insoldered Bios chip. Until now, I do not find this Bios chip for to buy. EDIT: I found this Bios chip at mouser.com and ordered it: Mouser-Nr.: 454-W25Q256JWEIQ Herst.- Nr.:W25Q256JWEIQ Beschr.: NOR-Flash spiFlash, 1.8V, 256M-bit, 4Kb Uniform Sector EDIT2: After long search I found also a socket for this Bios Chip Description The socket is designed for chips with WSON8 6*8 mm package. The socket can be soldered directly on the WSON8 6*8 mm PCB foot print. Will be not easy to solder. ![]() ⇗ ![]() |
| #1028 | diderius6 | I succeed to flash the original Bios 407 back to the Asus Prime x570-Pro board. The serial number of the Bios chip 25Q256JWEQ is EF6019. Uefi tool shows this as a valid Bios, 16 Mbyte. I test this 2 times. All seems ok. I also read out before the "new" Bios 7010, Uefi tool show this as valid Bios, 32 Mbyte. I reset Cmos, put the Ryzen 1700 in, which works there before. But the yellow LED (ram) continues to shine. I test different DDR4 rams, in different slots. Always the same, Dietmar EDIT: I just order a new board Asus Prime x570-Pro. |
| #1029 | diderius6 | This message I send to Asus: "Dear Sirs and Madames, 5 days ago I bought an Asus Prime x570-Pro. The CPU is Ryzen 1700. Everything worked with it. A bios version 407 was indicated to me. I have made a backup of this bios, however, it does not work, possibly because of the wrong size 16 Mbytes, since the new updates all have a size of 32 Mbytes. The biochip is Winbond 25Q256JWEQ (Wson 8 * 6, 8 pins). With this Ryzen 1700 CPU I have updated to the Bios 7010. The update via USB stick was normal, means works full until the end, without any error message. After that I could not start the board anymore, the yellow LED (RAM) lights up constantly. Other DDR4 Ramsticks in different slots do not change that. I have also tested the Ryzen processor 3700x, the yellow LED is constantly on. I would be very happy if you could send me an original Bios 407 with the number for the network card, etc. I have experience in biosupdate and can flash a bios by eprommer. Please send me such a bios without the CAP backup, many greetings Dietmar " |
| #1030 | diderius6 | Now I will test the Ryzen 3700x for XP on the Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming k4 board, there I can change the Bios chip Dietmar |
| #1031 | diderius6 | Yessssssa, nice board Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming k4 !!! I think, this is very first time, XP SP3 on Ryzen 3700x. I update Bios from 5.40 to 5.80. Size of Bios is always 16 Mbyte. Even USB 3.1 works, ACPI, lan, sound, STORAHCI, mouse, y-cable on PS/2 and everything else. The Ryzen 3700x is in Cinebench without any overclock exact as fast as the 9900k Dietmar EDIT: Chipset is not running hot, and also the Mosfets not. Temperature is about 50 degree Celsius with Prime95, 3DMark2001, Cinebench, Youtube video running all at the same time. The CPU Ryzen 3700x reaches 78 degree Celsius during this torture , which is about the same as with Ryzen 1700.Both use 65 Watt. EDIT2: I just get 143 brandnew updates for XP SP3 from Posready2009:)). EDIT3: Any overclocking makes the cpu a little bit slower! EDIT4: Nvme boot of XP does not work. Last time was with Bios 3.30. EDIT5: With nearly zero load, cpu core is 1.50 Volt (standard settings all). This is not good for cpu long life. ⇗ ![]() |
| #1032 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Try installing XP with F7 NO ACPI method on the same motherboard. Will it install XP all the way to first desktop boot or freeze? Freezes on my Asrock X370. Safe Mode works but very sluggish as if something stalling it and mouse is laggy sometimes. Any Windows 2000 OS install on Ryzen success? Maybe try to add 3700X CPU MicroCode to BIOS 3.30 so it works and can use nVME XP boot? My hope is Intel Ice Lake / Tiger Lake continues same backward compatibility as Z370 so XP will continue to work using 10nm including Windows 2000. Seems too many compatibility issues with AMD AM4 so far. Intel's backward compatibility is superior. Intel Sapphire Rapids for 7nm and DDR5 / PCIe 5.0 256GB-512GB RAM support with 8 memory modules I will upgrade then and use XP. ![]() Tired of limited 64GB memory max with 4 slots instead of 64GB DDR5 memory sticks and 8 slots to match the 16 Cores / 32 Threads. |
| #1033 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives I have not tried to install "Standard PC" on Ryzen 3700x, because then you dont get Acpi after. Only vice versa this works. The installation works without any crash or freeze. I noticed another thing: On Ryzen 1700 the STORAHCI driver was faster than the ASM106x. But on Ryzen 3700x, the ASM106x is faster Dietmar PS: Asrock changed whole Bios from version 3.30 to version 3.40. With 3.40 the problem with lancard is gone, but also nvme boot is gone. So, in the end I stay with Intel, because those kind of problems I have never seen there. It is a problem of how the board is constructed. Crazy, how Asrock can to give lancard the same lines as for USB3.1. On all my newer Intel boards I can do nvme boot of XP SP3 and those crazy problems with Bios updates I match the first time with AMD, brrr.., but ok, now I am again better in soldering..and do crazy things to flash an Bios chip:)). |
| #1034 | infuscomus | ⇗ @XPLives Can you take a screenshot of the A5 BSOD you are getting on X370 in XP? |
| #1035 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Lost_N_BIOS Can you please help me to save my Mac adress etc. from the broken Bios of AMD board asus prime x570-pro? I make a backup with working Bios 407 with Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit 2.0.exe, which may have wrong file 16Mbyte size which I call 407. The other is with Epromer full read out after the update, not working Bios 7010 32MByte, I call 7010. Dietmar PS: Both Bioses should have Mac adress etc. from my board and they should be identic. ⇗ https://ufile.io/0nlebva8 ⇗ https://ufile.io/pttbiy9k |
| #1036 | diderius6 | Ok, what I found with Winhex for the Asus Prime x570-Pro board in its readout of Bios 407 (and also 7010) is SN 190551498900517 (Dezimal) at 2 places MAC 04D9F51E29E0 (Hex) at 2 places UUID D008090B92A5E8F9C07D04D9F51E29E0 (Hex) at 2 places From Asus Website I download oldest Bios, what I can get 0602 version. This Bios I open with UEFI-Tool and for to delete cap I store only UEFI image (under AMI Aptio capsule). I use FD44Editor.exe to copy this values direct into the downloaded Bios (free from cap) from Asus website (to change the 2 times 50 (FF..) against the above values at its 2 places ) and flash via Epromer direct to Bios chip, Dietmar |
| #1037 | diderius6 | I flashed this bios 602 with Mac, UUID, SN back to Asus Prime x570-Pro board. I doublecheck, that the written Bios is exact the same as the Bios file. But still the yellow LED is on, so something really bad is going on Dietmar |
| #1038 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 faulty RAM maybe? |
| #1039 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus No, I tested different Ram sticks, different brands. All they work on other boards. Double, single mode, each slot. It is Bios related, because the same ram works before also on this board, see photos in post 1013 here. And it is not only one Bios for this motherboard, that fails. The 602 version fails also, next to 7010. The only Bios, that worked, was version 407 for Ryzen 1700. Tomorrow I will test this Bios 407 and also Bios 804 on second new board Asus Prime x570-Pro with Ryzen 3700x. Dietmar PS: Asus sent me mail, that they accepted my case but nothing more. |
| #1040 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1033 Yes that is the point of the test to see if it installs fully and boots to the desktop in F7 NO ACPI method. If it works then you can still use XP minus hyperthreading and shutdown/standby on AMD AM4. This determines compatibility. In all the tests I've seen with Coffee Lake and SkyLake both have no issues installing XP to completion using this method. I want to see what happens on your X370 and your X570 MBs using "F7 NO ACPI method" if XP can install successfully and boots to desktop in normal mode. If not I want to know where it freezes and if Safe Mode works to get to the desktop during this failure. |
| #1041 | XPLives | ⇗ @infuscomusZitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1034 It's your typical BSOD A5 screen message. Here are the Error Codes using your image: ⇗ How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) |
| #1042 | diderius6 | I just ordered the cheapest RAM stick (20 Euro), which is in the compatiblity list from Asus for memory for the Asus Prime x570-Pro board. G.Skill NT Series DIMM 4GB, DDR4-2133, CL15-15-15-35 (F4-2133C15S-4GNT) Dietmar PS: If this one also will fail, it is to 100% the fault of Bios from Asus. |
| #1043 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives At the moment I have no working x570 board. But I think, without ACPI install of XP SP3 will be no problem Dietmar PS: When you install XP SP3 via CD, the screen with special BSOD is important for diagnosis. |
| #1044 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1043 Test on your X370 MB with F7 NO ACPI method install. Let me know the results for your Ryzen 7 3700X and Ryzen 7 1700 CPUs if both install XP successfully with NO ACPI. BSOD A5 ACPI Error Code Results are here: ⇗ How to install Windows XP OS on AMD (AM3+ 990FX and AM4 X370 Ryzen 7) Unfortunately your ACPI.SYS did not work. It's possible your ACPI.SYS is only compatible with your MotherBoard or just Ryzen CPUs but not earliest AM4 Bristol Ridge and Raven Ridge CPUs. At the moment I cannot say the ACPI.SYS is universal since it has failed on my X370 which should have worked. I have yet to test it on the SkyLake and Coffee Lake MB to see if that fixes the ACPI issue. I'm now testing F7 NO ACPI method using the same image. Should see the new results within the hour. |
| #1045 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives Read post 891 here Dietmar PS: I test Athlon X4 950, A8-9600, Ryzen 1700, Ryzen 3700x, 8700k, 9900k for XP SP3. All work with this acpi.sys. And Infuscomus test also 2400G with success. Also I test some Celerons, Pentium for Skylake, Coffeelake, work with full ACPI. |
| #1046 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1045 If your X370 works with Bristol Ridge then maybe motherboard differences exist between B350 and X370 chipsets. Test F7 NO ACPI on your B350 XP install on your Bristol Ridge see if it can install XP completely to first desktop. Still installing XP (driver.cab) 7% stuck for a long time almost half an hour. Might reboot the computer and hook optical drive to a different SATA port than AMD if this takes too long with no progress. |
| #1047 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives Until now I do not have a x370 board for testing. From AMD I tested B320, B350, x570 which all works with full acpi and XP SP3 Dietmar PS: I installed XP SP3 on 2 different Bristol Ridge CPUs without and also with acpi, see above. |
| #1048 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1047 Ahh... I had to reset then moved both optical drive and SATA SSD to Asmedia 106X ports. I think AMD SATA ports dislike XP installation for some reason. Even SSD on AMD and optical drive on Asmedia had issues. Seems to copy now faster on both Asmedia but hanged on different parts after files copied. Now I reset the BIOS and do a clean test again now to be certain no conflict. Were your ACPI and NO ACPI tests all done on SATA SSD on Asmedia SATA ports? |
| #1049 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives Most I use normal harddisk (I use about 20 harddrives each 2 Terabyte black WD, very fast>200 Mbyte/sec) because I can easy format, align and copy file by file from and to them via USB adapter Dietmar PS: Before we have STORAHCI driver, which works for any AMD and any Intel SATA, I always use asm106x. Only for Intel board, there has been a generic SATA driver for years now on the market. The CD drive only hangs, when the CD disk is not absolut clean. |
| #1050 | infuscomus | ⇗ @XPLives So my install media that I used for my AB350 GamingK4 board froze for you on X370? What motherboard do you have? Which BIOS version? BSOD A5 ACPI Errors: 0x00000011 0x00000008 0xF79A1478 0x20120913 I think this means ACPI failed to load DDB. ⇗ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...acpi-bios-error I would get this error when I tried to patch the DSDT table, never worked and ended up using the patched driver that supports more arguments (CreateQWordField for example) |
| #1051 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Lost_N_BIOS Do you know a tool, that can read out the full 32 Mbyte of Bios chip on AMD AM4 board Asus Prime x570-Pro? Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit reads only 16 Mbyte out, but Winbond chip 25Q256JWEQ is 32 Mbyte, Dietmar PS: Ok, this means soldering. |
| #1052 | diderius6 | With original readout of the 407 Bios (nightmare, is really 32 Mbyte and not all FF after first 16 MB, so the tool Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit 2.0 cant be used for this Bios chip with 32 Mbyte!) I succeed to start with Ryzen 1700 and with Ryzen 3700x on the AMD AM4 board Asus Prime x570-Pro XP SP3 full Acpi, all works, USB only via Pcie card. The website from Asus tells only nonsense about Bios versions, compatible Ram and compatible processors for this board Asus Prime x570-Pro. And the most evil is, that the Bios version 407 cant be found there. Ryzen 1700 works at once with all different ram sticks, but for the Ryzen 3700x I had to change ram as much as possible, before one time I see the yellow LED blinking. After next 4 tries with changing ram, slots.. the board starts with Ryzen 3700x. Any other Bios version than 407 does not work on this board until now. NEVER update your BIOS on this board or you will be lost!!! EDIT: After 30 min prime95 with Ryzen 3700x it crashes. The Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming k4 runs stable for about 2 hours with the Ryzen 3700x and the torture includes prime95, Cinebench, 3Dmark2001 and Video from Youtube all the time. So, this 80 Euro board is better than this new one for 280 Euro, brrr.. EDIT2: With Ryzen 1700 @3641 MHZ and the same torture test, the Asus Prime x570-Pro (Bios 407) crashes after 53min. Tmax is 74 degree Celsius. Repeating the same for Ryzen 1700 no overclock at all, now it crashes after 35 min. Asus Prime x570-Pro is build quick and dirty. Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #1053 | diderius6 | I run a new stresstest on the Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming k4 with the Ryzen 3700x cpu. prime95, Cinebench, 3dmark2001, video from Youtube all the time. It is stable, nice board. Even the temperature managment is better on the Asrock board than on the asus prime x570-pro: 78 degree Tmax Asrock against 81 degree Celsius Tmax Asus in long run Dietmar PS: Asus send me a mail, that I can rma the board. And that they dont have the Bios 407 (from their own board(!)) .Oh, a lie in combination with worst service ever. EDIT: Correction, Asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming k4 board crashes on this torture also after about 1 hour. First network connection is gone (this is reproducible in about 1 hour torture) (Youtube) and then BSOD, brrr.. EDIT2: Now 90 min torture on the Asrock board without any crash. |
| #1054 | diderius6 | I succeed to flash the Bios back on the Asus Prime x570-Pro board, something, from what the man from Asus told "it is impossible". The Bios chip is now "hardwired", I use the SPI-TPM link for this: Adapter with 2 rows a 7 pin, 2 mm distance SQT-107-01-L-D via mouser.com Dietmar PS: By the way I notice, that all about Mac, UUID, serial etc. is also nonsense. I have now 2 compis which where to 100% identic. Take a look at the Bios version:))!!! EDIT: On Cinebench, the Ryzen 3700x is 23% faster as the Ryzen 1700. Hm, for what is the Hype? ⇗ ![]() ⇗ ![]() ⇗ ![]() |
| #1055 | diderius6 | The REVELPROG IS is by far the best Epromer, that I know. It is manufactured in Poland and quite expensive (150 Euro). Very good quality and good Software support. And it is fast. It runs on XP SP3, Vista, Win7, Win8, Win8.1, Win10 (all 32 or 64 bit). Now I can read and flash any Bios chip, without any soldering or to put the Bios chip out of the mainboard. No clip is needed. I just use the SPI TPM connector with this nice Epromer, professional as in factory, Dietmar PS: It includes a Hexeditor, so you can manipulate single Bits in Bios file and flash this new Bios. Also it has a checksum tool. And a DiffChecker tool, that allows you to compare 2 bin or hex files at one screen (waoh). EDIT: SPI TPM (female) Adapter is 2 rows 7 pin, 2 mm distance SQT-107-01-L-D via mouser.com |
| #1056 | nofearek9 | hello,whats the solution for winxp to see hard drivers bigger than 2TB ?
Asus Rampage IV Black Edition,Intel Xeon e5-1680v2@4,7ghz,Corsair XMS3
64GB DDR3(8x8),Samsung 950 PRO 256GB,EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 XC GAMING
8GB,Lian Li PC-60FNWB ,Corsair Gold AX750PSU,Noctua NH-D15 . Asus Rampage III Gene,Intel Xeon X5660@ 4,5ghz,Corsair XMS3 48GB DDR3(6x8),Samsung 950 PRO 256GB. |
| #1057 | diderius6 | ⇗ @nofearek9 You can buy the driver Paragon GPT Loader for XP, I have, with which you can read GPT drives under XP as large as you want Dietmar EDIT: And even with MBR XP can work via USB with really big drives, just formatted with NTFS and 4k sectors. ⇗ https://www.seagate.com/de/de/internal-h...s/hdd/ironwolf/ 16TB 5 years garantie, 250 MByte/s, sectors 512e , means Emulation via 4k should be recogniced from XP from start. By the way, I prefer WD, no error on HD in 10 years. Align to 4096 sectors and all HD with 512e > 2TB can be used in XP 32 bit also as boot device with MBR, very fast, no difference to <= 2TB. ⇗ https://geizhals.de/western-digital-wd-b...=de&hloc=de&v=k 250Mbyte/s read, write in XP, nice. |
| #1058 | nofearek9 | i dont want to format the
drives cause they already have data on them,its about 3TB usb
drives,paragon dont offer anymore the driver is discontinued.
Asus Rampage IV Black Edition,Intel Xeon e5-1680v2@4,7ghz,Corsair XMS3
64GB DDR3(8x8),Samsung 950 PRO 256GB,EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 XC GAMING
8GB,Lian Li PC-60FNWB ,Corsair Gold AX750PSU,Noctua NH-D15 . Asus Rampage III Gene,Intel Xeon X5660@ 4,5ghz,Corsair XMS3 48GB DDR3(6x8),Samsung 950 PRO 256GB. |
| #1059 | infuscomus | ⇗ @nofearek9 I have GPT loader if you want it |
| #1060 | nofearek9 | yes please ,if you can upload it will be nice,thanks.
Asus Rampage IV Black Edition,Intel Xeon e5-1680v2@4,7ghz,Corsair XMS3
64GB DDR3(8x8),Samsung 950 PRO 256GB,EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 XC GAMING
8GB,Lian Li PC-60FNWB ,Corsair Gold AX750PSU,Noctua NH-D15 . Asus Rampage III Gene,Intel Xeon X5660@ 4,5ghz,Corsair XMS3 48GB DDR3(6x8),Samsung 950 PRO 256GB. |
| #1061 | infuscomus | ⇗ @nofearek9 I sent you a PM |
| #1062 | XPLives | ⇗ @nofearek9, ⇗ @diderius6, ⇗ @infuscomus Zitat von ⇗ nofearek9 im Beitrag ¶ #1056 Since this discussion relates more to my other thread I felt it better to respond there in its entirety where it makes more sense. ⇗ The XP Yeager Project: 16TB -- Breaking the 2.2TB Capacity Barrier |
| #1063 | canonkong | I had made some generic USB drives for XP 32/64bit, and it test on my B360, X370 and R7-3700X has a usb controller named 149C, the same with X570. They are all working! |
| #1064 | infuscomus | ⇗ @canonkong Nice! I have a B350, 2700X, 2 extra AMD USB 3 controllers 15E0 and 15E1 that currently are not working on XP |
| #1065 | nofearek9 | thank you all for your replys.
Asus Rampage IV Black Edition,Intel Xeon e5-1680v2@4,7ghz,Corsair XMS3
64GB DDR3(8x8),Samsung 950 PRO 256GB,EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 XC GAMING
8GB,Lian Li PC-60FNWB ,Corsair Gold AX750PSU,Noctua NH-D15 . Asus Rampage III Gene,Intel Xeon X5660@ 4,5ghz,Corsair XMS3 48GB DDR3(6x8),Samsung 950 PRO 256GB. |
| #1066 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I am very interested, how you reach this Dietmar PS: Do you have an idea, how to make USB ports on newer Intel boards to work under XP? This would be a big step forward. |
| #1067 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Modify like win7 usb drivers for new platforms. You need to find some USB driver support XP and use XHCI 1.0 and modify them inf/sys files. Then sign the driver. |
| #1068 | XPLives | !canonkongZitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1067 What is your interest in XP and Windows 7? Can you make Intel USB 3.0 driver for Vista work? I'm not sure what your process is. You took Intel Windows 7 USB 3.0 driver and did what to it to make it work in XP? How do you sign the driver for XP? Can you modify Intel XP Graphics Driver for Intel HD Graphics 4000 to work on newer SkyLake HD Graphics 530 and Coffee Lake 630? Would be nice to use newer Intel HD Graphics 4000 driver even if not using the full power of the iGPU while under XP instead of generic Windows driver. Also any way to modify the graphics driver to use shared memory above 4GB memory region instead of taking away from XP OS region and increase shared memory usage range higher like 2GB to 4GB RAM? |
| #1069 | canonkong | ⇗ @XPLives I am still using win7 for my B360 Z390 X370 and prepared to buy X570 and 3950X, they all will install win7 because I dont like Bug10. I modified few usb drivers for B360/H370/Q370/Z390 and X570, they both can work on win7/win8/8.1,but I dont have try vista. Maybe it also can work. I aslo modified UHD630 drivers for win7/win8/8.1, but I dont think it can support Xp. For sign, I have signtool to do that. XP 32bit can also support above 4G RAM like server 2003. |
| #1070 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I have a lot of USB 3.0 and USB 3.1 drivers, which work under XP. To modify *.inf is clear for me, but all fail for newer Intel chipset USB ports (bluescreen or drivers does not start). How to modify *.sys files as you told? Is there the _DEV number something like hard-coded in the *.sys files for XP Dietmar |
| #1071 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1054 Only 23% faster is not bad for one generation for AMD. But I think the real hype is the lower wattage consumption going to 7nm. I still think Intel has better BIOS options than AMD on the same MB manufacturer. I don't know why that is. Can you lower CPU Ratio to below 8 on your X570 MB? Can you decrease CPU speed below 800 MHz? How low can the CPU Core Voltage be set? |
| #1072 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Use IDA7.0, it can show the sys files running. Find out the DEV_ID confirm parts, replace ID or use jmp and nop to block them. You can download this modified driver, it not only can support Intel USB devices, you can modify the ID like CC_0C30 or CC_0C330, that it can work almost all usb controllers devices. ⇗ [Solution] Win7 drivers for USB 3.0/3.1 Controllers of new Intel chipset systems |
| #1073 | XPLives | ⇗ @canonkong Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1069 Yes that is why I wonder if you can use the Intel HD Graphics 4000 driver for XP to work on HD 530 and 630 Intel Graphics with some modding? Not the other way modding Windows 7 driver to work in XP. Vista if you can make work for Intel USB 3.0 will work for Windows 7 and maybe 8 automatically. Forward compatible so no worries. Which signtool for XP do you use? XP 32-Bit can use over 4GB but mainly for a large Ramdisk but 2003 does it better directly. "Use IDA7.0, it can show the sys files running. Find out the DEV_ID confirm parts, replace ID or use jmp and nop to block them." Which USB 3.0 driver are you modifying to work in XP? Can you use a hex editor to modify the parts also? Are you getting full USB 3.0 speeds in XP or USB 2.0 speeds? Did you test with all USB devices working? - USB Keyboard, USB Mouse, USB Audio, USB hard drive, USB webcam? |
| #1074 | canonkong | ⇗ @XPLives Signtool can use Asia Trust signtool. You need find a driver can support XP original then when you modified the sys file,it will success more easily. Almost all usb drivers can modify support other devices if the driver use XHCI1.0 original. Use IDA will better than HxD. The speed base one the controller, if it can support usb3.0, it will run 3.0 mode. Almost all usb devices can work, but USB to nvme disk maybe can not work if you dont link a usb hub. |
| #1075 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong How can I find "DEV_ID confirm parts" with IDA pro in *.sys file? Have I to mod both, xhci and hub driver? Do I need the *.pdb for this? Is there a difference between AMD and Intel USB drivers? Is there a difference between USB3.0 and USB 3.1? Which XP 32 bit USB 3.0, USB 3.1 drivers you woul recommend for hack? Have you done this for XP with success? Is PCI\CC_0C03 best as generic _DEV Dietmar PS: Sorry for this a lot of questions. But I want to make USB work on newer Intel, AMD chipsets for XP. |
| #1076 | XPLives | ⇗ @canonkong Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1074 The link you had earlier was for the Windows 7 USB 3.0 driver? Or does that one also work on XP? If not where is the one for XP you modified? Which XP USB driver company did you base the mod test on before you modified it? It was not Intel since they didn't have any XP or Vista one released even today. How do you know which USB drivers support XHCI1.0 original? Are you referring to USB 3.0 drivers for XP and not USB 3.1? |
| #1077 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Just modify xhci.sys and *.inf is enough. *pdb is not need. I didnt found any difference between 3.0 and 3.1.They both can work. NEC VIA intel amd both are ok. I will share an USB driver tonight when I after work, you can test it and report it. |
| #1078 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong The VIA USB 3.0 driver is very stable and fast in XP. So this would be a good choice. I just take a look at the Asmedia ASMUSBHost_v1.16.55.1 driver for USB 3.1 for XP, which works. You are right, for example in xhci.sys with unicode 0, <PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_2142&*>,0 is hardcoded there, so it can work Dietmar EDIT: I just make a test, changing in Asmedia ASMUSBHost_v1.16.55.1 driver for USB 3.1 for XP asmtxhci.sys |
| #1079 | diderius6 | At once I come to the idea, to test this nice method from ⇗ @canonkong also for other devices, namly Intel(R) Ethernet Connection I219 Dietmar |
| #1080 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I wonder if HWIDs are hardcoded into nvidia drivers? It would be awesome to have RTX 2080Ti working on XP sure ray tracing won't work but still having a faster GPU would be nice |
| #1081 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I think, it has only a chance to work, when there is a generic driver, as for USB PCI\CC_0C03 Then you can change the special VEN_&DEV_ against the generic one Dietmar PS: And you need a driver, that works for XP before. Sometimes you have luck with driver for Vista or Win2003 or Win7. This you can check with Dependency Walker. If there is one red mark, no chance without heavy mod. |
| #1082 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Try it, maybe can both support AMD and Intel usb device. Tell me it wokes or not. |
| #1083 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong On Intel board this nice driver works as generic USB 3.1 for XP SP3 32 bit. On Intel board for USB 3.0 this driver does not work. Waaoh, great work Dietmar EDIT: Correction: The driver (xhci and hub) installs, but the device (USB stick or mouse) is not recogniced. |
| #1084 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 What about AMD 300/400series and x570? |
| #1085 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 "The driver (xhci and hub) installs, but the device (USB stick or mouse) is not recogniced." intel usb3.1 or 3.0, and both can not work? There few ways to modify it. Maybe need to change somewhere. |
| #1086 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong USB 3.0 does not work. For USB 3.1 xhci and hub driver installs correct, but the mouse and Usbstick is shown as unknown device with each Vid_0000&Pid_0000 meaning, those numbers are not recogniced gives "unknown device" in device manager. This happens for mouse and for Usb stick Dietmar EDIT: This empty Vid&Pid means, that Usbstor.sys is not loaded. |
| #1087 | canonkong | diderius6 What about AMD 300/400series and x570? Because this driver once is prepare for X570, just add an ID for intel, not fully suport , maybe intel platform need to fix somewhere. |
| #1088 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong On the Asus Prime x570-Pro all USB3.0 slots work (mouse, usb stick) under XP SP3 with your driver. All drivers for USB3.1 and USB3.2 are installed, but usbstor does not start for them, which gives unknow device (for mouse, usb stick) as for the Intel board Dietmar |
| #1089 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 "X570 is working well? All USB3.0 slots work (mouse, usb stick) under XP SP3." Right? "All drivers for USB3.1 and USB3.2 are installed,but usbstor does not start for them, which gives unknow device" meant x570 for mouse, usb stick can not work? |
| #1090 | infuscomus | ⇗ @canonkong is amdstor.sys necessary? can you just use usbstor.sys? |
| #1091 | canonkong | @ infuscomus Maybe we can try it. |
| #1092 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I tried the Asmedia Usb files. They are installed, ask for reboot, but then not start. The Asmedia USB has the advantage, that there are real USB3.1 and USB3.2 drivers for AMD and Intel. When you can describe a little bit more, how and what you change in the xhci.sys file may be I can help you Dietmar PS: My own created Asmedia driver is also installed correct, but does not work. EDIT: No other files are needed. It is just a small missing thing in modding xhci.sys. |
| #1093 | diderius6 | I just see, that in the *.inf file the file amdstor.sys is mentioned. So, now I think, it takes the role from usbstor.sys Dietmar PS: So you need to copy the file amdstor.sys into folder windows\system32\drivers. I make a try with renaming amdstor.sys to usbstor.sys. |
| #1094 | canonkong | The driver work well on win7, maybe Xp need to change more. Because I dont have any experience about programing, so I just try it again and again. Few days ago a hacker told me that we can modify the win10 usb driver. Is it possible to modify a win10 usb driver work on win7? And I thought maybe some hackers can do that, but they dont have this ability, it to hard. |
| #1095 | diderius6 | Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I got all USB 3.0 3.1 3.2 drivers to work under XP SP3 !!!!!I just rename in *.inf all amdstor => usbstor Thats all Dietmar PS: So much thanks to ⇗ @canonkong! ⇗ ![]() ⇗
diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1096 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 Good works!. The USB3.0 posted earlier did not work in my Asus Prime 350 board. Can you post the new mod 3.0 driver? may be it will work for me too. Any progress on XP64 ACPI?. Backup from X265 is about 35% faster on X64 platform than 32 bit OS. The newest ffmpeg64 for XP64 tested is at about Nov 2017. Don't know if anyone have a newer version? Cedar |
| #1097 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar Make try with the USB file that I post here (with nice help from ⇗ @canonkong). It is really generic Dietmar |
| #1098 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus Not much luck with the burned iso. It did installed without swapped hard till the end with no error(grahicic mode). But it also flash BSOD next run like my own earlier installs. No minidump. Standard mode is ok. Tried 2003 ent. trial version. Std mode also ran. Can see Standard mode and multi PC ACPI under CPU entry at the same time. BSOD when changed to ACPI and see next message as IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL. bluescreenview pointed to Ntoskrnl error. XP2003 was tried from installed on ivy system than swap to Ryzen. Will try burn ISO sometime later. Cedar |
| #1099 | diderius6 | Also all USB 2.0 USB 3.0 USB 3.1 USB 3.2 slots work now on the nice board asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 under XP SP3, just together with Ryzen 3700x Dietmar |
| #1100 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Can you please upload the whole package, with the unmodded driver for AMD USB? I notice, that for the Asmedia USB there are 2 different xhci.sys files for Intel and AMD. On Intel boards we have to mod the other one Dietmar |
| #1101 | IntiMD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1100 Not him, but if you are talking about the AMD64 and the IA64 folders, they're just different instruction sets - x64 (otherwise known as AMD64, x86-64) and the Intel Itanium architecture (otherwise known as IA-64, isn't in mainstream anymore and retired in 2021) respectively. |
| #1102 | diderius6 | ⇗ @IntiMD I mean the AMD driver (AMD64 64 bit, just name for AMD) for XP and the i386 name for Intel for XP 32 bit. Until now I do not have the this whole package of unmodded drivers. With the Asmedia driver I have some success today, but I think this are the most difficult drivers of all USB, so may be AMD or VIA is much easier to mod and to take the oldest version of them which works for XP 32 bit Dietmar |
| #1103 | IntiMD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1102 Like i said before, AMD64 is one of the names for the x86-64 (64-bit) arch, while i386 is one of the names of the x86 (32-bit) arch. The folders are depending on the OS bitness. The ASMedia drivers include both 32 and 64-bit builds of the drivers and since the usb 3.0 drivers should be targetted for XP 32-bit, the driverfiles in the i386 folder need to be modified. |
| #1104 | diderius6 | ⇗ @IntiMD Of course you are right, it was my mistake. There is no difference between AMD 32 bit and Intel 32 bit, driver is always in i386 folder Dietmar PS: The generic AMD driver here works also for the Asmedia 3.1 USB under XP 32 bit. But it does not work for Intel chipset USB 3.0 which looks strange to me, I dont understand why not. I make new test with the VIA 3.0 driver for Mod. |
| #1105 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Very good! Use the same name to replace the system itself usb driver, maybe we can make a generic usb driver replace the system inside usb driver. |
| #1106 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar was IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL. BSOD with my ISO, or server 2003 ISO? |
| #1107 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Try this new, not have stor.sys. KEY: xiaofengmod ⇗ https://yadi.sk/d/8MtPIJxFYoBAbQ |
| #1108 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I test the new driver on Intel evga z390 dark board, for the USB 3.0 from Intel chipset. The same happens as before, during install of this driver the compi gets frozen Dietmar PS: May be, in this case a modded VIA USB 3.0 driver would be the better choice. EDIT: Your new AMD driver for XP has also the problem, that usbstor.sys again does not start (gives unknow device). So, until now we have only the generic USB driver for XP, where I changed amdstor.sys against usbstor.sys. This one works everywhere, only for INTEL chipset USB and XP not, this is so strange. EDIT2: So strange things happen with usb3 driver for Intel chipset: The xhci.sys file is NOT copied correct to windows\system32\drivers (something like a sceleton of this xhci.sys appears there) and even when you put the whole file xhci.sys there into by hand, on next boot it is gone there!!! I never saw anything like this before in XP. I set start=0 and Group=System Reserved for all USB files which starts them very early, no chance of version missmatch or something like, because at this very early bootstage all will be loaded. Crazy, I can see, that the driver xhci.sys is loaded very early together with usbstor.sys, but then again xhci.sys is deleted(!). May be because of this soso strange thing, the hub3.sys driver can not install(!) and start Dietmar |
| #1109 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Maybe we can use intel itself USB driver for xp to modify. |
| #1110 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong The problem in to use Intel driver for USB is, that there are none for XP with USB 3.0. For Win7 32 bit they exist, but there are dependencies in drivers to ntoskrnl, that XP does not fullfill. The only chance in this is, that somebody has the source code for this drivers and compiles it for win server 2003 32 bit Dietmar |
| #1111 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 I think NEC will best than other. ⇗ https://downloadcenter.intel.com/zh-cn/d...ctronics-USB3-0- |
| #1112 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I just see, that the VIA xhci driver can be replaced by the driver from Asmedia. But the Intel chipset for USB 3.0 does not work with modded Asmedia or Via driver Dietmar PS: So, NEC (now Renesas) may be the better choice for generic USB 3.0 for XP for Intel chipset. |
| #1113 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 If you use IDA to open the xhci.sys ,you will find almost all usb drivers will have a ven ID 1033, VEN_1033 meant NEC's ID. |
| #1114 | infuscomus | ⇗ @canonkong this doesn't work in virtualbox ⇗ https://www.zone62.com/media/jcm/og/8fc8461f672fdba2.png |
| #1115 | canonkong | ⇗ @infuscomus Some intel devices can not work well some parts using this driver. I think we need to find a better one to modify to support XP. |
| #1116 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong For Intel with x390 chipset with modded *.inf for xhci.sys comes message code 10, driver (xhci from Nec) does not start Dietmar |
| #1117 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I just found with IDA pro, that there is a hardcoded ID 1033 check and 194x in the NEC driver xhci.sys and so, suddently BIG chances for success with Intel Dietmar |
| #1118 | canonkong | diderius6 Some drivers just modify the ID identify area is not enough. Like intel usb3.1 driver, I modified few parts to make it work. If you know DebugView ,Debuggers , OllyDbg . You can use them to find out where is the block. |
| #1119 | diderius6 | PAGE:0003420B mov eax, 1033h PAGE:00034210 cmp [ebp-11Ch], ax PAGE:00034217 jnz short loc_34239 PAGE:00034219 mov eax, 194h PAGE:0003421E cmp [ebp-11Ah], ax PAGE:00034225 jnz short loc_34239 PAGE:00034227 cmp byte ptr [ebp-114h], 4 PAGE:0003422E jnz short loc_34239 PAGE:00034230 mov byte ptr [ebx+192h], 1 PAGE:00034237 jmp short loc_34240 |
| #1120 | diderius6 | Hack to PAGE:0003420B mov eax, 1033h PAGE:00034210 cmp [ebp-11Ch], ax PAGE:00034217 jnz short $+2 PAGE:00034219 mov eax, 194h PAGE:0003421E cmp [ebp-11Ah], ax PAGE:00034225 jnz short $+2 PAGE:00034227 cmp byte ptr [ebp-114h], 4 PAGE:0003422E jnz short $+2 PAGE:00034230 mov byte ptr [ebx+192h], 1 PAGE:00034237 jmp short loc_34240 Now I get code 39 Dietmar |
| #1121 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Not right, you can compare my modified intel USB driver and the original driver, you will find what I had did. jnz=>jmp ⇗ [Solution] Win7 drivers for USB 3.0/3.1 Controllers of new Intel chipset systems |
| #1122 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus "IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL" was from 2003. From bluescreenview, it pointed to Ntoskrnl error. I also tried ACPI 64 bit on XP64. the screen instantly BSOD and reboot immediately on normal or safe mode, so I couldn't see what message was. Cedar |
| #1123 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I tried this also, does not work for Nec USB 3.0 driver on Intel USB 3.0 on chipset from z390 Dietmar |
| #1124 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar ACPI for XP64 will need a patched ACPI driver and XP64 is not well supported, best to use Win7 64 any luck installing with my ISO? |
| #1125 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus The acpi64bit was from diderius6 posted earlier. As it was an early version, so I can't expect too much. Your iso can installed from burnt disc, Like my other burnt discs, It will BSOD in multi acpi both std or safe mode too when reboot. But If installed on my Ivy system. and then swap HD to Ryzen board. I think it can boot in safe mode, like my other trials. PS. I think diderius6 's new usb3.2 driver can work on your iso, but not on my own XP installation after many BSODs on usbport.sys trials. Cedar |
| #1126 | infuscomus | ⇗ @cedar did you manage to get multiprocessor ACPI PC working? or did you get a BSOD? |
| #1127 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar Until now we dont have a good acpi.sys for XP 64 bit, which works on a lot of newer mainboards, Dietmar |
| #1128 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus In safe mode, multiprocessor ACPI PC seems fine. I can install other drivers. After exiting safe mode. I may or may not be able to get back to safe mode if XP installed through optical Sata drive. I remember probably 2 weeks or more ago, I can repeatly go back to safe mode with multiprocessor ACPI PC. Out side safe mode, BSOD. I just upated 2003 from SP0 to Sp1, and SP2. Will try if they work later? Cedar |
| #1129 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 Any chance to work on XP 64 ACPI?. I realize too XP64 has no Standard mode!. Cedar |
| #1130 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus Wow. SP2 for 2003 instead of SP0 works. I am in Multi PC ACPI mode now. Edit: And it is from swap drive method. Edit2: Now I can use similar way on XP. Different SPs may make or break things. Edit3: Even SP1 works. Cedar |
| #1131 | diderius6 | I found NEC USB3.0 driver from 10 January 2010 vers. 1.0.19.0. This driver is really very simple structurated. With this I make new try using Windbg for XP SP3 Intel chipset 3.0 driver Dietmar EDIT: I have now NEC driver USB 3.0 from June 2009 for XP, Vista (means before Win7), vers 1.0.1.0. |
| #1132 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 If you use IDA7.0 to open the *.sys, than press F5, it will converting to C language, maybe some one can use it to recompile. ⇗ https://github.com/microsoft/Windows-driver-samples |
| #1133 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong This is really a nice feature, but my Ida Pro is from 2004 :)) Dietmar PS: Starting from autumn 2009, NEC makes USB 3.0 drivers also for Win2000 and NT4 . |
| #1134 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you upload to station-drivers for driver archiving? If we are lucky, it might even work for windows 98 assuming all function requirements are met by ntkern.vxd |
| #1135 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Here it is. The xhci.sys driver is loaded in XP as I can see but the hub.sys not. So, the problem with DEV_&VEN_ is gone, but something is wrong with the hub Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1136 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 If the xhci.sys is loaded but the hub.sys not. It meant that the XHCI.sys need to fix somewhere. HUB is follow to XHCI. |
| #1137 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @canonkong I noticed with the earlier modified AMD USB 3.0 drivers there was a FileSize error in the sys files ⇗ maybe this was causing problems? i fixed them or maybe its nothing, i dont know infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #1138 | canonkong | ⇗ @infuscomus I signed the driver use driving signature tool, it can automatic checksum, so I don't have noticed FileSize error. |
| #1139 | diderius6 | Now I get usbstor.sys usbd.sys xhci.sys hub3.sys loaded very early (start 0, Group System Reserved) but still yellow questionmark for USB 3.0 xhci and no hub3 in device manager Dietmar PS: I corrected yesterday the above size error. It does not change anything. |
| #1140 | diderius6 | There is only one small step, to make the very first NEC driver from June 2009 make to work for Intel chipset USB3 It looks like the "IRP_MN_START_DEVICE" failed and this can be the fault of hub3.sys because Child 0000000000. Dietmar 0: kd> !DevNode 0x8a47f250 |
| #1141 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Use IDA to fix hub.sys, maybe will work. |
| #1142 | infuscomus | If we can figure out how to backport KMDF 1.13 to XP then we could use the generic Microsoft driver seems like a bit of a challenge though |
| #1143 | diderius6 | This is really strange: The very first NEC USB 3.0 driver is started in legacy mode, but fails for the Intel chipset USB 3.0. This makes me sure, that the problem is in xhci.sys (here name nusb3xhc, together with Intel) and not in hub3.sys Dietmar 0: kd> !devnode 0 1 nusb3xhc |
| #1144 | diderius6 | @ infuscomus There is KMDF for Vista, I think also with an example driver for USB Dietmar docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/usbcon/tutorial--write-your-first-usb-client-driver--kmdf- |
| #1145 | diderius6 | May be we need WDFLDR.SYS (from Vista-Longhorn5048, Vista, Win7) all 32 bit for XP for Intel USB Dietmar PS:Intel USB 3 drivers need WDFLDR.SYS (Kernel Mode Driver Framework LOADER) which doesn't exist on XP. XP drivers require coinstaller WdfCoInstaller01009.dll (included with driver, it installs wdfldr.sys and wdf01000.sys) and separate usbd.sys. I install the Microsoft Kernel Mode Driver Framework runtime 'Microsoft Kernel-Mode Driver Framework Install-v1.9-Win2k-WinXP-Win2k3.exe' extracted from WdfCoinstaller01009.dll which is the co-installer for KMDF 1.9. This drivers here have all only dependecies for XP! EDIT: This brings me to the idea, to install the very first USB driver from NEC on Longhorn 5048 for Intel chipset USB3.0. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1146 | infuscomus | Someone tried to make an xhci driver for ReactOS ⇗ https://reactos.org/blogs/gsoc-xhci-final-submission ⇗ https://github.com/reactos/reactos/tree/...ers/usb/usbxhci |
| #1147 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus This person from reactos has the problem with xhci.sys for USB 3.0, that USBSTOR.sys is not loaded but he does not understand this. Because of this comes "unknown device". Even I do not know, if this will work for Intel USB chipset, because Intel makes now use of KMDF driver model for all their USB. We have KMDF 1.9 (from Win7) for XP , the Microsoft Kernel-Mode Driver Framework Install-v1.9-Win2k-WinXP-Win2k3.exe above installs with all registry entries WDFLDR.SYS and wdf01000.sys in XP SP3 32 bit, I have tested. Now we can use the *.inf from Win7 for USB from ⇗ @canonkong with xhci.sys and usbhub3.sys with dependencies only for XP and voila, there is USB on XP for all Intel chipsets. A first try can be done with Vista and the modded USB drivers for Win7 from ⇗ @canonkong, if Vista fullfill all the dependencies Dietmar PS: Here is the installer for KMDF 1.9 for Vista 32 bit. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1148 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Is it possible to Import table dynamic patch and point the Win10-specific import API to wrapper. Like NDIS-Wrapper. Some hackers told me that we can port win10's USB driver to win7, but I think even the world's top hackers don't have this ability. |
| #1149 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I think, for to make to work Intel chipset USB under XP, it is now just enough, to cancel the not from XP fullfilled dependencies from your USB drivers for Win7 Dietmar |
| #1150 | diderius6 | This VIA USB3 is for XP, Vista and Win7. It has the installer for KMDF 1.9 for each of them integrated and fullfills all dependencies for XP. Any generic USB 3.0 driver for XP SP3 32bit Intel chipset should look very similar to this one Dietmar PS: I installed all versions for XP, Vista, Win7, but no one works for XP for Intel chipset USB, strange.. EDIT: The VEN_1106&DEV_3432 seems to be hardwired in xhcdrv.sys. ⇗ @canonkong can you please make a try to mod this one for generic? EDIT2: CM_PROB_FAILED_ADD CM_PROB_FAILED_ADD A driver's attempt to add a device failed. Error Code 31 Display Message (Windows 2000 and later versions of Windows) "This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device. (Code 31)" Recommended Resolution (Windows 2000 and later versions of Windows) Update the device driver. Starting with Windows XP, this problem can only occur if the driver's AddDevice routine fails. May be this is because of hardwired VEN_&DEV_. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1151 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @canonkong Fresco logic driver also uses KMDF 1.9 - so it might be an option infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #1152 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The file fresco-usb3-v3.6.9.0.7z.zip cant be downloaded correct, has error Dietmar EDIT: Correction, newest winrar works for to unpack this file. |
| #1153 | diderius6 | Fresco driver is loaded in XP for Intel chipset USB30, but does not start. The reason, why it does not start can also be the fault of the hub3.sys there Dietmar 0: kd> !DevNode 0x8a475a58 |
| #1154 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you manually install the hub? |
| #1155 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus This is not possible. First has always the main driver xhci.sys to be loaded and only if this is ok, hub3.sys asks for driver. Even if from a working USB3 installation you delete the registry entries for xhci.sys, the before working hub3.sys is also not loaded any longer Dietmar PS: One can make a try vice versa, if a working USB3 driver for Intel chipset also works on normal USB3, because until now the difference between them is unclear. |
| #1156 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 can you go back to our earlier generic amd usb 3.0 driver and try to debug what causes it to fail when in virtualbox? |
| #1157 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I make a check, which driver starts and which not: It is possible to start xhci.sys without hub3.sys but not hub3.sys without xhci.sys. So, in the case with virtualbox, something went wrong with hub3.sys. And this also means, all our tries with xhci.sys for USB3 for Intel chipsets fail because of xhci.sys. Take a look in device manager, what kind the error message is there. XP tells you, if something is wrong with entries in registry for hub3.sys or with the driver itself Dietmar |
| #1158 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus "can you go back to our earlier generic amd usb 3.0 driver and try to debug what causes it to fail when in virtualbox?" On which compi runs virtualbox, AMD or with Intel chipset Dietmar |
| #1159 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Can you please convert Assembler file to C with Ida Pro 7 from xhci for Win7 from post 1150 and also xhci from original driver for Intel chipset Win7 and look, if there is a major difference Dietmar |
| #1160 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @canonkong I think I know what the problem is - the hub3.sys file has not been linked to the usb 3.0 hub as it's driver ⇗ we will need to either fix amdxhci.inf to install the hub driver properly or find/write a proper amdhub3.inf ⇗ @canonkong do you have the original unmodified amd usb 3 driver you used? |
| #1161 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 In fact, it's very difficult for me because I don't know any assembly language or programming language. What I can do is just use IDA to modify some drivers and signature. If we can find out the breakpoints, maybe we can use IDA to Skip it. |
| #1162 | canonkong | ⇗ @infuscomus The original driver 2.0.0.48 only can work for 64bit system. |
| #1163 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Can you use Ida Pro for to translate those 2 Win7 32 bit xhci.sys drivers to C language? If yes, you can send them to me dietmar.stoelting@t-online.de and I compare them Dietmar |
| #1164 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Which two xhci.sys files? I will send it to you later. |
| #1165 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @canonkong a manual install of the usb 3.0 hub worked in virtualbox ⇗ so, I think all we need to do is fix a problem in amdxhci.inf |
| #1166 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Is it USB 3 on Intel chipset? Or is it an AMD board Dietmar |
| #1167 | canonkong | ⇗ @infuscomus This driver can work with virtual box, but cant work on real machine. |
| #1168 | infuscomus | whoops! I spoke too soon ⇗ |
| #1169 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Here are the 2 Win7 32 bit xhci files for USB3, one from VIA and the one from you Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1170 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Too many entries need to be converted! I think download IDA PRO 7.2 will more faster and easily. |
| #1171 | diderius6 | I renamed the last xhci for XP from ⇗ @canonkong (post 1107) as asmxhci.sys and integrate the values to registry by hand (no hub3.sys at all). Now, for the first time no crash and the driver "asmxhci.sys" is loaded and deleted after but message via windbg Code 28 (CM_PROB_FAILED_INSTALL) This looks like, if something with my handmade registry entries is wrong or the driver "asmxhci.sys" looks for something like codriver Dietmar |
| #1172 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1162 ⇗ @canonkong how did you manage to make it work for 32bit system? |
| #1173 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I noticed that few days ago. So I think, canonkong is not so blind (as we..) Dietmar |
| #1174 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I make a try with the last driver xhci for XP (post 1107) from ⇗ @canonkong in KMDF 1.9 clothes, but then the compi does not start, hangs running blue mark in the beginning of boot stopped and Windbg tells nothing, "break" command does not work and no BSOD Dietmar |
| #1175 | diderius6 | With little help from Ida Pro, I just noticed, that the last AMD file for XP 32 bit from canonkong vers. 2.0.0.68 is from ETRON. Hihi, may be, now all other is easy. This Etron driver has VEN_8086&DEV_7023. This I will change against my USB3 with VEN_8086&DEV_A2AF and then we will see Dietmar EDIT: The Etron USB3.0 driver from 2009 works for nearly all USB but not for Intel USB chipset. |
| #1176 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I can only suggest going through all the other USB 3 drivers from other manufacturers and see if one of them works for intel ⇗ USB 3.0/3.1 Drivers (original and modded) |
| #1177 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @infuscomus I had tested all usb drivers yesterday. only AMD usb driver 2.0.0.48 and intel usb drivers can work for all usb devices. but they cant work perfect on X570 mainboards(install/uninstall the USB driver if without AMD chips drivers will BSOD) ASMedia VIA NEC Erron and most of USB drivers can only work for few devices, and some of them only can work for xhci but hub can not work. |
| #1178 | diderius6 | The Fresco fresco-usb3-v3.6.9.0 (it is for Win7 with KMDF 1.9) driver is "best" until now for Intel USB3 chipset for XP SP3, but failed to start with code 10, even I changed in driver VEN_&DEV_ to my individual values. By the way I noticed, that I get code 39, when checksum etc. of the driver was not correct. With PEmaker 0.82 from Blackwingcat I corrected this Dietmar 0: kd> !DevNode 0x8a475a58 |
| #1179 | infuscomus | ⇗ @canonkong wasn't your modified generic USB 3 driver from earlier an Etron driver? |
| #1180 | canonkong | ⇗ @infuscomus Etron can not work for intel devices on real machine, but can work on VM... |
| #1181 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @infuscomus Test it. ⇗ https://yadi.sk/d/JsPRQ94R0TE3XQ |
| #1182 | infuscomus | ⇗ @canonkong This driver calls functions from ntoskrnl that are not available in XP |
| #1183 | canonkong | ⇗ @infuscomus I uploaded it incorrectly, I will upload a new one soon. |
| #1184 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 I tested the Fresco USB drivers, xhci had installed and work, but the hub failed. |
| #1185 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Can you please upload your version of the Fresco USB driver? Any help is welcome Dietmar PS: You can just use hub from other USB driver. |
| #1186 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 No problem, I will send you when I after work. You can use IDA to open it, you will find i it has other devices ID from intel,NEC,Etron,ASMedia,ect |
| #1187 | diderius6 | I just noticed, that the Fresco USB3 driver has extra entries in registry. None of them is set for my Intel USB 3.0 with VEN_8086&DEV_A2AF. How to come to this values? May be, a Win7 install will help via original Intel USB3.0 drivers and copy this values one by one to the registry of XP Dietmar Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 |
| #1188 | diderius6 | Win7 tells also code 10 for Fresco driver. I am sure, that this can be hacked in xhci.sys driver. Here is registry entry from Win7, not all are zero(!). Dietmar Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 |
| #1189 | diderius6 | And here come the registry entries for the Intel xhci and hub3 entry (they all work). May be the 3 entries are just, what ⇗ @canonkong missed for his hub via Fresco Dietmar xhci: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 hub3: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 |
| #1190 | diderius6 | Found this on the way, from Fresco for XP USB3 Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1191 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 All usb drivers origenal package. ⇗ https://yadi.sk/d/5jkmVZBjNgNZMw |
| #1192 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Thank you. What do you think, which driver has best chances for to work for XP USB3 for Intel chipset USB Dietmar |
| #1193 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I think either the texas instruments driver or the amd 3.1 driver I'm basing my guess on the size in kb of the controller driver compared to intels driver |
| #1194 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I wonder, how ⇗ @canonkong makes a 32 bit version of the USB3 xhci and hub driver vers. 2.0.0.0068 from AMD. Because there is only a 64 bit version of this driver from AMD on the market, he needs the sourcecode for this driver for to compile it for 32 bit. If I am right, we have this driver, but something went wrong during compiling, Dietmar PS: Until now, we do not know, which makes the difference between Intel USB3 and all USB3 from other manufactures. I think, may be it is the KMDF driver concept but VIA and Fresco have KMDF also. Texas instruments I dont know. docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/usbcon/tutorial--write-your-first-usb-client-driver--kmdf- |
| #1195 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @infuscomus For win7 64bit, AMD Zeppelin USB driver is the best one, it can support all usb devices just add the device ID into the *.inf and don't need to modify the *sys. Intel 1.0.10.255/ 5.0.4.43/ 15.2.30.13/ 17.2.70.3 are also can support all usb devices just add the device ID into the *.inf but need to modify the *sys. And it can support 32/64bit. Fresco VIA NEC can only work for the XHCI, but the hub can not work. As my platform can not support XP, so I can only test on VM, the amd USB driver can support nearly all usb devices but Intel can not work on real machines. |
| #1196 | diderius6 | I modified the xhci.sys and
*.inf for Intel chipset USB3.0 under XP as good as I can for the Texas
Instrument USB 3.0 driver for Win 7 DriverVer=04/14/2016, 1.16.6.0. I
use PEmaker 0.82 for to correct the size and the checksum. Compi tries 4 times to install it, as you can see with Windbg. The message is about a filtered list, DNF_RESOURCE_REQUIREMENTS_NEED_FILTERED (0x00000200) The device's resource requirements list is a filtered list. so may be only in the extra settings in this special xhci.sys driver is wrong for XP Dietmar PS: KMDF driver has started correct in XP. EDIT: On WIN7 the Texas driver for Intel chipset USB 3.0 is also not loaded, showes the same code 31 as for XP. 0: kd> !DevNode 0x8a475a58 diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1197 | diderius6 | So, only hope at the moment for USB 3.0 under XP for Intel chipset is, that somebody has the sourcecode for the generic Microsoft USB 3.0 drivers from Win8 and just compiles it for Win2003 32 bit Dietmar |
| #1198 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 do you know how to change the value of a string when using a disassembler? |
| #1199 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus All string values are coded as Hexnumbers (unicode), each separated with "." => 00 "1" => 31 "2"=> 32 ... "A" => 41 "B" => 42 ... Dietmar ⇗ https://unicode-table.com/de/ |
| #1200 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 So I made an attempt to modify AMD driver 1.0.5.3 for intel - can you please test for yourself? please add your HWID to the INF yourself since i was not sure which HWID you have hub driver might need an INF mod too, I'm not sure edit: alt version in case first one crashes infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #1201 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Waaaaooooohhhhhhhh , for the very first time the xhci.sys controller starts for Intel chipset USB 3.0What a great work! Hub does not start until now but this can be, because in xhciMod.sys you changed the name for the Hub and so XP looks in hub.inf for a name, which now not exist. I test this. But this is really a BIG day for Windows XP!!! Open Diff file with Browser. 0: kd> !DevNode 0x8a475a58 diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1202 | diderius6 | I edit amdhub31.inf, but now amdhub31.sys shows in Device Manager code 29 Code 29 - This Device Is Disabled Because the Firmware of the Device Did Not Give It the Required Resources |
| #1203 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus This is, what Windbg tells about amdhub31.sys Such a code 29 I have never seen before Dietmar 0: kd> !DevNode 0x884ae530 |
| #1204 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I noticed with Ida Pro, that in the amdhub31.sys is still reference to AMDHUB31 AmdUsb3_1Root which you renamed in amdxhc31.sys. Why did you rename them? And I noticed, that .rdata:000628A8 unicode 0, <AMDROOT_HUB31&VID040E&PID0100&VER00010000000>which may be too special to give explicit VID_&PID_ here for the Hub from MCCI. Mine is for example VID8086&PIDA2AF Dietmar |
| #1205 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I take a look at your xhci driver and mod it new with minimal changes for my USB device VEN_8086&DEV_A2AF. My modded xhci.driver works also. I dont change anything in the names of AMD or USB there. So, I can use the unmodded *.inf file for the also unmodded Hub.sys But again the message code 29 appears, seems to be a serious problem, last bastion^^ from Intel against USB3 hack for XP Dietmar PS: May be it is just, that we need an USB 3.0 hub. This one with code 29 is USB 3.1, but the hardware from Intel chipset is in real only USB 3.0. ⇗
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| #1206 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 You can use the hub driver from AMD zeppelin USB driver 2.0.0.48/2.0.0.68. |
| #1207 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Nice idea, I just tested, but gives the same code 29. Hm, all the different Hub drivers give this code 29, so something went wrong Dietmar |
| #1208 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 I use 2.0.0.48 hub, but code 10. EDIT: And I found that your mod xhci not fully change, you need to replace all 22 10 00 00 to 86 80 00 00, and 39 4B 00 00 to your dev ID. |
| #1209 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @canonkong I'm just guessing, but maybe we need that intel switch driver for the hub to work? edit: usb power settings? maybe hub is asleep? |
| #1210 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus ⇗ @canonkong I also think, that may be intel switch has a meaning. Does somebody know, how and for what this is good? We can integrate this driver by hand with its registry entries. What I will try today: 1.) Look about all new registry entries from Win7 32 bit for exact this driver from AMD 1.0.5.3. For this I will set up a new Win7 with minimal environment, copy registry and check after install of this driver with "Beyond Compare 2" those 2 registries for all differences. 2.) I make by hand entries in registry in "CriticalDeviceDatabase" in XP for this USB device. This will be a hard job, Dietmar PS: Any idea is welcome. What really does code 29 mean for a driver? |
| #1211 | canonkong | @ diderius6 You can try this one. 8086_A2AF_USB_XP_32BIT_TEST ⇗ https://yadi.sk/d/DVZl98FGYDFgSw EDIT: I test it for my 3700x on win7, it is working, but intel A2AF need test. ⇗ ⇗ http://uploadoss.smxdiy.com/forum/201908...8a1rr14vze5.jpg |
| #1212 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Nice driver also, asmxhci.sys starts correct my A2AF USB 3.0 controller, but Hub gives again code 29. Interesting, that there are more than 1 usb driver, which works for Intel chipsets Dietmar |
| #1213 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Error Code 29 Display Message "This device is disabled because the firmware of the device did not give it the required resources. (Code 29)" Recommended Resolution Enable the device in the BIOS. ⇗ https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows...rdware-disabled |
| #1214 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus All what can be enabled in Bios is enabled. And under Win7 this USB 3.0 device with A2AF works Dietmar PS: I think, CriticalDeviceDatabase can make this symptoms (code 29) also, I know from USB2.0 and from ahci.sys, the Intel driver for harddisks has entries there also. |
| #1215 | diderius6 | Ha, I understand, what is going on. Look at the picture, no energy management can be seen (on top from devicemanager). For to safe energy, the crazy XP shuts this USB device off, and now no switch there to start it again Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #1216 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 try disabling USB power savings in control panel, see if it turns on |
| #1217 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus In XP, there is no such switch. Only for each hub itself. All hubs, that I tested show code 29. I am quite sure, that XP switched this hub off. And nothing I know, how to switch it on again. I succeed to install the Intel switch. It installs without problems (via hardware manager) and gives a pci device in device manager. But even if this could enable power on for Intel hubs, it does not work in XP Dietmar |
| #1218 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 i meant something like this - ⇗ http://tools.thermofisher.com/content/sf...onnectivity.pdf |
| #1219 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I found this HKR,,WdkSelectiveSuspendEnable, 0x10001, 0 Dietmar EDIT: Again code 29. So may be, something other stopps HUB in last moment from start. For this Hub is valid: PDCAP_D0_SUPPORTED PDCAP_D3_SUPPORTED PDCAP_WAKE_FROM_D3_SUPPORTED Energy state now = D3 (off) |
| #1220 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 try plugging in a powered USB hub - ⇗ https://www.ebay.de/itm/USB-7-Port-HUB-P...lC_klgSxX3qtOfg I had this problem earlier with my USB 2.0 card and the powered hub fixed it The following contents have been linked to this post: |
| #1221 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Nice idea, I have powered USB hub and I will test. First I thought, that may be this USB hub does not have the possibility to save power (D3 <=> D0) like the VIA hub3.0. But then I noticed, that I can also install the normal Asmedia USB 3.1 USB hub with this new driver and there this one shows powermanagment. So, indeed this USB Hub3.0 for Intel chipset is not awaken frome sleep D0 => D3. Only question is, why not Dietmar Dietmar |
| #1222 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6 As I was suspecting, the issue lies in the ACPI's DSDT table. The DSDT table from Z390 chipsets do not have many custom methods and memory operations for integrated devices. But for the Z370, there are many operations for the same integrated devices. Just search for Device (XHC) and see the differences. Remove all instructions from the Z370' DSDT and leave it as close as possible as the Z390's. After doing this, many host drivers are now loaded successfully. |
| #1223 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Looking at ASMedia 1.16.56.1 and AMD 1.0.5.3 USB 3.1 drivers it looks to me like the code for both these drivers is identical and they just swapped the HWIDs |
| #1224 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I connected a powered USB 3.0 hub, but no reaction, USB 3.0 from Intel chipset still sleeps with code 29, grrr.. I make a test, if this can be indeed the fault of the DSDT table as recommend from ⇗ @daniel_k . For this, I make a new setup, compi first in "ACPI Multiprocessor" and then also at the same time as "Standard PC" for XP. Hm, on Acpi multiprocessor I get now also for the working xhci driver code 10, device cannot start. But when I switch to the "Standard PC", suddently I can install the same USB xhci driver for the Intel chipset without any error. But then the Intel chipset USB hub shows also code 29, D3 powerstate =off, not awake. I know, that for "ACPI Multiprocessor" and for "Standard PC" are two, absolut independend sets of installation routines in every DSDT. This you can see, because all drivers are loaded new, when you switch from ACPI Multiprocessor to Standard PC. This works only in XP and only, it you first install the "ACPI Multiprocessor" and after "Standard PC" and not vice versa Dietmar PS: For me is now the question, how Win7 32 bit can survive with such a faulty DSDT table. |
| #1225 | diderius6 | After I read about xhc device in DSDT and problems with Acpi (crazy, so big problems with Apple compis with USB and ACPI) I am sure, that we need a mod in DSDT for USB3 an XP. It is not the fault of the drivers for USB3 for XP. Idea from ⇗ @daniel_k looks not bad on a second view. I know now, that he is right. So lets have a look at the DSDT from z390 for xhc and differences to z370. There is even a whole Bios for pur XP for the EVGA dark z390 board Dietmar PS: We have the asl.exe tool. With this, it is easy to mod DSDT without any risk for Bios, revertible whenever and as long as you want , no need to load again on every boot because it stays in registry, I tested. Nice tool. So, its much easier than for Hackintosh to modmodmod DSDT for XP. And I make a new try with the Fresco USB driver. |
| #1226 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1223 That's because AMD uses ASMedia core logic. |
| #1227 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1225 Unfortunately, still it is not that easy. For now, the "best" driver I've tried and easier to mod was the Renesas 3.0.23.0: both the Host controller and the Hub driver are properly loaded. However, it doesn't always work. I need to enable/disable the Host controller several times for it to work. When it does, works perfectly. I've attached the driver here. It is completely generic, removed all device checks. Did not try it on anything but the A2AF controller. Original driver is included for you to see what I did. |
| #1228 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6 What is your board with Intel USB 3.0 (A2AF)? I can mod the DSDT my way for you to see what I did here. |
| #1229 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k Asrock Fatal1ty z370 Gaming k6 with yes VEN_8086&DEV_A2AF USB3.0. With the asl.exe tool, you can load and unload the DSDT at any time to registry in XP SP3, Dietmar |
| #1230 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k On "Standard PC" the xhci installs and the hub starts:)) !!!Usbstor.sys does not start, this is exact the situation as on the AMD boards before Dietmar PS: Nice work! ⇗ ![]() |
| #1231 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6 , hopefully we're almost there! ![]() I've attached the DSDT tables of your board (and a reference Z390 from ASRock) for you to see what I did. Please note that I've also removed the following entry:
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| #1232 | diderius6 | Waaaaoooohhhhh, for the very first time XP and USB3 on Intel chipset !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!For this I set in Registry for usbstor Group System Reserved start 0 xhci Group System Reserved start 0 hub Group System Reserved start 0 Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #1233 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6, after doing these changes, does it work every time? Please try to restart Windows and check if it Always work. Here in ACPI mode without registry changes, only works after 7 ~ 10 enable / disable retries. |
| #1234 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k The registry changes are necessary Dietmar PS: I test test test now:))!!! EDIT: There is still a lot to do:)). With ACPI Multiprocessor xhci gives always code 10. With Standard PC not always usbstor.sys is loaded. |
| #1235 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k For AMD new cpu and X570, they have the USB controller ven1022_dev_149C. Do you know which is the best driver for them? Because they running on PCI-E 4.0, I tested some driver for them, AMD zeppelin usb driver 2.0.0.48 and Intel USB drivers can work for them, but will BSOD sometimes. ASMedia and AMD USB3.1 driver can work but the USB disks cant work. |
| #1236 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I just upload the new compiled, modded DSDT table for the board Asrock Fatal1ty z370 Gaming k6 via asl /loadtable dsdt.aml on working ACPI Multiprocessor XP for to look for behavior on Intel chipset USB3. Change of DSDT table has been done and works, because on next reboot I got BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxx, C0140004, yyy). with newest modded acpi.sys ver. 5048 Now I look with Windbg, at which place this BSOD in acpi.sys happens Dietmar BSOD 0xA5 (0x00000003, Parameter2, Parameter3, Parameter4): This error is defined as "ACPI failed must succeed method." This error occurs if ACPI cannot build a control method to reference the ACPI namespace. Other arguments for this error reference the ACPI object that was being run and the name of the control method. One greatly simplified explanation (which might not be completely accurate) is that the system cannot find a way to get to the ACPI tables that define the Plug and Play and Power Management capabilities of the system. |
| #1237 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 Intel ASL compiler also has it's own acpiexec command line tool which can also load DSDT from registry maybe try that? edit: or maybe i'm wrong about iasl being able to load a different DSDT |
| #1238 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The asl.exe Tool works perfect. I change the acpi5048.sys against my first modded original acpi.sys from XP SP3 (gives BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxx, C0140001, yyy) because now I get Symbols in Ida Pro and windbg shows me exact the line, where it crashes. May be, it is just an simple error in DSDT. The fantastic thing in the asl.exe tool is, that now I can start the same XP (with uploaded DSDT) as "Standard PC" and write simple command asl /loadtable -d dsdt.aml and the uploaded DSDT table is deleted in registry and XP now uses the unmodified DSDT table from Bios, meaning all is exact like before Dietmar EDIT: The changes in DSDT are a little bit to heavy^^. Now the COM1 port does not work any longer, meaning no windbg. But for me it is a good test, if really I can delete this DSDT (stays only in registry) with asl.exe and if all is good as before. In "Standard PC" the changes in DSDT do not help for better USB3. May be other tables need to be fixed too. EDIT2: I change by hand the adress of the COM port, now it works again with windbg. Still I use the modded DSDT for to see, what is going on: STACK_COMMAND: kb EDIT3: Hack in acpi.sys succeeds, but now I get BSOD 0xA5 (0x00000002,xxx,0x00000001,yyy) 0xA5(0x00000002, Parameter2, Parameter3, Parameter4): The "1" in this BSOD means: 1 : ACPI cannot convert the BIOS' resource list into the proper format. This probably represents a flaw in the BIOS' list encoding procedure. Ok, next hack^^ in acpi.sys. Works also, but gives now exotic BSOD 0xA5 (0x00010007,0x000000FF,0x0000000,0x0000000) EDIT4: I cant correct this error on acpi.sys, because 0xA5 (0x00010007,0x000000FF,0x0000000,0x0000000) is produced from hal.dll. Here I give up. Now I just delete with the nice asl.exe Tool the DSDT in registry via boot to "Standard PC" in commandline asl /loadtable -d dsdt.amlA message pops up, "registry data deleted" and on next boot I have the original DSDT table from Bios back. I think, this works only in XP, because Win Server 2003 looks only in Bios for DSDT table. Interesting, this boot for "ACPI Multiprocessor" I tested with my again 2 times modded acpi.sys and it starts. So, there are really errors in DSDT table (I think before mod also), Dietmar |
| #1239 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @infuscomus ⇗ @daniel_k I modifie some usb drivers for ryzen 3000 series and x570, but it just work for the mouse keyboard soundcard, but USB DISK do not work well, U disk has been identified and driven successfully, but there will be no U disk character or it will said prompt formatting on computer pages. Can you help me find what I need to midify with them. Here is the test driver: ⇗ https://yadi.sk/d/C6kvjsrdwE4MOw Error like this: ⇗ ⇗ http://uploadoss.smxdiy.com/forum/201908...8jp8okzmxth.png |
| #1240 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong With 64 bit I have no good intrumentarium here for to analyze. I would make a try in the registry entries as I write above for all start=0 Group System Reserved But editing registry can produce strange results Dietmar |
| #1241 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1238 Dietmar, on my Gigabyte Z370 Gaming 3 there are no side effects. Anyway, start the original table and delete small parts of the code, specially the OperationRegion blocks. |
| #1242 | daniel_k | ⇗ @canonkong, there are some additional checks, try the one I've attached. daniel_k has attached files to this post |
| #1243 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k It said Code 31, TI and other MICC driver has ID cheksum, we need change it. So we need use HxD find 50 00 43 00 49 EDIT: Finish ID cheksum, XHCI and HUB driver can work. But all usb mouse key board U disk are spotting "Generic USB Hub" and can not work. |
| #1244 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1243 Sorry, no more ideas, for now. |
| #1245 | daniel_k | ⇗ @canonkong, one last try. The string check I missed actually accepts wildcard, see what I did. ⇗ @diderius6, please try this TI driver in Standard PC mode, check if it works better than the Renesas. There are more issues with the ACPI tables, more specifically in many SSDT tables. For Z370, GUID 6B5C8FE5-70DD-4E17-BFF4-D21C26586EB3, you'll find:
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| #1246 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k It doesn't matter. I've found another better driver. VIA work very well on it. |
| #1247 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k I test it again. It also works for the mouse keyboard soundcard, but USB DISK do not work well, U disk has been identified and driven successfully, but there will be no U disk character or it will said prompt formatting on computer pages. |
| #1248 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k Thank you for the driver, I test in 5 min from now:)), before очень вкусный coffee. My tip for a good driver would be Fresco vers. 3.6.9.0 But with my Ida Pro from 2004 it is a very hard job to do any modding, so any help is welcome. Do you know, why the Asmedia and the AMD hub stays in sleeping mode D3? Can this hub been awaken with entries in xhci.inf? I do not find any documentation about it Dietmar |
| #1249 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k In "Standard PC" the Texas xhci.sys starts. The hub.sys stays in sleeping mode code 29. I see, that in its xhci.inf there is the possibility put to registry, that hub is allowed to sleep. May be it is enough to cancel this there. On "ACPI Multiprocessor" the Texas xhci.sys starts not, shows code 10 Dietmar PS: I am very interested, which tool you use after modding, to let the Build date, version etc. exact as that from original file. |
| #1250 | diderius6 | Oh, so much fun with XP !Now I have "ACPI Multiprocessor" "MPS" "Standard PC" on one XP SP3 32 bit installation and I can chose between them just on each boot. I see, that the NEC USB3 works also in MPS mode. This means, that USB3 does not work until now for "ACPI Multiprocessor" is only because of the faulty ACPI implementation in DSDT. One thing more I noticed: Only, when all 3 HUBs are started from NEC (for one xhci controller), USB 2.0 Hub USB 3.0 Hub USB 3.0 Root Hub usbstor.sys starts and "unknown device" is gone Dietmar PS: I make just small speed test with Sandisk Ultra USB stick: 314.1 Mbyte/s. EDIT: I solved the problem with "unknown device". For this I boot "MPS" in safe mode and there I can disable for the HUBs the possibility to save energy. Now they start always and we have stable USB 3.0 support for XP. EDIT2: Also my Samsung phone is recogniced correct at once. On other compis with USB there was so much trouble with it. All 8 ports work, can be mice, phone, usbstick 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, camera, USB hub all work at once and no power fall back. ⇗ ![]() |
| #1251 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1250 Can you please check the registry value name so we can add it to the INF file? Should be easy to spot that under the following registry tree:
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| #1252 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I think you mean this, it is just copied from working Registry, not any longer sleeping Hubs. Dietmar Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 |
| #1253 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I tried to set the Hubs back to sleep, set mark in each. But I do not succeed, they are still awake and with Beyond Compare2 I check both registry entries, they are 100% identic, which means, we dont know how to set Hubs to sleep and how to awake until now Dietmar EDIT: This values are all from the Texas xhci.inf but Nec takes them one by one. |
| #1254 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1253 I'm sure this occurs because ACPI is not enabled. Some device drivers are not written taking Standard PC mode in consideration. It expects ACPI to send power management status messages to the driver. Once we fix the ACPI tables this should not be needed anymore. Search for EnableSelectiveSuspend in the Registry. By the way, I sent you a Private Message regarding the tools I use. |
| #1255 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I found with value "1" WdkSelectiveSuspendEnable For the asmedia I found "40h" Dietmar PS: Of course I want to share:))! |
| #1256 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6, for the USB 3.0 controller to start, you only need to make the following change. Search for Device (XHC) and scroll down until you find Method (_PS0, 0, Serialized). Then replace this:
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| #1257 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @infuscomus ⇗ @daniel_k I have completed the USB driver test of the existing manufacturer. For AMD new platform, there are only two drivers that do not appear BSOD and unidentified U disk. One is Etron, another is VIA, and VIA is better than Etron. Modified AMD 2.0.0.48 and Intel USB drivers can work, but will bsod sometimes. Modified AMD 1.0.5.3, ASMedia and TI can work, but will unidentified U disk. Fresco only work for the XHCI, and the hub driver will bsod when I try to install it. NEC will BSOD when I try to install it. Maybe I've modified it incorrectly. |
| #1258 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong "Fresco only work for the XHCI, and the hub driver will bsod when I try to install it." Make a try to install in safe mod (F8) hub3.sys driver from Fresco new, onto another Hub from other vendor installed. And even it crashes, look what happens after reboot Dietmar |
| #1259 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k Thank you a lot, I just found in DSDT of my board. Does it mean, that all D3 states for all hubs are gone? Dietmar PS: I try tomorrow, now I am too tired. All the other drivers should work then also (because no D3 sleep) and maybe there is one, which says "hello world" even under ACPI. |
| #1260 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1259 Method _PS0 is processed during device initialization. This is what matters to us. No changes for all other power states. This just means you won't be getting error 10 anymore. But for the hub driver, I still haven't figured it out. Please try to debug this with both the Renesas and the TI driver. |
| #1261 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Can you help me test it? USB driver 32bit for 149C&A36D&A2AF ⇗ https://yadi.sk/d/zof4ujwHu8Lk6Q |
| #1262 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I test under XP "MPS" on my Asrock z370 K6 board (Intel). xhci and hub3 installs without problems. But a deeper look at them with windbg tells other: xhci starts but hub3 not. In the device manager from XP is written, that there are no resources needed for this hub3 device. I look at the xhci.inf. There is also the possibility, that this device sleeps. 0: kd> !DevNode 0x87f8f938 This tells XP, that this device hub3 does not want any driver, even they are installed! This is of course an error Dietmar PS: Yepp, I just found, that this device sleeps energy level=D3 (off). |
| #1263 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Hub driver need manual install again on Xp, it work well on win7, maybe 149C can work on Xp, but intel can not. |
| #1264 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I found the differences in registry for energy settings for Hubs. Open it with browser Dietmar PS: Left side: energie safe enabled (Hubs sleep allowed) right side energie safe disabled (Hubs always awake) First extract file and then rename it to rpt64952.htm diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1265 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Make a try to install in safe mod (F8) hub3.sys driver from Fresco new, onto another Hub from other vendor installed. I tried it, BSOD again. |
| #1266 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k Can you help me modifiy VIA USB 64bit driver as a generic usb driver? I found that your method is unique. I don't know any assembly language, so I usually use ID replace and jmp/nop to modify it. |
| #1267 | diderius6 | When I change my DSDT on the Asrock z370 K6 board with the post 1256 from ⇗ @daniel_k I got famous BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxx, C0140001, yyy). Hm, this looks strange to me, because before I thought, this BSOD happens only in the case of unknow words from Acpi 2.0. But with this hack in DSDT I only want to set xhc driver always awake Dietmar PS: May be ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD can help with this. On page 12, post 172 he wrote, that he overcomes to 99% this BSOD with custom acpi.sys. And it can be, that his acpi.sys is better than our one. EDIT: It can be, that the Device (XHC) becomes faulty, if I destroy in Method (_PS0, 0, Serialized) // _PS0: Power State 0 the settings and construction for this device xhc in this method. And so, no acpi.sys at all can help. May be it is enough, just to cancel this part about sleeping in the end from this method If (UWAB && ((D0D3 == Zero) || (^^XDCI.D0I3 == Zero)))EDIT: Strange, I got the same famous BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxx, C0140001, yyy) again, even the only thing I changed in DSDT is to delete the above 8 lines. |
| #1268 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 does it work even if you make no changes but load the table into registry anyway? I mean, dump the table from BIOS and then load it into registry using microsoft ASL? |
| #1269 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Exact the same idea I have had 5 min ago:)). So, I delete with the asl Tool the modded dsdt.raw, ok, XP starts after deleting with full ACPI Multiprocessor. Then I upload with the asl Tool the exact original working dsdt.raw which I extracted before from its real own working Bios. Now comes the good and bad news at the same time: The asl Tool fails with BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxx, C0140001, yyy) after uploading a working DSDT table for Acpi, brrr.. So, now again on Intel boards I have to use flashtools but for AMD boards this means flash always whole Bios Dietmar |
| #1270 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 one more idea to try perhaps microsoft ASL uses a different syntax to Intel ASL? take original unmodded dsdt.raw then disassemble with Microsoft ASL, change nothing, then reassemble with Microsoft ASL and upload to registry? |
| #1271 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I tried this. 4 Bytes are changed as I can see with Winhex, but BSOD is the same Dietmar |
| #1272 | diderius6 | Again I noticed, that the Tool Universal BIOS Backup ToolKit 2.0.exe reads also the Bios from Asrock k6 board faulty out. So be just careful, take an intensive look with UEFItool at your Bios before you flash it Dietmar PS: FPTW.exe from Intel seems to work ok. |
| #1273 | diderius6 | The mod of XHC gives BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxx, C0140001, yyy) also with real new modded DSDT in Bios and in "MPS" the network card i211 is listened but red cross in Task list as if no cable is connected Dietmar EDIT: hihi, what crazy things Bios Mod do: Before in win7 32 bit, always the networkcard does not work. But after this mod (kill sleep of xhc) networkcard works in Win7 for the very first time .So, the set to sleep affects also Win7, logo, because they use one and the same Bios! EDIT2: The Bios Mod with only deleting the last 8 lines in DSDT (for sleep XHC device, see above) gives also BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxx, C0140001, yyy) in ACPI XP. But now, in XP "MPS" networkcard works again. |
| #1274 | diderius6 | The FPTW.exe from Intel produce also faulty Bios. I upload DSDT.aml (which works for Acpi) in Bios with Uefi Tool. This Bios I compare with winhex with the original complete outread via FPTW.exe -D Winhex tells: 100% identic. But when I upload this Bios again, I got BSOD 0x000000A5 (0x00000003, xxx, C0140001, yyy). This simply means: The outread from FPTW.exe is different from original Bios. Now I trust only Epromer Dietmar EDIT: Waaoh, a compare with Beyond Compare 2 with the original 3.20 Bios from Download site of Asrock tells 127 sections are different. This is a lot, I know from experiments with Bios before. EDIT2: Hard job, to give Asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 full XP SP3 ACPI back, but now I have. Crazy Bios.. |
| #1275 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1266 ⇗ @canonkong Sure. |
| #1276 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1274 That is why I bought Gigabyte boards, completely unlocked descriptors, I can flash and mod without any worries using their own utility. Good luck, hope you can get it working soon to help me with the Hub driver issue. |
| #1277 | AddFun | My Ryzen 1600x X370 machine
is still getting 000000x7B issue. Tried half a dozen combinations of
using the modified ACPI.sys, nLite'ing proper files, and similar, no
difference. Tried F7 no ACPI, uni, multi, etc, etc, what have you. Just
burned my 6th nlite'd CD. Nope. In fact no difference, never get past
the reboot stage of WinXP setup where it goes straight into the 0x7b
BSOD. Like it did with stock WinXP SP3 install. What are you guys EXACTLY doing? What is your success rate with the modified files? (100%, 50%, random%?) Is there a XP ISO out there that has the files needed for the Ryzen platform that has repeatable success rate? It feels like this is not 100% repetable and there is a certain element of "luck" + random piece of hardware + random BIOS rev + random combo of ACPI/modded files = maybe it install XP is what the algorithm of WinXP on Ryzen platform seems to be. |
| #1278 | infuscomus | ⇗ @AddFun have you integrated the storahci driver we used? are you using a SATA or USB optical drive? |
| #1279 | AddFun | single SATA DVD drive with a single 120GB SATA disk and only PS/2 keyboard plugged in. Nothing else plugged to keep from any issues cropping up. Motherboard is Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5. I've even tried 4-5 different BIOS revisions over the last week or so before coming to this board/thread. No difference, always dead ends at the usual x7b BSOD after the first reboot. |
| #1280 | diderius6 | ⇗ @AddFun Before, XP with ACPI was impossible on Ryzen. Now, the situation is complete other. Use of the latest modded acpi.sys , the storahci driver together with my storport.sys (post 706) and result via nlite is for me at once 100% succeed install on 3 different AMD boards 350, 350, 570 Dietmar |
| #1281 | infuscomus | ⇗ @AddFun after first reboot? So I'm assuming XP textmode setup completes without a BSOD? that might be the storport.sys not copying itself across for 1st reboot issue we had earlier to fix - in txtsetup.sif look for [files.acpi] make it look like this [files.acpi] acpi.sys,4 acpiec.sys,4 oprghdlr.sys,4 storport.sys,4 then the storahci driver should work edit: If you have not yet grabbed the storahci driver it is here ¶ Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts (64) |
| #1282 | AddFun | Textmode always finishes, I had no problems with that even with my stock XP-SP3 disc when I tried XP on x370 first time two years ago. Let me check the txtsetup.sif as per your instructions. |
| #1283 | AddFun | Yeah, its in there. Everyone is using regular XP SP3 correct? |
| #1284 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I flash my new DSDT without the 8 lines for sleep of xhc to my new Bios (asl.exe for DSDT does again not work, BSOD) Now no BSOD but still on ACPI XP your Renesas/nec driver for xhci does not start, code 10 Dietmar EDIT: I did the whole mod of my DSDT for XHC but this gives BSOD 0x7B (only for ACPI, "MPS" starts). Even Win7 32 bit does not start, tells BSOD 0xA5(0x00000011,..) so its acpi related. To edit the DSDT for USB3 on Intel chipset with full ACPI on XP is really hard bread. |
| #1285 | infuscomus | ⇗ @AddFun Yep, using XP SP3 Do you know what the HWIDs of your storage controllers are? Do you mind uploading your txtsetup.sif so I can check it? |
| #1286 | diderius6 | ⇗ @AddFun "always dead ends at the usual x7b BSOD after the first reboot" I think acpi.sys and/or storport.sys have changed back to their original version, which gives BSOD 0x7B on first reboot Dietmar |
| #1287 | AddFun | I meant after textmode reboot, after it copies the files and attempts to continue the install. Not sysos reboot. |
| #1288 | diderius6 | ⇗ @AddFun Use nlite and life becomes easy Dietmar PS: Make sure, that your harddisk is aligned to 2048. This means, any use of the XP for formatting is forbidden. |
| #1289 | AddFun | PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_7901&SUBSYS_B0021458&REV_51 PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_43B5&SUBSYS_10621B21&REV_02 PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_5040&SUBSYS_152592D4&REV_01 PCI\VEN_126F&DEV_2262&REV_03 USB\VID_0BC2&PID_331A&REV_0911 Nothing exotic |
| #1290 | AddFun | Burning 7th nlite'd disc, diderius6. I don't think that's it. |
| #1291 | infuscomus | ⇗ @AddFun also, check driver.cab and replace the acpi.sys, storahci.sys and storport.sys in there use 7zip to extract driver.cab and cabpack 1.4 to recompress - ⇗ https://www.techspot.com/downloads/7104-cabpack.html |
| #1292 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ AddFun im Beitrag ¶ #1289 PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_7901&SUBSYS_B0021458&REV_51 - amd ahci - will need storahci PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_43B5&SUBSYS_10621B21&REV_02 - amd ahci - will need storahci PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_5040&SUBSYS_152592D4&REV_01 - Sonnet Tempo SATA Gen 1 PCI-X Adapter (i'm not sure if ahci) PCI\VEN_126F&DEV_2262&REV_03 - nvme? USB\VID_0BC2&PID_331A&REV_0911 - usb HDD? disconnect this |
| #1293 | diderius6 | Yessssaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I got it, USB3.2 USB3.1 USB3.0 USB 2.0 USB1.1 on Intel Chipset under XP 32 bit with full "ACPI Multiprocessor" Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #1294 | AddFun | Alright, tried it with some tweaks. I got this error in textmode install (pic #1 below) ⇗ ![]() but ignoring it the install continued and rebooted without the BSOD, it continued into graphical install where it installed all the drivers and then it rebooted again.... however I got a different BSOD this time (pic #2 below) ⇗ ![]() this is the farthest Ive gotten to date, any tips? |
| #1295 | diderius6 | ⇗ @AddFun I have seen this picture for myself. It happens, when the driver (here acpi.sys) is not copied correct to the CD. Copy acpi.sy_ in the installations folder i386 before you run nlite Dietmar PS: I do NOT integrate all the drivers in the *.cab file. This force me on every reboot to put them on harddisk by hand again, but it works. |
| #1296 | AddFun | Was copied, both in the cab that I repackaged and the i386 directory. Hmm. |
| #1297 | diderius6 | ⇗ @AddFun Have you used the last checksum corrected version of acpi.sys from @Infuscomus? Dietmar |
| #1298 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ AddFun im Beitrag ¶ #1294 ⇗ @AddFun for the 1st image, I solved this error by replacing the acpi.sys copy in driver.cab the 2nd error - A5 BSOD probably happens because the old unpatched acpi.sys was copied from driver.cab |
| #1299 | infuscomus | ⇗ @AddFun I just noticed, there is a copy of acpi.sys in SP3.cab, so that will need replacing too |
| #1300 | AddFun | Just went into the XP install remotely, and replaced the ACPI.sys with yours, 186kb vs 234kb. Tried booting and got the 7b BSOD, non-specific this time. Any ideas? |
| #1301 | AddFun | Technically, the XP system is
installed and configured since the graphical install completed on it's
end. Browsing the "\WINDOWS\system32\drivers" now and I can see proper
storport and storahci in there. Proper ACPI was copied too. Dunno guys... |
| #1302 | AddFun | Browsing from a different OS with the drive in question attached that is... |
| #1303 | diderius6 | ⇗ @AddFun The acpi.sys was replaced again with the old one. This gives exact this BSOD Dietmar |
| #1304 | infuscomus | ⇗ @AddFun So storahci.sys and storport.sys are present in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS but you are still getting 7B BSOD? |
| #1305 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1293 ⇗ @diderius6 What did you do? Tell me so I can try it! |
| #1306 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I use your brandnew driver:)). And I delete only everything in the Method (_PS0 for the device XHC in DSDT. I look for this at the other installations of Method (_PS0, 0, Serialized) // _PS0: Power State 0 how this is handled there. Even I succeed to disable also any energy savings for the hubs via the device manager of XP, still not always all USB devices are recogniced at boot. The "unknown device" message is gone, but happens sometimes just nothing. But when I delete the xhci device one time in devicemanger always at once all other is recogniced and works. Now it is not perfect, only about 90% because I also do not find the switch that the hubs are always awaken. There entries in DSDT marks them always as in D0, awaken Dietmar PS: Example for the hub from DSDT Device (RHUB) { Name (_ADR, Zero) // _ADR: Address Method (_PS0, 0, Serialized) // _PS0: Power State 0 { If (DVID == 0xFFFF) { Return (Zero) } If (CondRefOf (\_SB.PCI0.XHC.RHUB.PS0X)) { PS0X () } } |
| #1307 | infuscomus | ⇗ @daniel_k I tried your Renesas driver in virtualbox and got code 39 after installing |
| #1308 | AddFun | ACPI.sys is still the
modified one from here @ 234kb, sitting pretty in system32/drivers
directory, it hasn't been swapped back. The proper storahci.sys and
storport.sys are there too. 7b error just again. Went through my BIOS,
not a whole lot there. ACPI.sys: SHA1 -- 182eb4f6911818923965f938700546d87bb268ce STORAHCI.sys: SHA1 -- 6daf4bb09af562d978a3503ef17dedaad0e4880a STORPORT.sys: SHA1 -- 911e15fada65ab813ef4ce4cea82d185e82cb55a that's whats in there. |
| #1309 | AddFun | Updated with proper hashes, copy paste playing with me. |
| #1310 | diderius6 | ⇗ @AddFun May be crazy XP loads acpi.sys from other place. This BSOD is typical for old acpi.sys Dietmar |
| #1311 | AddFun | windows/system32? minus drivers folder? |
| #1312 | AddFun | Wait, heh, I have half a dozen images of WinXP installs from other machines, I can check. |
| #1313 | diderius6 | ⇗ @AddFun I have seen, that XP can load drivers from different other places. XP looks in all directories, if there is a "better" bootfile for this. I have seen this for acpi.sys ntoskernl.exe hal.dll ntbootdd.sys It is like a small part of intelligence from XP, I would say more "intelligent" than any other system on market Dietmar |
| #1314 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6, can you please share your DSDT? From what I understand, to delete the XHCI controlller has the same effect as Disabling / Enabling the device, like I do. Did you manage to get it working immediately after a reboot? |
| #1315 | infuscomus | ⇗ @AddFun my acpi.sys is different acpi.sys - 79a50a477541bea181d8a5009e5ec2e12209ffb4 but storahci.sys and storport.sys match storahci.sys - 6daf4bb09af562d978a3503ef17dedaad0e4880a storport.sys - 911e15fada65ab813ef4ce4cea82d185e82cb55a it is strange that GUI setup manages to complete before reboot to 7B BSOD are any of your drives not in ahci mode? ide mode? |
| #1316 | AddFun | Nope, it's in the right place. I just checked two of my other XP installs, acpi.sys is system32/drivers folder. |
| #1317 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1307 Thanks for trying. Does the original driver work? I think I got it working some time ago. |
| #1318 | AddFun | hmm, what is the link for the ACPI.sys, I downloaded the one from few pages ago. |
| #1319 | AddFun | SHA1 00e5ccbf42176c5cedf2f076314f30610638b602 for best5048acpi.sys that one? |
| #1320 | infuscomus | ⇗ @AddFun here is that file but SHA1 00e5ccbf42176c5cedf2f076314f30610638b602 might be the most recent, not sure now, I've confused myself infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #1321 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k Until now, on reboot the intel 3.1 xhci and the 3.0 renesas hub are there. But no USB device. If you deinstall the Intel 3.1 xhci one time all other is recogniced automatically and also all USB devices Dietmar PS: The DSDTUSB3.rar file contains old DSDT file from me before xhc mod and DSDT2 contains xhc mod. My Asrock Fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 has the BIOS 3.20. This is important, because you can only flash a Bios version with a higher versions number with the ezflash tool from Asrock. The DSDT tables are in Bios 3.20 and 3.30 identic. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1322 | infuscomus | ⇗ @daniel_k In virtualbox, I tried installing both, same result |
| #1323 | AddFun | Downloaded, just dropped it in. Thanks! Let me give it a whirl. Will report. |
| #1324 | daniel_k | ⇗ @canonkong Here they are, Renesas and VIA final modified drivers. Please sign both without changing anything and post the signed driver here. You can make your own changes later for your own release. For Renesas, only rusb3xhc.inf and rusb3xhc.sys must be signed, used a trick so the hub always has the same device ID. For VIA, only xhcdrv.inf and xhcdrv.sys must be signed. No device check in the Hub driver. |
| #1325 | AddFun | Sigh, 7b BSOD as usual. Going to take a short coffee break and then load up the registry hives from this XP install and see how the HAL is set up, but I KNOW it's ACPI since it wouldn't have gotten this far and I didn't go with the F7 route or no-ACPI option anywhere during the install. |
| #1326 | diderius6 | ⇗ @AddFun This is the last and best acpi.sys for Ryzen boards Dietmar PS: I can understand frustration a lot. Since yesterday I work about 20 hours for USB. And going nearly crazy with Bios modding and BSODs with all Tools. In bad times, just fetch coffee and have an apple for 5 min relax, this is important. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1327 | daniel_k | ⇗ @canonkong, could you please sign mosflt.inf and mosflt.sys in the Vista 32-bit and Vista 64-bit folder? Thanks! |
| #1328 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k OK, I will send it soon. |
| #1329 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1321 That's exactly the same behaviour I'm experiencing. Must be something in the ACPI table that XP doesn't like as the same Renesas driver works perfectly on Windows 7 x64. |
| #1330 | AddFun | Yeah, went through the relevant registry hives... it is set up as "acpiapic_mp" aka "ACPI Multiprocessor". ACPI enabled. So far, this seems like work in progress guys and an experiment without completely repeatable results. Hopefully with more time we will get there. |
| #1331 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1328 ⇗ @canonkong By the way, let me know how the VIA driver works. Let me clarify something. I recommend that you don't include a generic XHCI ID like PCI\CC_0C0330 to prevent the driver from being installed on XHCI controllers which have an official driver provided by the manufacurer. For example, both the Renesas and the VIA drivers will BSOD if you install on ASMedia. |
| #1332 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k I use ID replace, VIA usb driver Include four manufacturers: VIA is 1106, Gigabyte is 1458, MSI is 1462, ZHAOXIN is 1D17, so you can replace them with other VEN ID and DEV ID, like 149C A36D 9DED ect. It can modify to support 4 VEN ID and16 dev ID. |
| #1333 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1332 Yeah, I noticed that. Did the driver work? PS: Thanks for the signed files! |
| #1334 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k It is working well on my X370 and B360, and the 149C USB from 3700X on win7. |
| #1335 | daniel_k | ⇗ @canonkong Glad to know it works. Found a small bug, could you please sign the Renesas driver again? |
| #1336 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k OK, I will send it soon. |
| #1337 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k ⇗ @canonkong On XP, the Via xhci starts but the Via hub shows code 10. So, may be this is a good test for DSDT to have a look, why this code 10 happens and maybe then also the Nec/Renesas drivers works to 100% Dietmar EDIT: Also on "MPS" the Via Hub shows code 10. So this is not ACPI related! |
| #1338 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1336 Thanks, now it is perfect! |
| #1339 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6 VIA driver also gives error code 10 on Windows 7 x64, so this is definitively a driver issue. Renesas works just fine on Windows 7x 64, so we need to find out, what in the ACPI table affects its behavior on XP. |
| #1340 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k May be, it is a problem of usbstor.sys. There was a patch from Microsoft for XP, after that no USB devices where recogniced any longer, because setting wrong rights for usbstor.sys Dietmar |
| #1341 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1340 ⇗ @diderius6 Unfortunately not, it even fails to detect a simple USB 2.0 hub. |
| #1342 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @daniel_k The VIA usb driver modified by daniel_k work very well for 149C on win7, maybe xp also can work. But the Renesas usb driver can not work for 149C, it will bsod when it install. |
| #1343 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k Do you think it is possible to transplant the universal USB driver of win8/win8.1/win10 to win7 or Xp? In the absence of USB driver source. |
| #1344 | infuscomus | ⇗ @AddFun I forgot to ask this earlier, have you double checked that you have disabled driver signing? |
| #1345 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ daniel_k im Beitrag ¶ #1327 ⇗ @daniel_k do you know what this driver is used for? I have a card with the same chip and i found the stock usbehci.sys driver worked fine |
| #1346 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k The problem with hub3 under XP may be in CapabilityFlags (0x00001602) DeviceD2 Do you know, where those flags are set "DeviceD2 Specifies whether the device hardware supports the D2 power state. Drivers should not change this value." Dietmar
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| #1347 | XPLAKE8175 | I want intel hd 5500 drivers for windows xp. I finished modding Windows XP drivers for my 940m PC. Or will it work with Vesa VBE miniport. |
| #1348 | XPLAKE8175 | I want windows xp drivers for my Intel HD 5500 drivers for Windows XP to run Nvidia Geforce 940m. |
| #1349 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1343 Unfortunately, it is just impossible. There are far more changes besides resolving missing function API dependencies, which I've already tried. Microsoft makes changes "under the hood", the way memory is allocated, ACPI changes also affect the driver behavior. |
| #1350 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1345Zitat von ⇗ daniel_k im Beitrag ¶ #1327 Hi, that is a filter driver to fix Power Management issues with the MSC9990 chipset. On my both H270 / Z370 based boards, the system would not shutdown completely, I'll try the driver later to see if this helps. |
| #1351 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1346 The issue is not with the Hub itself. For some reason when the device is detected is remains in Disabled (D3) state. PS: The driver you've asked me by PM is here: ¶ Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts (89) It's just a minor Revision and SubsysID cosmetic issue. |
| #1352 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k I found for AMD 149C usb, VIA usb driver will cause 0x0000001E bsod suddenly sometimes.So we need to find a better driver. And ASMedia and TI usb driver cant work for the U disk on 149C. After testing all the usb drivers, there are only three drivers can work as a generic both can support intel/amd/asmedia/nvidia and more. There are Intel series usb drivers , AMD zeppelin USB driver, Etron USB drivers. Can you use your method to modify them? |
| #1353 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k It seems, that from the 3 Hubs only Renesas Electronics USB 3.0 Root Hub can find the driver rusb3hub.sys by itself. Renesas Electronics USB 2.0 Hub asks in my very best driver version now always for rusb3hub.sys and shows me the correct path, but asks, even rusb3hub.sys is found there from first Hub before. The same is true for Renesas Electronics USB 3.0 Hub. I modded the *.inf files, so after install USB starts with this driver, but I think on reboot the path to rusb3hub.sys is not found from the other 2 Hubs as mentioned before Dietmar PS: This USB driver works for Intel chipset USB3 under XP SP3 for the Asrock Fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board. EDIT: I just found, that my idea is true. Now I have to mod the *.inf files again, I split them in hub1.Inf hub2.inf hub3.inf EDIT2: I can load only one HUB with hub.inf, for example 2.0 Hub but no possibility to load the other 2 hubs with other *.inf. |
| #1354 | skullteria | Hello, ⇗ @diderius6, in case, Renesas driver works on XP SP3 with ACPI enabled (HALMACPI) or only MPS/Standard PC? |
| #1355 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Etron USB driver also can also work as a generic USB driver and it also support Xp, we can try it. |
| #1356 | diderius6 | ⇗ @skullteria Take a look at picture in post 1293, the Renesas driver works also on full "ACPI Multiprocessor" Dietmar PS: The only problem with this driver ist, that not all 3 Hubs start always. This may be a problem in xhci.sys, how the Hub is called. I think it has to do, that for first HUB sleep D3 isnt allowed, but for the other both D3 (sleep) is allowed. And my idea above ist just, that these 2 Hubs sometimes cant find their driver rusb3hub.sys. |
| #1357 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Do you have a test driver for Etron? I am very bad in modding, because no good tools for this here, I do all by hand (and brain sometimes)Dietmar |
| #1358 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 I tested it for amd 149C, it is working very well. |
| #1359 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1352 Sure, will do it later today. |
| #1360 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1353 Just tested the XP driver on Windows 7, and it works just fine. Now I'm sure the issue really lies in the ACPI, something that XP doesn't like. |
| #1361 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k It can be, that XP dont like different path. Normaly, all hubs are under Enum\USB but this Renesas Hub builds an own path with Enum\RENESAS_USB3. I checked the Via Hub, the Via Hub is also under Enum\USB\VIA_RootHub and the same for Asmedia_RootHub Dietmar PS: I just check this again. From Renesas the Hub2 and Hub3 are also build under Enum\USB but the RootHub is build under Enum\RENESAS_USB3, means an extra path. This could be tested, the call from driver xhci.sys just change from RENESAS_USB3 => USB Dietmar Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 And for HUB2 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 And for Hub3 Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 |
| #1362 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Please send me your Etron driver Dietmar |
| #1363 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Test it. ⇗ https://yadi.sk/d/Li6PI1NZG6NFbQ |
| #1364 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Unfortunately the Etron driver crashes during install on XP, for "MPS" and for Acpi mode Dietmar |
| #1365 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 AMD platfrom? Maybe I modifed incorrect on 32bit, I wiil upload a new one. |
| #1366 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong No, for the AMD platform with x570, the AMD driver from post 1095 works for XP 32 bit Dietmar |
| #1367 | diderius6 | I found the problem with the Renesas driver. Only the Root_HUB30 is in energylevel D0 (full on). The other 2 Hubs stay until now in D2 and this makes the problem Dietmar EDIT: When I disable the switch in device manager "Computer enable power save" those energylevel D2 => D0 after clicking ok, as I can see via Devicemanager. But all my other Hubs stay only in D0, even when this switch "powersave" is enabled. PS: This Renesas driver with modded *.inf by me is best until now for Intel chipset and XP 32 bit. ⇗
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| #1368 | daniel_k | ⇗ @canonkong, here is the Etron driver. There are 2 variants, as there are some hacks depending on the XHCI controller detected. Couldn't try them here, as it crashes or hangs Windows immediately. Try both and pick the best one. Theoretically, the 7052 driver should be "better" as it has less hacks for the newer models. What is the version of the AMD Zeppelin driver? |
| #1369 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I just tested the 2 Etron drivers. Both crash for XP 32 bit on Intel chipset from the Asrock k6 board. They crash in "ACPI Multiprocessor" and in "MPS". After crash, compi does even not boot in Safe Mode (F8) Dietmar |
| #1370 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1369 Yeah, it is of no use for Intel. Actually, they are meant for AMD Ryzen. Can you try it on Ryzen, please? It's based on the same driver canonkong used in post 1095. |
| #1371 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k On 149C the etronxhci7052.sys works at once. It is Ryzen 3700x on the nice AMD board asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 Dietmar PS: On 43BB it gives unknown device. Also the USB 2.0 port does not work. For the etronxhci7023.sys is exact the same. EDIT: With my modded driver in post 1095 it is other. ALL USB on Ryzen 1700x and Ryzen 3700x works on asus prime x570-pro and asrock fatal1ty ab350 gaming k4 board under XP 32 bit. |
| #1372 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6!!!!! I did it!!!! Finally a working driver for Intel which fully works and passes basic tests. All devices are detected after several restarts, doesn't crashes when disabled/enabled! Performance seems OK, detects USB 2.0 hub and a pendrive connected to it. Just hold a few minutes. |
| #1373 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I wantttttttt !!!!! |
| #1374 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k AMD zeppelin USB driver is 2.0.0.48 ⇗ Download |
| #1375 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k Your modified Etron USB driver work very well. Etron seems that has ven_1033, dev_1094 in the xhci.sys. |
| #1376 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1373 Here it is, based on the last USB 3.0 driver for XP from AMD. Please try it on Intel Z370 or Z390 (do you have any?) and also on AMD platform. Test USB 2.0, 3.1 and 3.2 devices. USB 3.1 and 3.2 benchmarks would be great as well. Driver can be found in the following post: ¶ Windows XP SP3 32bit and modern PC parts (128) |
| #1377 | asasin | ⇗ @daniel_k Can this driver work on intel h110? Edit:Thanks I will write when I test |
| #1378 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ asasin im Beitrag ¶ #1377 Possibly yes. |
| #1379 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1374 Hmm, this driver is strange. Either the device codes are encrypted somehow or there is simply no device check. Try to edit the INF file and install it. |
| #1380 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k Itworksitworksitworks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![]() What a nice day for Windows XP Dietmar PS: Thank you a lot Daniel! ⇗ ![]() |
| #1381 | skullteria | In my computer, Motherboard H110 and core i7 6700k, all drivers get code 10 on Windows XP/2003 32 bits. I think maybe is related with ACPI OSI, maybe checking Windows Version provided by ACPI |
| #1382 | diderius6 | ⇗ @skullteria You have to mod the DSDT table in Bios for to overcome code 10 see post 1321 Dietmar PS: Be very careful with Bios mod. I crashed 2 compis, even I try to work as careful as possible. I succeed to reflash the Bios to this compis but it needs months. |
| #1383 | diderius6 | Now its time, lets start XP 32 bit on UEFI:)) Dietmar |
| #1384 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k On the Scandisk Ultra I get more than 300 Mbyte/s read write via the AMD driver on the Intel chipset USB3.0 via XP SP3. This is exact as fast as the Asmedia 3.1 USB slot with the same USB stick. I tested a lot of different USB, all work, even the crazy Samsung phone is recogniced at once. When I change 6 USB devices at the same time, I get "unknown device". But on next reboot this is gone. Now I try USB boot via your nice AMD driver Dietmar |
| #1385 | skullteria | Well, i think we need find a way to get usb working without modify the bios. I'm trying compile usb 3.0 from win 8/win 10, however, it is not easy. |
| #1386 | diderius6 | ⇗ @skullteria Before I thought, that we need Microsoft Kernel-Mode Driver Framework Install-v1.9-Win2k-WinXP-Win2k3.rar For example the Renesas driver has in coinstaller something like this and mostly all newer USB drivers. You can see with Dependency Walker if WDFLDR.sys is needed for this driver. But the AMD driver from Daniel from just now shows, that it is possible without WDFLDR.sys Dietmar |
| #1387 | skullteria | I understand...However, i mean modify BIOS is dangerus and if we want Windows XP keep used on the world, need a easy way to end users. And maybe run it on reactos, for example. |
| #1388 | infuscomus | ⇗ @skullteria ⇗ @diderius6 It may be possible to avoid doing a bios mod to fix the USB code 10 problem But it would require the installation of grub2 bootloader onto windows for its ability to apply ACPI patches |
| #1389 | canonkong | ⇗ @skullteria ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @daniel_k Can we use this USB Driver source code to modified and make a usb general driver? ⇗ https://yadi.sk/d/yQw1Q3mtLsiA_w |
| #1390 | infuscomus | ⇗ @canonkong ⇗ @skullteria ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @daniel_k correct me if i'm wrong but it's my understanding that the ReactOS usbxhci driver is unfinished/incomplete |
| #1391 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus ⇗ @skullteria ⇗ @daniel_k ⇗ @canonkong I also think, that the Reactos xhci driver will not be ready next years and so cant help us. I noticed, that the AMD driver vers. 1.1.0.0145, which works for XP on Intel chipsets has a problem with Class_08&SubClass_06&Prot_50 (USB harddisks) devices. It is not the fault of the driver direct, because under Win7 my last driver from Renesas and the nice driver AMD 1.1.0.0145 from Daniel work. The device is recogniced, it sounds (plop) 3 times in a quick row and thats all Dietmar EDIT: For my last Renesas driver vers. 3.0.23.0 happens exact the same under XP. All USB devices are recogniced. But Class_08&SubClass_06&Prot_50 (USB harddisks) devices gives always 3 fast plops and thats all. May be it has to do with the switch in XP, that they are not removable disks. Yepp, I have a Kingston Workspace USB stick, which is set as nonremovable. There happens exact the same, 3 fast plops. EDIT2: It has nothing to do with Class_08&SubClass_06&Prot_50 I have an USB stick with exact this class (removable) which is recogniced and works under XP and Intel chipset. EDIT3: I set up a new XP. Now this problem is gone with the nice driver AMD vers. 1.1.0.0145 from Daniel. I changed soso many settings in USB before, so one makes, that no unremovable sticks or disks are recogniced. Funny, I search all database from Microsoft and via Internet, such a switch is not documented for XP. Only, that all USB devices are forbidden (easy set start=4 for service usbstor in registry). |
| #1392 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6, glad you sorted it out. Never had such issue here. Does USB work fine during Setup? Did you install XP from USB? |
| #1393 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I just boot this XP direct from USB with no other device connected, this is really the hardest test for this nice driver from you Dietmar PS: The speed on USB boot device is during USB3 slot 93.55% from native speed, waaoh !EDIT: I run Cinebench, prime95, 3Dmark2001 on this XP, bootet with your AMD driver from USB3 port, absolut stable:)). ⇗ ![]() |
| #1394 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k AMD vers. 1.1.0.0145 bsod will bsod when it install for 149C. And now I found that only Etron usb driver can work well. Intel serise and AMD 2.0.0.48 also can work, but it must install it on windows after install the AMD chips driver. If don't install like that. it will BSOD. |
| #1395 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1394 ⇗ @canonkong, so the AMD 2.0.0.48 works without modding amdxhci.sys? Only INF mod needed? At least one driver, Etron, works fine. |
| #1396 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k Yes, AMD 2.0.0.48 is only INF mod needed, and it can support almost all usb devices, it can work for intel, amd asmedia, nvidia usb-c and more. |
| #1397 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k What do you think, is it possible, to mod one of the following Intel network drivers for XP, that it supports i219? This package contains them all from i210 to i218 for XP 32 bit. i219 is the Intel chipset driver for network on a lot of motherboards Dietmar diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1398 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 You can replace the i218-v GBE to the i219 use uefitool with the BIOS. |
| #1399 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I want vice versa:)) i219 => i218 And this are only the networkfiles in Bios. For XP, you need to mod for example the e1rxp5132.sys (for i210, i211) for to support i219. But there are other files coinstaller etc. also Dietmar PS: Have you modded networkfiles via this way in Bios? |
| #1400 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Yes, my board have i219-v, and it don't have windows server driver, when you replace the i219-LM GBE, I219-V will become I219-LM, becaus it is not a fully network device, just a phy. Also i211-AT can replace the rom, and it will becom to i210 serise. |
| #1401 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Hm, does this mean, that the newer Intel PCI device IDs for the network only depend on Bios? And will it work for i219 => i211 Dietmar |
| #1402 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Yes, the newer Intel PCI device IDs for the network depend on bios GBE. But i219 => i211 is not possible, i219 => i218/i217 is OK. |
| #1403 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Can you please write a short tutorial, how to change i219 => i218/i217 Dietmar |
| #1404 | XPLives | ⇗ @canonkong I would be interested in seeing a step by step tutorial on how you signed the drivers from scratch. Is this a free program or where to get it? This would be helpful in making the driver installation process automated without user interaction. Since you are using Windows 7, do you know how to disable ACPI in Windows 7 or Vista during setup? |
| #1405 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Use uefitool (UBU) to open a bios which have i218, then extract the gbe, use uefitool to open your needed bios, repalce it and save it, then you can flash it. |
| #1406 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives Vista or Win7 cant be installed without ACPI. I tried to install Vista 32 on Ryzen PC, impossible. But Vista 32 bit works after the same hack in acpi.sys for Vista as for XP. Depending on Bios version and motherboard, even Win7 32 bit can fail install on Ryzen, I have had this experience. And all Linux versions 32 bit, that I testet, fail on Ryzen. Dietmar |
| #1407 | canonkong | ⇗ @XPLives I signed the drivers use a signtool named Trust Asia, it very easy to sign a driver using this tool. Disable ACPI in Windows 7 or Vista during setup is very hard, but if you meet A5 bsod, try to delete the acpipmi.sys and its regs before install. |
| #1408 | asasin | hello again Unfortunately, I have a problem with the driver (or something else) from ⇗ @daniel_k . Installs it through the device manager. The device returns code 39. Driver installation returns error "Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39)". any ideas? Motherboard: ⇗ https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/H11...specifications/ usb id PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_A12F&CC_0C0330 |
| #1409 | diderius6 | ⇗ @asasin Code 39 means, that something with the driver is wrong, for example checksum Dietmar |
| #1410 | asasin | So for now I can't do anything about this usb? |
| #1411 | infuscomus | ⇗ @asasin we are still experimenting |
| #1412 | infuscomus | ⇗ @daniel_k concerning your previously uploaded AMDXHCI driver from post #1376 - there is a hardcoded HWID in there could that hardcoded HWID cause issues? |
| #1413 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6, ⇗ @infuscomus Regarding sleep states: My Asus Prime B350-Plus Ryzen can not sleep like my Gigabyte Intel GA-P75-D3 Ivy board with i3470 (all Z77 drivers works fine here in Xp). The Ryzen B350, if sleep in XP, will need a reboot. Not too ideal. The Ivy board with its cpu fan can go to a complete stop and wake up in a keystroke. Is this a D3 sleep mode? How can I enable this? The Prime B350-Plus Ryzen board with 2600 can not even have it cpu fan stopped. And it stays locked forever(test for an hour) unless reboot!. Any helps appreciated. Cedar |
| #1414 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar Please ask a concrete question. Some steps about sleep states can be done in Bios settings. But be careful there, Dietmar |
| #1415 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 I will double check the bios setting again. maybe I missed something before. |
| #1416 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus ⇗ @daniel_k ⇗ @canonkong Tomorrow I make a try for USB3 on Intel chipset for the z370 ROG-MAXIMUS-X-APEX board with 9900k cpu. First challenge is the DSDT mod for its Bios there. At once we will see, if this is a generic mod in DSDT for the xhc device. Funny, only the Intel chipset is mentioned in Bios with its xhc and not for example Asmedia xhc? Also I want to try the nice tip from ⇗ @canonkong for the Intel i219 => i217, which this board has but no XP driver for it. I never used the UBU tool only UEFI-tool, so any help with UBU is welcome. When I succeed, I write a tutorial about all. May be it is possible, to mod the BIOS in a generic way, that it can be flashed with its own tools. For this we need to understand, how the flash tool check validity of the Bios. We can then use the normal Bios from download side in Web, do the generic DSDT mod for xhc on it, check it and flash. Via this way the risk is minimal (but not zero, as I have seen for the Asus x570 -Pro board) Dietmar |
| #1417 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Lost_N_BIOS Can there be a problem, when you use for modbiosfilenamehere.bin the original Bios version from download Webside FPTw.exe -bios -f modbiosfilenamehere.bin Dietmar PS: I ask this, because I noticed, that the all in one order for to backup Bios via FPTw.exe -d myBios.bin gives not the original flashed Bios on chip back. |
| #1418 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 I have not tried to full install from scratch for Vista or W7 on AMD AM4. But here's a trick if you want to use Vista or Windows 7 on AMD AM4. This worked with Bristol Ridge CPU. Install the OS on Ivy Bridge then just move the SATA drive over and connect to the AMD AM4 system and it boots up to the desktop no issue. It uses the Microsoft AHCI SATA driver so no BSOD 7B. It might trigger the genuine activation since it detects different hardware however not matching motherboard may deactivate the genuine status. But you can still bypass and continue to use the OS with an occasional nag screen every now and then. I used this to copy the Hardware IDs of the SATA controller before installing XP as this was the only way to get it easily. |
| #1419 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives Does it work also for Vista 32 bit Dietmar |
| #1420 | XPLives | ⇗ @canonkongZitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1407 Is this Trust Asia signtool free? Can you upload or message me the link to get it? I need to test if this will work with my customized drivers that I want to later upload for user testing in unattended 2000->W7 installs. Also can you name the company who signed it or will it say only Trust Asia on the certificate? How about a customized unattended install file for Vista / W7? That would be easier to do to disable ACPI internally from the start if it is similar to XP. Later we can look into disabling the registry references to acpi files and registry entries so it doesn't load them. |
| #1421 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1419 Yes it does. I actually test with Vista 32-Bit because it is smaller in size than the 64-Bit version. It had to fit on a 16GB SSD so I chose Vista 32-Bit for the portable Vista boot to get Hardware Ids for XP. Vista 64-Bit needs at least 20GB to even start the installation. I used Vista 64-Bit on a larger hard drive and boots up also with swapping the drive. I also have a Windows 7 32-Bit also but it should work the same as Vista. |
| #1422 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1416 You shouldn't need to mod the BIOS for Intel USB 3.0 to work. That would prevent a lot of laptop users from using them. Just as ACPI.SYS mod is better than BIOS mod for universal usage. Also your ACPI.SYS I tested on Z370 Coffee Lake had issues. Works to install ACPI Multiprocessor. Problem is Video Card does not show up in Device Manager. It's missing. I cannot install the driver for it so XP becomes useless without Titan X as its friend. Did you figure out how to change device default IRQs assigned? Can you disable IRQ6 and free it from being used by the FDC so maybe the video card can use it or Intel USB 3.0 will use that IRQ instead? I think this is the problem the Intel USB 3.0 may not be functioning correctly since it does not get assigned the necessary resources. Also a way to disable some PCI standard PCI-PCI bridge from using any resources. Too many of these overwhelm XP and I believe that's why the Video card is not showing up in Device Manager and possibly why Intel USB 3.0 not working. |
| #1423 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives This means, that Vista 32bit can handle crazy Irq calls from the AM4 processors better than Linux 32 bit Dietmar PS: I have no success to install Vista 32 on Ryzen. I also noticed big problems with all AHCI drives in Vista, compared with XP. Intel chipset USB does not work until now in XP, because Intel set its driver to sleep in DSDT, gives code 10. And only the Intel xhci.sys knows, how to wake up. No other USB driver on the market can do that. Because of this, there was no USB for XP on the Intel chipset, even the drivers are nearly all the same (generic). |
| #1424 | canonkong | ⇗ @XPLives Trust Asia signtool can down free, but you need CA. I can share this tool and CA, but this tool only has Chinese language, I dont know you can read it or not. |
| #1425 | diderius6 | I just notice, that for the xhc device on Asrock k6 and on Asus Apex X Method (_PS0, 0, Serialized) // _PS0: Power State 0 in DSDT table is absolut identic. Force to sleep with code 10. So, from tomorrow also USB 3.0 should run on Intel chipset on the Asus Apex X board Dietmar |
| #1426 | XPLives | ⇗ @canonkongZitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1424 Yes can you upload the link here? I can probably have it translated or figure it out. Are there any English sign tools you know of free/paid to do this? |
| #1427 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives Just try other grafikcard for XP Dietmar |
| #1428 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1427 Yes I did that with multiple cards swapping. All appear Missing in Device Manager. But you can still boot up on the Video Card and get video output. Just no way to install a driver for the graphics card so stuck at MS VGA driver on Coffee Lake. When moving the drive to Ivy Bridge, it sees the Video Card in Device Manager. |
| #1429 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives Something went wrong during install of XP. I have also strange results for some newer boards during install of XP. In this case I use an install of XP from another board, where everything works. I think it depends on faulty DSDT and other SSDT in Bios Dietmar |
| #1430 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1429 So far besides your Z370, Z390, how many other users tested your ACPI to work on Coffee Lake without issues and no Bios Mod done? Did you try testing your Z370 and Z390 on clean unmodified BIOS and only using your ACPI.sys mod for XP SP3 clean install? On AMD AM4 Bristol Ridge test, ACPI Multiprocessor shows, VGA card shows, only issues is slower processor performance, and when using a very large Ramdisk it slows the boot up time that does not happen on Intel. |
| #1431 | canonkong | ⇗ @XPLives Signtool always is free and you can use Microsoft signtool, but the CA is not free and very expensive. |
| #1432 | XPLives | ⇗ @canonkong Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1431 Okay message me the link where you download yours from and I will test. Or you can upload the one you have if it is clean. As long as it is signed and can install without prompting the user to confirm is all I need for testing. |
| #1433 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1423 I have not done extensive testing on Vista on AMD AM4 but I didn't see any problems booting into it and checking Device Manager and seemed stable to me. I used a USB card to use the USB mouse. Do you have an Ivy Bridge or earlier Intel chipset MB to install Vista 32-Bit clean onto a Sata drive? After fully installed you can then move the drive to your AMD AM4 and it should boot to the OS without issue. I only tested on my Bristol Ridge but I don't see why it would not work on Ryzen CPU. It's possible you can't install Vista clean on AMD AM4 directly but I never tried. On SkyLake I can install Vista on it without issue. I didn't test a clean Vista install using Coffee Lake yet have you tried? |
| #1434 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1393 So glad to know! After so much work, it was worth the effort! |
| #1435 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k How to solve the problem about the USB driver meet 01E and 02C BSOD sometimes? For example, 149C use via intel amd 2.0.0.48 driver mod driver. VIA will meet 01E BSOD sometimes. Intel/AMD 2.0.0.48 will meet 02C BSOD when install/uninstall, or meet memory can not read 0x0000002C. |
| #1436 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1412 Not at all. I've just changed the minimum required for the driver to work with any XHCI controller. Those HWIDs are used just for device specific fixes and ensures the driver will behave the same when used with the devices it was originally designed for. The less changes the better. |
| #1437 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ canonkong im Beitrag ¶ #1435 ⇗ @canonkong Unfortunately, that is beyond my knowledge. While XHCI is a standard, manufacturers include a lot of device specific code to fix design flaws etc. Most probably the driver expects something the controller doesn't do or the driver does something that it shouldn't if following the standards. When we remove the device ID checks, we are just hoping for the driver to work properly. It's just a matter of luck. |
| #1438 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ cedar im Beitrag ¶ #1413 ACPI 1.0a support is broken in the new systems. It's though enough to get XP working on new systems, don't expect StandBy or even Hibernation to ever work properly. I've tried really hard to fix the ACPI table, but just gave up. |
| #1439 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1429 Yes. I intend to do another project to shrink down XP setup files to the bare minimum smaller than Tiny XP size. But will require lots of help to identify all the files we don't need. After sorting through the 6,000+ files then the fun can begin to trim XP to bare minimum and XP install will be very fast even on an optical drive. Maybe it's possible to shrink below 100MB and hopefully under 100 files. Currently, XP SP0 uses the least amount of files and installs to around 600 some MB. XP SP3 uses more files and bloats it too much. But XP SP1 first supports large partition so may need to use this as the XP installer source. I found XP SP0 can get the full 4.0GB memory usage compared to SP2/SP3 drops to 3.15GB->3.5GB max. So MS stole 0.5->0.85GB of memory from XP users. ![]() |
| #1440 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1414 ⇗ @diderius6 He wants to get Standby working on Ryzen. Dietmar, have you ever try to put your system in Standby (Sleep) then Wake it? Tried to fix myself but gave up, too much work. |
| #1441 | XPLives | ⇗ @daniel_k Zitat von ⇗ daniel_k im Beitrag ¶ #1438Zitat von ⇗ cedar im Beitrag ¶ #1413 I never use hibernation since if you install 32GB or more RAM it requires an equal amount of RAM for the hibernat.fil in Vista and maybe even 2003. But since XP memory will be capped it's probably 3.15->4.00GB in size depending on which SP version used. Standby was never 100% reliable even on Ivy Bridge. Sometimes if you sleep too long you can never wake the system up and if you use a large Ramdrive you cannot backup the data first so it is lost. I prefer to underclock and undervolt the system to your preferred speed and just leave all cores running. XP hardly crashes in this scenario. If you used Standby on IB it is better to not let it sleep too long. A few minutes is safe. Better to get a UPS instead so you can shut down safely. On the bright side diderius6 ACPI.sys mod still allows Coffee Lake and Ryzen MB to shut down instead of a manual power off. |
| #1442 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1416 ⇗ @diderius6 Found the culprit ACPI statement that prevents the driver from loading on XP. Taken from the ACPI table of your ASRock Z370 board. Search for Device (XHC) and change this:
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| #1443 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I have not tried sleeping mode on XP, because also on chipsets before Skylake it was faulty. On the evga z390 dark board they make a Bios for real XP. It is version 0.92 and there you may find some intuition for to change Acpi tables. It is not on their Website, so I put it here. This board I use for generic XP install, really best. Have you an idea, how to overcome for your new driver the sleeping code 10 in DSDT table in Method (_PS0, 0, Serialized) // _PS0: Power State 0 ⇗ @XPLives is right, that Bios mod of DSDT is nothing for "normal" people. But I think, this mod can make like generic Dietmar Edit: Funny, I wrote this few mins ago. The Bios 0.92 for XP on z390 is too big for to upload here, so I give you the link, it is on top of this website ⇗ https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-Z390-DARK-O...T-m2930290.aspx |
| #1444 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives I make XP SP1 install at a size of about 3 Mbyte^^ Dietmar ⇗ http://reboot.pro/topic/3717-xpsp1-with-...fs-below-10-mb/ PS: And Windows Server 2003 at a size of about 2 Mbyte, fits on1 diskette. This is record until now. |
| #1445 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I just give the asl.exe tool a new chance. I upload your new mod DSDT table via asl.exe. But then I get again BSOD A5, crazy tool because of ACPI. But then I remembered, that I still have a "MPS" XP installation. And voila, there your mod works. This means, also the asl tool works, only not correct for Acpi mod. So at once I can give a mini Tutorial for to test if USB3 for intel chipset works on your compi without real Bios modding. 0.) Make a "MPS" XP installation (This is without ACPI. You can also use "Standart PC" hitting F5 during setup of XP.) 1.) Extract with UEFI tool your DSDT table. From this raw file make dsdt.dsl with the tool iasl in commandline C:\ iasl.exe dsdt.raw 2.) Do the mod in DSDT as in post 1442. 3.) Make dsdt.aml from this modded file dsdt.dsl via C:\iasl dsdt.dsl in commandline. 3.) Copy the Tool asl.exe to your C:\ folder 4.) Type via commandline C:\asl /loadtable dsdt.aml Reboot your Compi. 5.) Install the USB driver from ⇗ @daniel_k Voila:)) Thats all. The real Bios is not touched on your COMPI! Modded DSDT is stored only in registry. When you want to unload the modded DSDT from your compi just type in commandline C:\asl /loadtable -d dsdt.aml I just tested this, it works Dietmar |
| #1446 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 i recall from my experimenting earlier that you need to load the FACP table before loading the DSDT table perhaps that is why you get A5 BSOD when in ACPI mode? try asl.exe /loadtable facp.raw asl.exe /loadtable dsdt.raw |
| #1447 | cedar | ⇗ @daniel_k ------------ ACPI 1.0a support is broken in the new systems. It's though enough to get XP working on new systems, don't expect StandBy or even Hibernation to ever work properly. I've tried really hard to fix the ACPI table, but just gave up. ------------ It is good to know that it is not my specific Prime B350 that has this problem. So it is a general problem. I tried all the usb 3.0 drivers from yours,diderius6,and canonkong. So far no success on my Gigabyte B75 Ivy board. Some Host controllers can be installed, but none of 3.0 hubs drivers can be installed. Have you had any successful USB3.0 XP installed on any other Intel board? As older boards have no ACPI problems. Wouldn't it be more likely to be modded successfully than present board? Cedar |
| #1448 | cedar | ⇗ @XPLives Were you able to install XP sp2 and earlier on Ryzen? |
| #1449 | skullteria | Hello, i will install Windows Vista on my system, motherboard with chipset H110 and try install usb driver from here. If succeded, maybe problem ACPI driver or power saving on Vista. If get Code 10 too, maybe it is related with Windows version on OSI function. We really need run usb 3.0 on XP without edit Bios |
| #1450 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I just tested my own Tutorial for USB mod direct on the Asus Apex X board with minimod of DSDT via Daniel. Works !!!Have a nice day Dietmar ⇗ ![]() ⇗ ![]() |
| #1451 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 and ⇗ @XPLives 3 Mb XP is really good and hilariuous. I am very interested to stall a very small XP64 or Win7x64 on my ivy MB or Win7x64 on Ryzen, as long as it can run ffmpeg64 for fast x265 backup. I prefer ffmpeg over x265.exe as no audio remux (intermediate files created) is required. Cedar |
| #1452 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k At the same time I feel, that we will not be able to have an USB driver for XP 32 bit for Intel chipset USB without Bios Mod, because always XP hangs up itself when it comes in Bios for the xhc driver to the lines (64 bit) with PDBM &= 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF9 and PDBM &= 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFD Dietmar PS: So it is not (?!) the fault of Intel but of motherboard manufacturers. |
| #1453 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I tried first to load facp and then dsdt asl.exe /loadtable facp.raw asl.exe /loadtable dsdt.raw but again on ACPI XP BSOD 0xA5 this is very strange, because the asl tool works very good in other cases Dietmar PS: So, the only hope without real Bios Mod Intel USB is to repair or write new the Tool asl.exe. |
| #1454 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 There is source code for intel ASL on github ⇗ https://github.com/acpica/acpica I am not sure if it will help |
| #1455 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Do you have the binary for Intel ASL and how is the Syntax for its use? Another idea would be: The DSDT table can be seen in (ACPI only) XP registry and also been edited there. But on next boot the Bios loads its original own DSDT. If we just can stop writing of Bios its own DSDT to the registry again, it would be done Dietmar |
| #1456 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 is this what you are looking for? ⇗ https://acpica.org/downloads/binary-tools can we set DSDT to read only using permissions in the registry editor? |
| #1457 | diderius6 | I just found, how the asl Tool works. When you read the registry on running XP with ACPI out, the values of the DSDT are NOT stored. But when you upload DSDT with asl.exe suddently is there a BIG set of data, all Hexvalues at the place from DSDT Dietmar EDIT: With asl the whole DSDT is blown up to a very big dataset at the same place, where in working ACPI XP it stays. It gets an extra start signature, but then follows the normal "DSDT" signature and it ends with the normal signature for dsdt. And then follows in registry the entry for FACP, as normal. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\ACPI\Parameters\DSDT\ALASKA\A_M_I_\01072009] Because in registry only ControlSet001 is stored, FACP is always stored normally, but DSDT without asl is always loaded new via Bios. May be adding the line in DSDT in registry "Action"=dword:00000000is enough and copy DSDT into ControlSet001 Dietmar |
| #1458 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus "can we set DSDT to read only using permissions in the registry editor?" Good idea, but until now without success for me Dietmar |
| #1459 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1457 asl.exe /loadtable facp.raw did not help? |
| #1460 | XPLAKE8175 | I'm getting A5 ACPI error on my ASUS k555lb laptop. I don't want to install XP without ACPI. Which is the latest version of XP ACPI compliant for my laptop K555LB? |
| #1461 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus The asl tool builds complete DSDT entry new in ControlSet001. Without asl, the DSDT is not stored at all in ControlSet001, DSDT is loaded each time on reboot new from Bios Dietmar |
| #1462 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 acpi.sys from post 1326 should work, this is a notebook with Intel chipset Dietmar |
| #1463 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1457 While I can't help you with this, isn't possible to export the ACPI tables created by the ASL tool then import them into SETUPREG.HIV, which is the default registry for Windows Setup? This way could be possible to create a custom SETUPREG.HIV for every board. |
| #1464 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ cedar im Beitrag ¶ #1447 ⇗ @cedar What do you mean by "none of 3.0 hubs drivers can be installed"? Isn't the root hub detected? Or it is detected but won't work properly? |
| #1465 | infuscomus | ⇗ @daniel_k if you have the time - can you figure out what causes code 39 error when using amdxhci driver for USB 3.0 in virtualbox? |
| #1466 | cedar | ⇗ @daniel_k I didn't see any usb 3.0 root hub entry available after installing the 3.0 host controller. Only the default generic usb 2.0 hub is available. So I guessed at that point, I am stuck. I ran the drivers without my hardware ID first. When they failed. I added my Ivy HW ID as an alternative test. But without any successes. If you are interested, I can test your drivers again. Cedar |
| #1467 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ cedar im Beitrag ¶ #1466 The root hub is detected as an unknown device. If the XHCI host controller is enabled succesfully, it immediately creates a child device. Try to view the devices by connection and check if the host controller has a child device. |
| #1468 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1465 You must use the Renesas driver and am sure I've got it working. Will try again later. |
| #1469 | XPLAKE8175 | #1326 |
| #1470 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I think, the Renesas driver from post 1367 ist best Dietmar |
| #1471 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 I tried renesas driver you mentioned in virtualbox - code 39 again |
| #1472 | cedar | ⇗ @daniel_k I retest AMDXHCI_FINAL_ from #1376 on XP32 on Ivy Mb with my hardware IDs %AMDXHC.DeviceDesc% = AMDXHC,PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E26&SUBSYS_50061458&REV_04 All instant reboots after installing the host controller with or without my HW IDs. I did remember some host controller drivers can be installed a few days ago. The TI Host controller can definitely installed. I will try the XP64 versions soon. Cedar |
| #1473 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ cedar im Beitrag ¶ #1472 The BIOS is not properly configured for USB 3.0. Those device IDs are USB 2.0 controllers (CC_0C0320). You need to set xHCI Mode to Enabled and HS Port #1 Switchable~HS Port #4 Switchable to Disabled. |
| #1474 | cedar | ⇗ @daniel_k Ok. the test was on AMDXHC,PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E26&SUBSYS_50061458&REV_04, as it was the 1st top entry chosen during installation. I didn't pick CC_0C03 specificly. "my tests" was there to remind myself I tested the driver. I will delete all (CC_0C0320)s entries. I believe my Bios was with xHCI enabled. But I will recheck to confirm. Cedar |
| #1475 | daniel_k | The device ID of the Intel USB 3.0 controller should be the following: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E31&SUBSYS_50071458 PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E31&CC_0C0330 Unless you are using PS/2 keyboard or mouse, your input device will be unavailable until a proper driver is installed. |
| #1476 | diderius6 | I understand a little bit more, how the asl Tool works. In registry HKLM\services the acpi.sys driver is called. Normally, acpi.sys fetch its data from DSDT from Bios. May be, this happens just now also and only later it should be overwritten with the DSDT values in "parameters". Then the call from the DSDT table from Bios gives BSOD A5, before it can be overridden by the "parameters". The asl.exe Tool writes after loadtable the data of DSDT in its "parameters" for next boot. There, "new DSDT" stays. The size of the ACPI "parameters" there is enourmous, but it is just the dsdt.aml with very small changes. It is splitted in 19 entries whereas its counterpart in HKLM\hardware\acpi\dsdt is not splitted Dietmar PS: Interesting, how "MPS" XP can read the DSDT, because it has no acpi.sys. EDIT: May be, the asl.exe tool cant work together with If (OSYS >= 0x07D6) |
| #1477 | XPLAKE8175 | you have to download ahci drivers or switch sata mode to ide (if it is available). |
| #1478 | cedar | ⇗ @daniel_k I disable the 4 switchable in bios and delete VEN_8086&DEV_1E26&CC_0C0320. The XP32 still instantly reboot, without install anything upon reboot. But the XP64 version is better. I can install the host controller, and install the 3.0 hub. This time the unknown hub 3.0 appear and can also installed but with code 10. Edit: I will retest 32 bits with PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E31&SUBSYS_50071458 PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E31&CC_0C0330 Cedar |
| #1479 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1443 When XP is installed in MPS, NO ACPI, which file is loaded instead of ACPI.SYS? Is there a way to take the code for shutdown you fixed in ACPI.SYS and add as a registry fix or patch alternate file XP uses for NO ACPI mode? This is still useful for F7 test on Intel even without hyperthreading but all cores will show up. AMD AM4 can only use Standard PC unicore so alas. :( |
| #1480 | XPLives | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 Zitat von ⇗ XPLAKE8175 im Beitrag ¶ #1460 Since you have a Kaby Lake laptop this is interesting to test for compatibility. Can you still do F7 NO ACPI XP install on it to completion to GUI setup mode or all the way to first desktop screen? Is CSM mode still intact? |
| #1481 | XPLAKE8175 | I have got Broadwell Laptop |
| #1482 | XPLives | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 Zitat von ⇗ XPLAKE8175 im Beitrag ¶ #1481 Broadwell laptop should install with ACPI normally since Haswell laptop should work. Are you getting BSOD A5 issue on it? Try F7 NO ACPI install method and see if it finishes to desktop. The USB 2.0 ports on it should work for USB mouse/keyboard. Check the Task Manager and you should see all cores working just no hyperthreading. |
| #1483 | XPLAKE8175 | Yes I'm still getting ACPI error on my K555LB. My BIOS version is 605 which is the latest version. |
| #1484 | XPLAKE8175 | I don't want to install Windows XP without ACPI because my integrated keyboard does not work, I can't see my battery life and I can't shutdown without holding power button. |
| #1485 | XPLives | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175Zitat von ⇗ XPLAKE8175 im Beitrag ¶ #1483 Then it's possible Haswell laptops will have the same issue since they should be the same. Haswell/Broadwell desktops are the last fully XP ACPI compliant then it seems for fresh install and Ivy Bridge laptop the last generation. For now then try the F7 NO ACPI install method and see if it finishes to desktop. The USB 2.0 ports on it should work for USB mouse/keyboard. Check the Task Manager and you should see all cores working just no hyperthreading. Which CPU is installed in your laptop? How many memory slots does it have? |
| #1486 | XPLAKE8175 | My CPU is Intel Core i5 5200u and I have two memory slots and total of 8 gb of ram. |
| #1487 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 Make a photo or describe all the exact numbers of your BSOD Dietmar |
| #1488 | XPLives | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 Zitat von ⇗ XPLAKE8175 im Beitrag ¶ #1484 If you don't even attempt the F7 NO ACPI install you will never know if the USB 2.0 ports on it will even work so the internal keyboard will not work either even with ACPI since it's hooked into the USB ports and if it's connected to the USB 3.0 ports then it will not work. But if your laptop has USB 2.0 ports then you have a chance to use external USB mouse/keyboard combo. Also I use Das Keyboard instead of the laptop keyboard. Laptop keyboards have a very lousy orientation sometimes hitting the wrong key due to non standard layouts when they swap the keys with others you are not used to compared to standard 101 enhanced. Aside from that you will still have to deal with the laggy MS VGA standard driver as there are no working Intel HD Graphics XP drivers for laptops past Ivy Bridge. So no 3D gaming in XP will be possible. Internet surfing might be possible if you have XP drivers for the WIFI or a removable one to swap. What are your Wired Ethernet and Wireless WIFI devices called in Device Manager? Can you copy the Hardware IDs of both including the Compatible IDs, and Matching IDs and paste here? Also which onboard Audio is it? Include the Hardware IDs of both including the Compatible IDs, and Matching ID. It might be possible to get some multimedia usage out of it for internet only if you really want to use XP on a Broadwell laptop. |
| #1489 | XPLAKE8175 | I don't want to use my laptop without acpi. I want using with acpi. |
| #1490 | infuscomus | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 you should first install XP without ACPI for testing purposes once that works you can re-enable ACPI with another XP install later |
| #1491 | XPLAKE8175 | I don't want to test |
| #1492 | infuscomus | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 If you are not willing to test then there is no way we can help you |
| #1493 | XPLAKE8175 | I don't want to get help from you. |
| #1494 | XPLives | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 Zitat von ⇗ XPLAKE8175 im Beitrag ¶ #1491 If you don't test you will never find out if it works. Like I said your first complaint is you want to use the internal keyboard. But if you don't do the F7 NO ACPI test you will not find out whether or not the internal keyboard is tied to the USB 2.0 or USB 3.0 ports. If it's tied to the USB 3.0 ports then even with ACPI you are screwed and cannot use the internal keyboard. I hope you understand this reasoning. Also applying the diderius6 patch requires using a FAT32 partition because you will have to copy the acpi.sys file a few times after each reboot or it will BSOD A5 and you will think it doesn't work. Also without knowing whether you have USB 2.0 ports that can work with a USB floppy drive or USB flash drive with MSDOS 7.1 you cannot do the acpi.sys overwrite manually. If your USB 3.0 ports can do xHCI hand off and operate as USB 2.0 eHCI then you are in luck. Unfortunately since I do not own any laptop beyond Ivy Bridge I cannot tell you whether yours has real USB 2.0 ports or USB 3.0 ports or if your USB 3.0 ports can act as USB 2.0 ports. Infuscomus is correct that you need to do the F7 NO ACPI test to see if you can even get a working desktop screen and use the internal keyboard or external USB mouse. If you can't then it doesn't matter whether it's ACPI or not. Also if you are worried about laptop battery life there is no guarantee even diderius6 acpi.sys can handle sleep mode or stand by mode on laptops. I think it doesn't work on desktops at the moment but I have not tested. Shutdown does work on desktops so I assume it will also work on laptops. One final thing if you ever get this far to do the F7 NO ACPI test. I can show you how to install 32GB of RAM on the laptop. It might even be possible to use 28GB-29GB as a large Ramdrive on a Broadwell laptop in XP. |
| #1495 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives "Also applying the diderius6 patch requires using a FAT32 partition because you will have to copy the acpi.sys file a few times after each reboot or it will BSOD A5 and you will think it doesn't work." When you use RMPrepUSB v2.1.739 version and you format your harddisk in an ICY USB box, you can format it with NTFS. With this nice tool, you can also change after its formatting files as much as you want in Vista, Win7.. Dietmar |
| #1496 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1471 ⇗ |
| #1497 | XPLives |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1495 I like XP on FAT32. :) Easier to do hack tests or use with 98SE to exchange files. I used the built in 98SE DOS to go to prompt so no need for USB floppy. Then modify XP files as needed. NTFS I only use for large video files. But NTFS only required for Vista+ which is a shame. Would be nice to install Vista or W7 clean onto FAT32 partition. |
| #1498 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6 Forgot to tell you, I've managed to patch the DSDT of my Z370 to be fully compatible with XP. No patched ACPI.SYS here. Do you have any interest? I can patch the DSDT table of your board if you want, there are several changes to explain here, nothing to do with the eVGA's Z390 XP BIOS. |
| #1499 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k Of course I want to know. I also think, that it is very interesting here for a lot of people. I hope, that you have time and mood to write a Tutorial, Dietmar PS: I succeed to mod the Bios of my Asus Apex X board. Now I have really full USB support! |
| #1500 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives Long time ago I wrote Tutorial how to install Vista on Fat32 partition Dietmar ⇗ https://msfn.org/board/topic/102556-how-...at32-partition/ |
| #1501 | diderius6 | The flash of the modded Bios for the Asus Apex X was not easy. I downloaded from webside the Bios version 1704, which works also for the 9900k, despite Asus tells there. I delete with UEFI-Tool the Cap of this Bios. Then with Uefi-tool I changed dsdt against my modded one. But when I try to flash this Bios with Intel flash tool FPTw.exe -bios -f modbiosfilenamehere.bin it tells me, that it is not allowed^^ to flash this Bios. Ok, I try direct Bios flashback on this nice board, renaming my Bios file to the wished M10A.CAP name. Does not work. Then I use the original Bios 1704 from Asus website and change there with Uefi-tool the DSDT to my modded one. This time, I do not touch the CAP header of this crazy Bios. Then I make a new try for to flash via Bios flashback, compi is not on, only power is connected. This time it works Dietmar PS: As you can see, now ALL USB ports work on this board. And pur USB boot from XP SP3 works on the Asus Apex X now for the very first time! ⇗ ![]() |
| #1502 | cedar | ⇗ @daniel_k I absolutely thrilled if you can patch my Asus Prime B350 Plus of its the DSDT to be fully compatible with XP. Or my Gigabyte Ivy D3-P75 to use usb 3.0. I have lot of problems install XP on my Asus Prime B350. Although win2003 works. That would be great news for many users. If patched, since it does not need acpi.sys. Can XP64 be installed as well?. Cedar |
| #1503 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1500 Ah... I was hoping you found a new way to install from scratch directly to FAT32 from optical disc install. Your method involves copying files after installation from NTFS partition. If you can use a NTFS to FAT32 partition conversion program that would probably do the same? But still nice that Vista can work on FAT32 after all that work as it should and Windows 7 should as well. Now how to force NTFS check to be disabled for Vista / Windows 7 fresh optical disc installation from the beginning? Even XP POS 2009 forces NTFS installation partition and no longer supports installation to FAT32 and forces to partition 1 so you can't install multiple times to different partitions like XP. |
| #1504 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1499 Using your modified BIOS for USB 3.0 can you test if you install XP in MPS Mode or Standard PC (NO ACPI) without using your acpi.sys does the USB 3.0 still function correctly? |
| #1505 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6 Take a look at the tables. Included is the table of BIOS 4.00, I've already modded it before I realized you were on BIOS 3.20. daniel_k has attached files to this post |
| #1506 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLives "Using your modified BIOS for USB 3.0 can you test if you install XP in MPS Mode or Standard PC (NO ACPI) without using your acpi.sys does the USB 3.0 still function correctly?" Yes, I just test this. It works in "MPS" and in "ACPI Multiprocessor" mode of XP SP3 also on the Apex X board. Dietmar |
| #1507 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 Could you please test Xp64 as well? Edit: Nevermind. I was having too much hopes. Cedar |
| #1508 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6 Here is the DSDT table of your ROG MAXIMUS X APEX 1704. Interesting, the ASUS BIOS is almost 100% XP compatible. Check it out. daniel_k has attached files to this post |
| #1509 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ cedar im Beitrag ¶ #1502 Ryzen has other issues, don't think we can simply patch the ACPI table. |
| #1510 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k "Here is the DSDT table of your ROG MAXIMUS X APEX 1704. Interesting, the ASUS BIOS is almost 100% XP compatible. Check it out." Yes, I know this. The board Apex IX before was full XP compatibel from beginning. And the acpi.sys from Vista-Longhorn 5048 works on ROG MAXIMUS X APEX 1704 without any mod. But on direct install with normal Acpi.sys from XP I get BSOD A5 (0x11,..) so I have until now to use my modded acpi.sys from december 2018 Dietmar PS: So, for me it is very strange, why the asl Tool shows BSOD A5 on this board. |
| #1511 | asasin | hello again Would you advise something on the main board asus h110m-a / m.2? I still have the same problem with usb. |
| #1512 | cedar | ⇗ @daniel_k So even the bios modded could not save XP64!. What is the difference between ⇗ @diderius6 's Acpi.sys modded and the Bios modded? Cedar |
| #1513 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k How can you fix so quick a DSDT table? I need for this whole day.. By the way: For you, to make your life easier, update the iasl tool. * Compiler Version 0x20160422 (538313762) The messages about unknown dependencies are complete gone with newer version Dietmar PS: And thank you a lot! EDIT: I just notice, that XP support for this iasl.exe is gone. So I add the last version from iasl.exe, which supports XP. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1514 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1513 Thanks. I know that IASL is updated frequently. For compatibility reasons, I usually like to compile the table with the same version used to build the original, as you should know, the BIOS updates certain variables in the ACPI tables. |
| #1515 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1510 How do you create your modded acpi.sys? Are you using XP's acpi.sys original file and hex mod? Can you use Windows 2000's acpi.sys file instead for full forward compatibility will all NT5.X versions? If not I will help to remake from scratch if I know how you did the XP version. Also need to disable or reassign default IRQs for devices detected. Any ideas to free IRQ6 from FDC? |
| #1516 | XPLAKE8175 | But Vista does not get this A5 error message. |
| #1517 | XPLAKE8175 | My laptop is ASUS too and why I'm getting A5 error on Windows XP but not Vista. |
| #1518 | XPLAKE8175 | How did you get ACPI on the Latest Gen i9? |
| #1519 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 that HWID PCI\VEN_1912&DEV_0014 doesn't match the HWID I get in virtualbox - I get PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E31 |
| #1520 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ XPLives im Beitrag ¶ #1515 ⇗ @XPLives We used acpi.sys of Vista beta 5048 because it includes new acpi words like CreateQWordField that are not present in 2000/XP acpi.sys |
| #1521 | XPLAKE8175 | OK, I will try adding the new acpi words to XP x86 and x64 acpi from Vista x86 and Vista x64. Vista ACPI works on my broadwell laptop. |
| #1522 | XPLAKE8175 | It finishes to desktop without errors with MPS multiprocessor. |
| #1523 | XPLAKE8175 | I can disable XHCI preboot mode from bios without bricking BIOS and I can enable Launch CSM setting from BIOS. |
| #1524 | XPLAKE8175 | How can I patch my DSDT table on my ASUS k555lb laptop without bricking my bios? |
| #1525 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 There is still a risk, even when you have flashed 100 Bios. When you have no experience with Bios mod it is a big risk and I would do NOT! Dietmar |
| #1526 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I just install your nice USB driver without any Bios mod on the EVGA z390 dark board. This is only possible, because its Bios does not contain the Device (xhc). Oho, there is a motherboard manufactor with Intel chipset, who is not slave of Intel Dietmar PS: And for the very first time I can boot XP direct from USB on this nice EVGA z390 dark board !⇗
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| #1527 | XPLAKE8175 | OK, I will install with your acpi.sys |
| #1528 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus "that HWID PCI\VEN_1912&DEV_0014 doesn't match the HWID I get in virtualbox - I get PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E31" There are some synonyme in VEN_&DEV_ for an absolut identic device Dietmar |
| #1529 | diderius6 | Crazy, even the EVGA z390 dark board crashes with BSOD A5 when I upload via asl.exe its own DSDT. So, this tool has a major problem with ACPI on newer boards Dietmar |
| #1530 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 even if the device is a synonym - I still get code 39 ⇗ ⇗ ⇗ |
| #1531 | XPLAKE8175 | ⇗ @diderius6 Can I test your modded acpi.sys on my asus k555lb i5 5200u laptop? If it works, may your acpi.sys brick my bios? If I still get ACPI A5 error, I'll send you an error message with error image and error description. I know laptop bios is more vulnerable to brick than desktop bios. |
| #1532 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus This is not the Renesas driver from my post 1367 Dietmar PS: You can try a change by hand in xhci.inf to %PCI\VEN_1912&DEV_0014&REV_01.DeviceDesc% = RUSB3XHC, PCI\CC_0C03 |
| #1533 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 No, the modded acpi.sys does nothing with Bios. This was the reason, why we make it Dietmar PS: When you get BSOD A5 you can try this acpi.sys. This was my first from December 2018. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1534 | XPLAKE8175 | OK, I will try. |
| #1535 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 yes, i have tried the renesas driver, as well as VIA, Etron, TI, and AMD I have also tried that INF mod all give code 39 in virtualbox 5.2 (last 32bit version) I will boot into 64bit windows to install 6.0 64bit and see if that works |
| #1536 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1526 Can you try 2 things for me please? - Renesas driver, if it has the same device detection issue or works fine with the proper eVGA XP BIOS. - Standby/sleep works maybe or even hibernation, I'm really curious about them. |
| #1537 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1535 Here I'm running VirtualBox 6.0.10, maybe this is the reason it works fine? |
| #1538 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k Most modify usb driver can use on VM, but real machine can not. |
| #1539 | infuscomus | ⇗ @daniel_k ⇗ @diderius6 So I upgraded virtualbox to 6.0 I still get code 39 maybe it's because my host machine is AMD ryzen? |
| #1540 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I succeed to start the Renesas USB3 driver on the EVGA board, but behavior is exact like before. You have to deinstall the xhci.sys driver and in about each 3. attempt you succeed that all the other Hubs are loaded and the USB devices can be used. If the other Hubs are not loaded, the message "unknown device" appears for each USB device. The same is true for reboot, no USB device starts. On the Asrock k6 board I succeeded with the Renesas driver in full ACPI, that after reboot the USB devices are correct recogniced but this was unstable. Sleeping or Hibernation does not work. XP starts with this, the monitor and harddisk went off. But then a message appears, that the driver for Acpi sleeping does not work correct and XP starts at once to active mode again Dietmar PS: In Hibernation, the compi went down (shuts not complete off), but does not awake again . |
| #1541 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus What happens, when you use the driver from post 1095 Dietmar |
| #1542 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1539 Possibly yes. Don't you have an Intel based system to try it? |
| #1543 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 using driver from post 1095, the controller start but hub fails with code 39 |
| #1544 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1540 Thanks for trying. That's a pity it doesn't work. At least I'm not missing anything. ![]() |
| #1545 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ daniel_k im Beitrag ¶ #1542 ⇗ @daniel_k I have an older Z97 system i'm not using at the moment, i'll have to setup XP on it which driver should I test on it first? |
| #1546 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1545Zitat von ⇗ daniel_k im Beitrag ¶ #1542 If there is an OS installed and running fine, try VirtualBox with the oficial Renesas driver. Otherwise, install XP as usual before messing with USB 3.0 drivers. |
| #1547 | cedar | ⇗ @infuscomus As I tried daniel_k AMD-final driver again today on 64 bit XP. I did get code 39. It was tried on my Ivy board. I also got code 10 on usb3 root hub and code 28 on controller upon reboots at different time. It was all tested on real XP64. The 32bit ver. did not installed at all. We still have a long way to go. Cedar |
| #1548 | asasin | How does the "xhci hand-off" option work in bios? I made a flash bios to an earlier version and this option appeared to me. My tests have shown that changing this option does nothing. Any ideas? |
| #1549 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @daniel_k I tried virtualbox 6.0 on my intel system, same result as before - code 39 (either on the controller, or the hub, depending on the driver) I'll install XP natively andd see what result I get |
| #1550 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1549 Did you follow the instructions outlined in the VB's forum? ⇗ https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=74575 |
| #1551 | infuscomus |
Zitat von ⇗ daniel_k im Beitrag ¶ #1550 ⇗ @daniel_k Thanks, I actually didn't know about this - I thought the emulated intel USB 3.0 was the only option. So this changes the emulated USB 3.0 controller from an intel to a Renesas? |
| #1552 | diderius6 | I changed GbE region in Bios in the Asus Apex X board with Lan i219-V against the GbE region in Bios from Asus Z87I-PRO with Lan i217-V with the Uefi-tool. But nothing changed. The Lan is still shown as VEN_8086&DEV_15B8 which is i219-V as before Dietmar PS: May be, here is a fundamental missunderstanding. When I change in the *.inf file against the one for i217-V I get code 10, exact as before. And Win7 32 bit starts happy again with its i219-V driver for VEN_8086&DEV_15B8. |
| #1553 | daniel_k | ⇗ @infuscomus, yes it changes the chipset emulated to a Renesas one. After trying this, if possible, would be great if you could test any of the USB3 drivers and see if it Works with your Z97 board. |
| #1554 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1552 Try this. |
| #1555 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k Gives also code 10. What did you change and do you think, there is any chance to mod this? Do you know something about GbE region? I tried also the UBU tool UBU_v1_74_0_3 but no information which can help there Dietmar PS: The output from the UBU tool before mod and after is to 100% identic. Comparing the both Bios (Original 1704 and after Mod 1704) shows with Beyondcompare 2 (minimal) differences, very first in the beginning. The rest of the Bios are complete identic. This code 10 remembers me a lot at code 10 for USB3 before^^. May be, Intel set this device also to sleep in Bios via 64 bit entries for variables. Do you know the name of the lan Device () in DSDT? |
| #1556 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k For to test my idea, I just boot Apex X in "MPS" mode. Oha, suddently the network i219-v is recogniced as i217-v version 2, installs correct, but on reboot again code 10. So, the Bios mod changed something into the right direction, question is about this version 2 Dietmar Edit: I just see with Ida Pro, that beside *.inf mod you also changed the ID number in e1d5132.sys. But in the original file, the ID 1559h appears at 3 places, and you changed only one place. EDIT2: I change ID 1559h => 15B8h with Winhex at all its three places in e1d5132.sys. But this does not help, still code 10. When I delete this lan driver in device manager, now always comes the message, that a new device is found i217-V, its crazy. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1557 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Replace GBE, you need to flash the bios with flashback or flash burner. Another is you can compare 219-V GBE and 217-V GBE, find the difference and modify the 219-V GBE. |
| #1558 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong "Replace GBE, you need to flash the bios with flashback" I used the Bios flashback on the Asus Apex X board. Do you mean a special program and why you need this. And how can I compare this 2 files? I put them here, Dietmar EDIT: Is it because normally only the Bios-region is flashed? But the downloaded Bios file from Website contain its own correct GbE? EDIT2: Now I think, my GbE files are just nearly empty, right? I have to use the whole Bios content from both compi, extract its GbE and then change? This would mean, I need another real Compi or full Bios with i217-V in its Bios. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1559 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 219-v: F4 18 00 0A 43 08 13 01 B7 15 AD BA B7 15 B8 15 is dev id 15B7 217-v: F4 18 00 0A 43 08 13 01 3B 15 AD BA 3B 15 3B 15 is dev id 153B What happen you replace the 217 GBE? POST your need bios and a bios has a 217-V/LM from the same brand. I help you to modify it. |
| #1560 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Thanks a lot:))! When I change this 2 Hexvalues in my own 219-v GbE and load it up again to my own Bios with Uefi-Tool, than it is flashed to compi with normal Bios Flashback? Interesting, what happend, because I changed whole GbE with i219 against Gbe with i217 on my Asus Apex X Bios Dietmar PS: I still do not understand this procedure: I just see, that those ID appear more than one time in this Hexvalues. Which of them is the correct one? Have I to change them all? Or is it only one time direct after the Hexvalues 13 01? |
| #1561 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Flash it. ⇗ https://yadi.sk/d/KFetwSwt-_mSGw |
| #1562 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Thank you. But it looks not as easy. 45 regions are different in this 2 Bios files. Because I have 1704 Bios version, which is even modded with DSDT table for Intel USB, I need to understand, how this works Dietmar |
| #1563 | canonkong | @ diderius6 217/218/129 series of network cards are incomplete, just a PHY, you can regard GBE as the firmware of this PHY, replacing GBE is like replacing the firmware of network cards. Device ID and MAC address are determined by GBE. |
| #1564 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong This is a very good explanation from you! I just extracted the GBE from those 2 Bios files, that you send to me. They are 100% identic to my 2 GBE files. So, why does it not work for me? When I flash this Bios, is the GBE also flashed or only the Bios region Dietmar PS: When the GBE region would be also flashed, my Mac etc. would be gone. |
| #1565 | canonkong | @ diderius6 GBE is similar to ME and has high permissions. Generally, a burner is needed to burn BIOS. |
| #1566 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Ok, this I understand. I have good Eprom flasher. So, when I want to keep all my informations as Mac etc. is there a way just to change the needed values for to go from i219 => i217 ? Or is the rest really like firmware, so I have to burn the whole package at once? And then later put my Mac etc. back into Bios by hand? Dietmar PS: By the way, now I understand what happens during my Bios flash. The whole GBE region is complete ignored from compis Biosflashback, it copied only the Bios-region, so I just changed to an 100% identic Bios. |
| #1567 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Yse, use HxD open GBE, the first line 88 88 88..., use MAC replace it and save. |
| #1568 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Thanks a lot, I understand everything. I do not know anybody, who succeeds to change his 219-V => 217-V. But always somebody will do it first, why not me ![]() Dietmar PS: The funny thing in this is, I have the mainboard ASUS Z87I-Pro with whole Bios with i217-V. So a make a try, to understand which parts are really needed to be copied, away from Uefi-tool. |
| #1569 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6 In DSDT, the LAN is Device (GLAN). About the driver, many Intel devices are identical, just different IDs. For each "group" of devices, there are 2 sets of "presets". Open e1d6232_Win7.sys and search for B8 15 (15B8), you'll find:
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| #1570 | daniel_k | Here is another try. |
| #1571 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k Yes, I understand everything. If there are no other differences between those i219 and i217 it will work. Oh, nice so much help, also to ⇗ @canonkong! I will test both methods, but now I am sure we get it to work. And I know, there are a lot of other users, who go away from XP because no USB and no Internet any longer Dietmar |
| #1572 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k On "MPS" and on ACPI Multiprocessor again code 10. Question is, if the drivers for i217 and i219 even for Win7 are a little bit different. I think yes. And so, the way via firmware change in Bios may be the easier way. Question in this is only, if those 2 physical devices (called i217 and i219) are identic Dietmar PS: And still remains (because of code 10) the possibility, that Device GLAN is killed somewhere in DSDT for newer Bios via Intel for XP. Now I am tired and 4 hours after midnight here in germany:))! But tomorrow.. |
| #1573 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k A test for to check the driver compatibility is, if a real i219 device can run under Win7 with a modded (for i219) i217 driver from Win7 Dietmar EDIT: For Win7, the i217 and i219 appear for the very first time together in the Intel driver package Intel® Netzwerk Adapter-Treiber für Windows 7 * Version: 21.0 (Zuvor veröffentlicht) Datum: 23.05.2016 And in the other package is the very first driver for Intel i217-V for Win7 32 bit. If THIS driver can be modded for to support i219 on Win7, than XP i219 should be possible. This driver is from Intel 18.4. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1574 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I make a check between the GBE for Bios 1704 from Asus Apex X website and my GBE direct from Compi. Ok, in the very first Bytes I see the MAC and I also noted, that the Hex values for i219 F4 18 00 0A 43 08 13 01 B7 15 AD BA B7 15 B8 15 appear a second time only in GBE from compi. Not so many differences, so it can be done by hand with Winhex Dietmar PS: Now it is the turn, to find all this differences direct in the HEX file of outread Bios from my Apex X with Epromer and change to the wished owns. The same I do for the Asus Bios of my real board Bios ASUS Z87I-Pro. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1575 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong ⇗ @daniel_k I flashed the whole GBE region from Bios of real Compi Asus z87i-Pro to the Bios 1704 GBE region of the Apex X board. Now appears at start the message PXE-E04: Error reading PCI configuration space. The network card is now indeed shown as i217-V and with VEN_8086&DEV_153B but with yellow exclamation mark and code 10. Dietmar PS: Everything other on Apex X board seems to work normal. |
| #1576 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1575 Perhaps you've changed too much? Attach the old and the new GBE region here. Can the device ID be found in the GBE region? |
| #1577 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 PXE need to replace the lom, use uefitool. |
| #1578 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I make a new try, where I only change at its 4 places in my original Apex X GBE B815 => 3B15 (like ID hack in drivers). But exact the message at boot appears PXE-E04: Error reading PCI configuration space. The lan device is again shown as i217-V code 10 under Win7 and the same in XP. ⇗ @canonkong "PXE need to replace the lom, use uefitool." This message ist to short for me, I dont understand. |
| #1579 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Use uefitool serch B8 15, find out this block, and path it out. Use UBU SetDevID to change lom dev_ID, than use this modify lom to replace it back. |
| #1580 | kukonosau | Do you have ACPI for Windows XP x64 for Ryzen? Windows XP is no laggind in game with Ryzen and graphics card, for example 980 Ti? |
| #1581 | diderius6 | ⇗ @kukonosau Until now is no good acpi.sys for XP 64 on the market. For me, everything works ok with Ryzen and gtx 980 under XP 32 bit Dietmar |
| #1582 | kukonosau | Games is no lagging? How to working Windows XP in Ryzen 3 2200G with graphics card 9th series? My motherboard is ASUS AM4 B350 PRIME B350M-K. If buy fraphics card 9th series can I play computer games in Windows XP? I have 1050 Ti, but I haven't drivers for 10th series. |
| #1583 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong The problem is, that the Hexvalues B8 15 appear at a lot of places, when I search with Uefi tool. And which Bios file should I search? The modded one or the original one with DEV_15B8 ? Is it in GBE region Dietmar Can the words PXE, LOM help me for search? PXE-E04: Error reading PCI configuration space. This message is displayed if any of the PCI BIOS calls made to read the PCI configuration space return an error code. I flashed my own original GBE region from Apex board back. Now this errormessage is gone but again the networkdevice i219-V is shown (works only under Win7). |
| #1584 | skullteria | My version of acpi.sys from 5048 is not a good option? On my system (skylake, core i7 6700k and motherboard ) work fine! |
| #1585 | skullteria |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1581 My version of acpi.sys from 5048 is not a good option? On my system (skylake, core i7 6700k and motherboard ) work fine! |
| #1586 | diderius6 | ⇗ @skullteria We have only the 32 bit version from this acpi.sys 5048 Dietmar PS: And for Ryzen, the hack from infuscomus has also to be done on the acpi.sys 5048 64 bit. |
| #1587 | diderius6 | The question is, if the message PXE-E04: Error reading PCI configuration space. stops the lan from working or not. It is shown in device manager as i217-V with correct changed ID. May be it is just a message, this would mean, that i217 and i219 are different in hardware and the driver for pur i217 cant run on i219, because also Win7 showes code 10 on i219 => i217 modded device Dietmar |
| #1588 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1587 PXE is actuallly an option ROM, read this: ⇗ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment Usually used on diskless systems, boots an OS by loading its files remotely from a connected network. I think those models are just too diferent for it to work. |
| #1589 | daniel_k | Try this modded driver, recommened with a BIOS with original GBE region. If this doesn't work, it is very unlikely it ever will. |
| #1590 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I found the lan chip on the nice Asus z87i-Pro board. From this board I know, that i217 works for XP and Win7. Intel® Ethernet Controller I217V Consumer LAN product with support for Energy Efficient Ethernet (802.3AZ)1, Intel® Standard Manageablity, ACBS and standard Gigabit networking features Intended for mobile, desktop, and embedded design WGI217V Dietmar EDIT: The i219-V is integrated in the Intel® Z370 Chipset. So, the hardware is different. EDIT2: BUT Key Details Design is Highly Compatible with the Intel® 82579 GbE Controller The Intel® Ethernet Controller I217 is highly compatible with the Intel® 82579 GbE Controller, making new designs easy to generate while gaining the improvements of features now available on the Intel® Ethernet Controller I217. ⇗ ![]() |
| #1591 | skullteria |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1586 Here version x64 skullteria has attached files to this post |
| #1592 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong After loong search I think I found the wished part via Uefi tool looking in whole Bios. I look for a header with Hex 55 AA 87 E8. It is only in GUID: A0327FE0-1FDA-4E5B-905D-B510C45A61D0 and there only in Subtype GUID: 50339D20-C90A-4BB2-9AFF-D8A11B23BC15 I extracted the body of this subguide with Uefi Tool and name it otto.bin. There I found words Intel R) Boot Agent .. Then I type in commandline (path to UBU) C:\SetDevID 153B otto.bin ottoModID.bin and a message tells, that this ID was set. With Winhex I take a look what changed. I see, that the DEV_15B8 => DEV_153B as wished. Now I flash this back to Bios and we will see Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #1593 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Good, you found the right way. if i217 can not work try i218 or other phy GBE. |
| #1594 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I tested your new driver with original Bios 1704 From Apex X board under Win7. Yes, nice idea to test, if this driver pur i217-V, can be modded to support also i219-V. It is necessary, because if this does not work, something other is in the way and I would also say incompatible hardware. During install after about 1 min the compi gets frozen, so it is not so easy to say what is going on Dietmar |
| #1595 | XPLives | ⇗ @diderius6 Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1594 I don't think this method is worth the effort. It's possible the chipset is different that even tricking the hardware to appear as i217-V when it is really i219-V if the chips are different then the driver itself still can't function with it. Only Intel has knowledge of their own chips or the company who made the chips could make a new XP driver for i219-V. This is probably the same reason why Intel HD Graphics 4200 cannot use Intel HD Graphics 4000 XP driver. Possibly the chips are different enough that the code is specific. But probably easiest is the Hardware ID substitution test without going into the BIOS. It is much easier to just spend $5 to get Realtek 8111E PCIe network card and just use PCIe x1 tiny slot. Or get USB 3.0 card and use USB ethernet or USB wifi adapter if sacrificing just one internal PCIe x1 slot in order to use XP. Then add USB Audio and you got sound. Graphics card still requires another PCIe slot that can't be helped. At most two PCIe slots will be needed for full XP functionality. In the future Ice Lake and Tiger Lake those onBoard network will be i220-V+ and more foreign. USB 3.X may change to USB 4.0 but hopefully not or only if backward compatible to USB 3.0 then driver can still work. USB 3.0 cards will be the only path forward for easy USB network, USB audio, USB keyboard, and USB mouse if no more PS/2 ports. |
| #1596 | infuscomus | ⇗ @XPLives PCI-E usb 2.0 cards are still a possibility for XP if you need guaranteed USB for XP ⇗ https://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-to-PCI-...lEAAOSwaBZZmNXa The following contents have been linked to this post: |
| #1597 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong ⇗ @daniel_k I flashed the whole Bios to the Asus Apex X board after integrating all changes from @canonkong. But the message about PXE stays the same and also the now as i217-V shown lan device has yellow exclamationmark in XP and in Win7 and does not work (each code 10). I tried a lot before I succeed to flash this Bios chip in a whole. From all the Epromers I have, only Revelprog IS works via the TPI socket with my own build adapter (see photo). The Epromer can only work, after I connect the normal power supply to the board (board not startet). The CPU, RAM and Bios battery stay all in the board. So, there seems to be hardware differences between the i217 and i219 Dietmar ⇗ ![]() ⇗ ![]() |
| #1598 | diderius6 | I just noticed, that the Hex values B8 15 for the old Lan i219-V still remains in Guid 4953F720-006D-41F5-990D-0AC7742ABB60 and there only in PE32 section of its Subguide EE4E5898-3914-4259-9D6E-DC7BD79403CF And the message abbout PXE has not only to do with PXE: PXE-E04: Error reading PCI configuration space. The Boot Agent cannot continue. PCI configuration space could not be read. Machine is probably not PCI compliant. The Boot Agent was unable to read one or more of the adapter's PCI configuration registers. The adapter may be mis-configured, or the wrong Boot Agent image may be installed on the adapter. The Boot Agent will return control to the BIOS and not attempt to remote boot. Try to update the flash image. If this does not solve the problem, contact your system administrator or Customer Support. This means: When the lan adapter is misconfigurated, this message appears also Dietmar EDIT: Problem in this is only, that B8 15 appears at 5 places. And the UBU tool does not work for this. |
| #1599 | infuscomus | The latest Intel networking driver I can find for XP is 12.7.28 The first version that supports 217 is 12.8.33 - according to daniel_k they are only a few months apart I don't know if this can be hacked to work infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #1600 | cedar | ⇗ @skullteria I tried your acpi 64. Unfortunately, it bsod 7E on Ryzen. |
| #1601 | cedar | With further tests, my Mboard seems to work with usb3.0. Thanks to daniel_k ,canonkong ,diderius6's great efforts. Seem stable at the moment, if not, I can always go back to the Mediasonic PCIe usb3.0 card. ⇗ https://www.amazon.ca/Mediasonic-HP1-SU3-USB-Express-Card/dp/B003X26VVO |
| #1602 | diderius6 | ⇗ @cedar On which board USB3 works for you now Dietmar |
| #1603 | cedar | ⇗ @diderius6 Ivy Gigabyte D3-P75. |
| #1604 | diderius6 | ⇗ @skullteria "I tried your acpi 64. Unfortunately, it bsod 7E on Ryzen." The last hack (only this makes Ryzen work with Acpi) from ⇗ @infuscomus and me is not integrated in this 64 bit version I think Dietmar |
| #1605 | cedar | @ diderius6 I tried your and infuscomus 64 bit version too. Don't remember if it was B7 or A5. |
| #1606 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 when you have time to test, can you test the driver I posted? - post #1599 (it needs an INF mod) |
| #1607 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Soon I will test your driver, after I did Bios Mod. Because now I have full, easy to handle Eprom possibility for the Asus Apex X board, I use it ..So, I just did the following: With UEFI tool I copied the whole Intel Gigabyte Lan file *.ffs from GUIDE 4953F720-006D-41F5-990D-0AC7742ABB60 of the Asus z87i-Pro board Bios and replace with it the same one in the Apex X Bios. So the problem is gone, how I can change there the DEV_ numbers for lan. But maybe the DEV_ number for lan is still stored in the Bios at other places. But it is a try and I think, compi will start Dietmar |
| #1608 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 actually this driver i think might be better choice found here - ⇗ https://msfn.org/board/topic/176687-seac...comment=1162644 e1d5132 - XP driver for 218-V infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #1609 | diderius6 | "With UEFI tool I copied the whole Intel Gigabyte Lan file *.ffs from GUIDE 4953F720-006D-41F5-990D-0AC7742ABB60 of the Asus z87i-Pro board Bios and replace with it the same one in the Apex X Bios." Ok, this does not change anything. PXE-04 message again and again yellow questionmark for the now "i217-V" in the device manager under XP and Win7, all driver tested, Dietmar EDIT: I flashed all back to my original, own Bios with DSDT mod for USB3. Now the lan device is shown again as i219-V, works under Win7 and XP shows yellow exclamationmark. |
| #1610 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus Easy *.inf mod does not help in XP for lan i219-V with driver bearwindows 808615A1_x86.7z.zip. It installs and shows then code 10 Dietmar PS: I modded this driver from Bearwind in exact the same way as he did, 6 places different, just edit *.inf file and A115 (i218-V2) => B815 (i219-V2) and checksum. In XP and in Win7 this driver is loaded, but then again in both code 10. This means: The hardware for i217, i218 is compatible but not with i219. |
| #1611 | diderius6 | In 2016, they also cant start the i219 driver in Linux. "The e1000e driver is the one that can run the I2xx intel Ethernet Controllers. And the latest e1000e driver (as of this writing) is capable of running the I219 chip. The The NVM Checksum Is Not Valid message during boot is what was preventing the older drivers from being loaded. On other OSes (notably MS windows) that error is ignored. But Linux appears to be stricter. NVM is a ROM (read only memory) in the chip, which undergoes a checksum, and the older version of the e1000 driver was not aware of the NVM contents of the newer chips. Since the card works on other OSes that ignore the error another possibility could have been to force the driver to ignore the error." Dietmar |
| #1612 | diderius6 | ⇗ @AddFun do you get my message Dietmar |
| #1613 | AddFun | Thanks! |
| #1614 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Did you try i218 GBE? Or used ID replace to test it? |
| #1615 | XPLAKE8175 | ⇗ @diderius6 Your ACPI.sys gives the 0x00000D1 BSOD after txt mode. ACPI and ACPI Multiprocessor gives the same error. |
| #1616 | XPLAKE8175 | Advanced error information is: ACPI.sys - Address F7359AB6 base at F7346000, Datestamp 424d8208 |
| #1617 | XPLAKE8175 | Now I'm installing XP in a fat formatted drive on same laptop |
| #1618 | diderius6 | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 The BSOD 0x000000D1 acpi.sys happens, because a PCI device is not handled correct from acpi.sys. "The Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) BIOS on this computer contains a namespace object that is not a PCI device. However, Windows assumes that the device is a PCI device incorrectly. Therefore, if Windows tries to access the PCI configuration space for the device, you receive a "STOP 0x000000D1" error message. This issue occurs because of an error in the Acpi.sys system driver. The Acpi.sys system driver returns an incorrect flag that causes the device to be regarded as a PCI device instead of a child of the PCI bus. Therefore, the device may not function correctly when the operating system tries to access it by using a special function." Disable all devices in Bios, that you dont need for install Dietmar PS: When this BSOD appears after XP install, it can help when you boot the compi in Safe Mode (F8) because then only important drivers are loaded. |
| #1619 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong i218 I do not test until now. When I change only the DEV_15B8 => DEV_153B in GBE ( means i219-V => i217-V) at once after reboot appears the message about PXE 4 error, which means, that the original ID is safed at other place(s?) in Bios too Dietmar |
| #1620 | infuscomus | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 Do you get D1 BSOD during textmode setup? or after reboot? |
| #1621 | diderius6 | From Intel itself: "Design is Highly Compatible with the Intel® I218 Ethernet Connection: The Intel® Ethernet Connection I219 is highly compatible with the Intel® Ethernet Connection I218, making new designs easy to generate while gaining the improvements of features now available on the Intel® Ethernet Controller I219." Hm, so next try with i219 => i218 Dietmar EDIT: In porting the i219 to Mac OS, all the devices i217, i218, i219 look very similar. ⇗ https://github.com/al3xtjames/IntelMausi...0(original).cpp |
| #1622 | diderius6 | I have the board Asus Z97-DELUXE/USB 3.1 which has the i218-V chip, so next test extracting whole real GBE from Z97 board and flash to the Apex X board i219-V => i218-V can start Dietmar PS: By the way I noticed, that Intel sells the chip WGI219V also as extra device in the same package size. ⇗ ![]() |
| #1623 | diderius6 | Ok, exact the same happens as before. After changing the whole GBE region first appears the PXE-4 error, than under Win7 and XP yellow exclamationmark with code 10, now for lan device i218-V (DEV_15A1) which is exact the device for what the bearwind driver XP was modded for Dietmar PS: The only(?) problem seems to be this errormessage PXE-4. |
| #1624 | diderius6 | I just notice, that with RW-Everything you can EDIT the pci configuration space of the i219-v tomorrow I try Dietmar ⇗ ![]() |
| #1625 | canonkong | ⇗ @diderius6 Use UEFITOOL open your needed bios, search 42 6F 6F 74 20 41 67 65 6E 74, find it out and right click mouse than Extract Body, use SetDevID to midify the ID, than replace it back the same place. Save the bios. When you finish this, use UBU to checksum the bios first than you can flash it. I think you meet PXE erro, maybe you have not checksum the bios. My board with i219-v repalce i219-LM, work very well. ⇗ http://uploadoss.smxdiy.com/forum/201802/08/135216l6gt77a2fx71f967.png ⇗ http://uploadoss.smxdiy.com/forum/201802/08/143055ilplgvwbdp6lbn15.png |
| #1626 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I just extract with Uefitool this file you told me to look for. When I compare it with Winhex I found, that it is exact the file, that I extracted 2 days before and where I use SetDevID from UBU on it. And this I flashed back, Dietmar PS: Yes, I have not tested checksum. But I think, that in the PCI space the nic still tells, that it has the device ID from before. |
| #1627 | XPLAKE8175 | ⇗ @infuscomus after reboot. I get this error by installing XP on NTFS |
| #1628 | infuscomus | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 There is a backup copy of acpi.sys located in SP3.CAB and/or DRIVER.CAB - check both extract the CAB file with 7zip into a separate folder replace original acpi.sys with patched version download cabpack 1.4 - ⇗ https://www.techspot.com/downloads/7104-cabpack.html re-compress CAB file and replace the old one rebuild XP ISO with nlite |
| #1629 | XPLAKE8175 | I installed XP without external devices except usb and it reached to the GUI mode |
| #1630 | XPLAKE8175 | PC copied the modded acpi. |
| #1631 | XPLAKE8175 | Now I got to the GUI mode. After GUI mode it gives the pre-text mode A5 error. |
| #1632 | infuscomus | ⇗ @XPLAKE8175 BSOD A5 D1 same as before? can you post a checksum of your acpi.sys in XP /windows/system32/drivers |
| #1633 | XPLAKE8175 | I installed XP successfully. Now I'm installing Windows 10 alongside windows XP. ACPI detects my battery life successfully. There is one problem that I can't hibernate Windows XP |
| #1634 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong Even I try everything, to mod correct the device i219-V => i218-V this does not work. I get the same error message at boottime after flashing whole Bios with nice Epromer Revelprog IS PXE-E04: Error reading PCI configuration space. I updated via UBU tool everything for lan, UBU tool tells always success. The checksums are all ok. This seems to be a hardware problem, but I think it is only one thing, which device "i218-V" is asked for, but correct answer can give only i219-V. Here I notice (see below) that there are a lot of 0x00000000 which are filled with other numbers at the other nic on this board 5 Gigabit LAN AQUANTIA AQC108. I also noticed with RW-everything (PCI), that the DEV_ ID has changed to the wished value VEN_8086&DEV_15A1 (i218-V (vers2)). So, on PCI space now this DEV ID is used, but does not help. Here is the text from RW everything about this "i218-V" nic now ;Bus 00, Device 1F, Function 06 - Intel Corporation Ethernet Controller Dietmar |
| #1635 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 just curious, does the most recent version XP driver in post #1599 work? or code 10? |
| #1636 | diderius6 | ⇗ @canonkong I did the following: In this modded Bios I only change GBE against my original GBE (i219-v) and reboot. No message about PXE 4 error now and internet works in Win7 (shows i219 device). This simply means, it is enough to mod the *.gbe region. Ok, next test, I change in my original *.gbe region only at 4 places ID B815 => A115 Again message PXE 4 error, device "i218" is shown, not works. Hm, this time I think, the checksum of *.gbe is not correct. But I have no idea, how to fix its checksum. I would be happy, if somebody here can fix the checksum for this *.gbe file for me Dietmar EDIT: Seems, that i219 has other hardware than i218, despite what Intel says. i218-V and i219-V are not compatible. EDIT2: I test the same on the Asrock k6 board. It has i211 and i219-V nics. After changing its GBE against the one from the z97 board (i218-V) no error message appears, but I also cant install the driver. XP tells code 10 and win7 tells code 31. diderius6 has attached files to this post |
| #1637 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus "just curious, does the most recent version XP driver in post #1599 work? or code 10?" Code 10 ^^ Dietmar |
| #1638 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1455 I feel that it is time to remind about my util called "acpi patcher" ) it is dsdt/ssdt table manipulation tool before OS loading, even for winxp textmode setup |
| #1639 | diderius6 | ⇗ @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Yes, this is a nice tool. Please write a Tutorial, which can be used on other compis also. May be your modded DSDT can stay in registry of XP? For me it is now no problem just to edit DSDT and to flash it to Bios. But I also learned, that manipulating Bios is always a risk Dietmar PS: Have you updated your to do list for XP from page 12 here? USB on Intel chipsets is done . |
| #1640 | daniel_k | ⇗ @diderius6 Unfortunately I'm not familiar with those modules, you need to ask someone who is used to UEFI. In the mean time, I'm sharing my modded version of RSTe, which works just fine with consumer chipsets in AHCI and RAID modes. Being much newer than 11.2 (2012), this one is much more compatible with new chipsets. It's version 4.6.0.1085, which originally doesn't work because of missing imports. Seems fairly stable so far and nice performer. Supports SSD's immediate standby for proper shutdown operation, not supported by versions older than 3.5.1 (RSTe storport) and 11.2. The only issue it that HDDs spin down during Windows restart. Could you please also test it? It's 32-bit only, for now, and automatically installs storport.sys. |
| #1641 | infuscomus | ⇗ @daniel_k is this generic? or just newer chipsets? Zitat von ⇗ daniel_k im Beitrag ¶ #1640 concerning missing imports, would it be possible to fix imports for newer intel lan driver for 219-V for windows 7 to make it compatible with XP? |
| #1642 | daniel_k |
Zitat von ⇗ infuscomus im Beitrag ¶ #1641 Generic. Zitat
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| #1643 | diderius6 | ⇗ @daniel_k I test your driver RSTe_4.6.0.1085_MOD.rar on the asrock fatal1ty z370 gaming k6 board. It works:))! I noticed no strange behavior about harddisk spindown. I test harddisk WD 2TB ssd disk Samsung 860 nvme boot XP via disk Intel Optane. I noticed, that also the filter driver iastorF.sys is installed for all the devices above and starts. It is the Intel version of TRIM. With cristaldiskinfo I can see, that TRIM is supported but I do not know, how to test under XP, if TRIM works. I also noticed, that nvme boot of XP is still possible with the latest storport.sys driver version 5.2.3790.4485. Nice driver , generic for all Intel ahciDietmar PS: On harddisk, the speed is about the same as with the old ahci 1006 driver from Intel. On SSD your driver is about 4% faster than the old one. |
| #1644 | canonkong | ⇗ @daniel_k For AMD USB XHCI, I tested all usb drivers, only Etron usb driver can work very well. Maybe other driver need to find out the breakpoint and use nop to stop it. Like this: ⇗ https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/390651-Way-to-make-Intel-UHD-620-graphics-driver-to-works-in-windows-7-(no-crash) |
| #1645 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 have you made any progress on getting XP UEFI to work? |
| #1646 | diderius6 | ⇗ @infuscomus I read only a little about XP UEFI, but have not tried. First I have to do some ground base work, what is known and what not. An interesting message was, that the XP SP2 32 bit Media version from 2005 can be booted with the bootloader from Vista Dietmar |
| #1647 | infuscomus | ⇗ @diderius6 ⇗ @skullteria ⇗ @kukonosau I attempted to patch acpi.sys 5048 64 bit Since I did not have symbols, I made guesses based on similarity comparisons in the assembly. I don't know how well I did. Let me know if it works. infuscomus has attached files to this post |
| #1648 | Mov AX, 0xDEAD |
Zitat von ⇗ diderius6 im Beitrag ¶ #1643 same as for win7 - trimcheck to force generate trim command to drive i used in past TxBENCH (manual with GUI) and O&O Defrag in CLI mode (scheduled at booting time of winxp) |
| #1649 | kukonosau | Thanks. But "acpi.sys is corrupted" or BSOD. I don't compression archive SP2.CAB, I put file acpi.sy_ in folder AMD64. |
| #1650 | infuscomus | ⇗ @kukonosau I did not get "acpi.sys is corrupted" error make sure to replace acpi.sy_ in amd64 with new version grab a clean x64 iso here ⇗ https://the-eye.eu/public/MSDN/Windows%20XP/ |